No,

I would still respond to an existing forumite's post, if that person came out.

Perhaps such a person would even be prepared to clarify a few outstanding questions about the *****bwoy lifestyle like "Why unu no stap it?" "Why u caan fine a nice gal fi sekkle dong wid?" We could have a heated bebate and we might become better humans for it.

He/she might even become RBZ resident poof, even attending matches with you.

I would have to curb the anti-faggit jokes, though,if is going to cause offence. Having said that, I am actually thinking that I should stop making those silly comments. I don't know who I am dealing with at the other end of a post.

If an existing forumite were to suddenly come out, (the chances of this happening are 0%, in the current climate) it would seem hypocrytical to suddenly stop responding to his/her posts.

For all I know the existing forumites could be paid up hetrosexuals, but may be making other lifechoices which I would find repulsive. It would really seem to be pointless discriminating on the basis of somebody's lifechoice. What lifechoices would we begin with and which would we end with. I can think of a few lifechoices that would repulse me no end.

In fact there are scirntific studies which have confirmed that there are homosexual sheep!

Guess you better stop eating lamb!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/03/040309073256.htm

Oh and for the record, there are also documented cases of lesbian cows....no more burgers, or steaks for you!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/03/lesbian_cows/

truetrini, appears to have taken the legs from under your argument since it would appear that " sexual preference is biologically determined in animals, and possibly in humans," your case has not been made out. try again, minus the passion "respect" "strongly" and "against" are just expressions of your feelings and are never going to advance the anti-gay cause

Q what do you call a lesbian cow

answer

wait for it

A a lesbow

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kirkieb

truetrini, appears to have taken the legs from under your argument since it would appear that " sexual preference is biologically determined in animals, and possibly in humans," your case has not been made out. try again, minus the passion "respect" "strongly" and "against" are just expressions of your feelings and are never going to advance the anti-gay cause

Q what do you call a lesbian cow

answer

wait for it

A a lesbow

yardiemandela

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yu sure is not a bow cow?

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Originally posted by TheDread:
What kind of bongo cart question that? Rama, if the I gay just say so we'll still respect your opinon.

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Originally posted by rama:
Question to to all members, if you should find out that one of our members here on the forum is gay would you still respect or respond to that person's post. If you say NO state why and if you say YES state why. By the way is there anyone here that is Gay.

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Originally posted by Lionpaw:
Bun B*tty Man! I am a proud, homophobic heterosexual. I have a problem with f*gs because they are always flaunting it all about the place(not in Jamaica of course). STAY IN THE CLOSET!! You don't see us straight people having "STRAIGHT" parades. We don't have any "straight rights" activist groups. Gay people are trying to force there lifestyle upon us. MORE FYAH!STRAIGHT PRIDE!!!!

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Lionpaw, not only were your comments thoughtless, they were equally moronic and imbecilic: "You don't see us straight people having "STRAIGHT" parades."??!! Of course not jack@$$!!! Reason being heterosexuals are the majority. Historically speaking, how often has a majority, in any area of life, who are NOT discrimated against defended themself or celebrate that which makes them the majority granted it is not a significant event or turning point?!!

Wise up. You can be a "proud, homophobic heterosexual" all yuh want, but stop making dumb to comments to the effect of those I highlighted.

and as for my personal opinion, the homosexual lifestyle is one I wouldn't practice , but I also think many who indulge don't choose to do so [i.e. it's genetic]. unfortunately, prejudice minds, like lionpaw's, only serve to perpetuate the problems society face in dealing with unpopular issues.

Oh, i forgot pride go before a FALL....

Relax, cause i know where your hate was taught, and if you examine, the source of that hate lesson, you will see that you should keep you trap shut, cause your in violation of a Commandment...Remember the one that says something like LOVE YOUR BROTHER(Neighbor)....

I have found that it is so easy for some peeps to show acts of hate and than to show love and kindness..

No wonder the great HOMOPHOBIC JA culture is so rampant with act of hate(violence.

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Originally posted by Del Piero:
Lionpaw, not only were your comments thoughtless, they were equally moronic and imbecilic: "You don't see us straight people having "STRAIGHT" parades."??!! Of course not jack@$$!!! Reason being heterosexuals are the majority. Historically speaking, how often has a majority, in any area of life, who are NOT discrimated against defended themself or celebrate that which makes them the majority granted it is not a significant event or turning point?!!

Wise up. You can be a "proud, homophobic heterosexual" all yuh want, but stop making dumb to comments to the effect of those I highlighted.

and as for my personal opinion, the homosexual lifestyle is one I wouldn't practice , but I also think many who indulge don't choose to do so [i.e. it's genetic]. unfortunately, prejudice minds, like lionpaw's, only serve to perpetuate the problems society face in dealing with unpopular issues.
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Most interesting, so i ask a silly question....

People ironcially often site mosiac and old testament laws to justify their talion views, but ignore those of the Jesus and the New Testament.

Further, by calling homosexuals "b@++ybwoy, fagg@ts, lesbo etc.... it reduces the humanity of the person, or in this case, group, thus making it easier and more jusifiable to be hateful and aggressive toward those groups.

Soldiers do it in wars; Slaveowners and white America, in general, did it during slavery with names like "nigger"; Germans did it during the holocaust; torturers do it to those they torture. And as we all know, repetition reduces, if not eradicates, any initial anxiety or guilt.

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Originally posted by pHoQrY:
Most interesting, so i ask a silly question....

are you saying then, that the Klu Klux Klan should be allowed to roam the streets?

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Not a silly question at all; a very valid concern but no phoqry, I'm not saying that. The difference between the Klu Klux Klan and lionpaw is that lion, unlike the KKK, is a non-physical prejudice discriminator. Modern Laws prohibits prejudice attacks. I am a not "fan" of prejudice. the reality, though, is that people are going to have their prejudices, some insofar that it will be impossible to convert them. So, if someone wants to be a KKK member, they can do so all they want, just as Lion can be a proud homophobic all he wants, as long as they [and he] abides by the law and violates noone. Of course, I'm not suggesting we condone prejudicism as long as it doesn't manifest into violence, but I, for one, am not going to assume the responsibility for educating those who hold prejudices if it's going to become a burden of sorts. I would rather not see prejudices, and I will do my part in reducing prejudice attitudes as much as I can; but if people hold prejudices that I caan really bodda attempt to correct, dem can gwan as long as dem doan go roun' commiting crimes as motivated by their prejudice, and in general.

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Originally posted by Del Piero:

. . .People ironcially often site mosiac and old testament laws to justify their talion views, but ignore those of the Jesus and the New Testament.

. . .Soldiers do it in wars; Slaveowners and white America, in general, did it during slavery with names like "nigger"; Germans did it during the holocaust; torturers do it to those they torture. And as we all know, repetition reduces, if not eradicates, any initial anxiety or guilt.

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Originally posted by Del Piero:
Not a silly question at all; a very valid concern but no phoqry, I'm not saying that. The difference between the Klu Klux Klan and lionpaw is that lion, unlike the KKK, is a non-physical prejudice discriminator. Modern Laws prohibits prejudice attacks. I am a not "fan" of prejudice. the reality, though, is that people are going to have their prejudices, some insofar that it will be impossible to convert them. So, if someone wants to be a KKK member, they can do so all they want, just as Lion can be a proud homophobic all he wants, as long as they [and he] abides by the law and violates noone. Of course, I'm not suggesting we condone prejudicism as long as it doesn't manifest into violence, but I, for one, am not going to assume the responsibility for educating those who hold prejudices if it's going to become a burden of sorts. I would rather not see prejudices, and I will do my part in reducing prejudice attitudes as much as I can; but if people hold prejudices that I caan really bodda attempt to correct, dem can gwan as long as dem doan go roun' commiting crimes as motivated by their prejudice, and in general.

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i see what you saying. my opinion on homosexuality is simple...it not natural.
if it was then the male species would be able to give birth. not saying that sex is only for copulation, but that is the main reason for the organs...to induce birth.

The promotion of homosexuality, in my opinion, the promotion of any sexuality, is odd, considering that man cover their endowments.

So the fact that homosexuals find it appropriate to showcase their sexuality in the publics eye, is unnatural and odd, which undoubtedly leads to the outrage that is portrayed by the masses.

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Originally posted by rama:
Question to to all members, if you should find out that one of our members here on the forum is gay would you still respect or respond to that person's post. If you say NO state why and if you say YES state why. By the way is there anyone here that is Gay.

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A what kind of pHoQrY question that? Sound like smaddy a look wan man. I tell you bwoy, every where yu turn 'dem' inna yu face even when yu a try really hard to ignore 'dem'.

BadRas bring some gas oil & two tyre ... looks like we have some eradicating to do.

and as for my personal opinion, the homosexual lifestyle is one I wouldn't practice , but I also think many who indulge don't choose to do so [i.e. it's genetic]. unfortunately, prejudice minds, like lionpaw's, only serve to perpetuate the problems society face in dealing with unpopular issues.

Sonny! no follow what dem tell you about homosexuality being genetic ... it really is a choice. It is one of the lame alibi formulated to defend the practice. All of us have our uniqueness. Some of us have strengths in some areas and weaknesses in other areas but in the end we make the choice to execute in whatever direction we choose. It is the same thing with homosexuals, something may have gone awry in their growth and development that make them attracted to men BUT it is a choice to dip in stinking places. What is happening is the world seem to be aggressively overtaken by 'dem man deh' and so they advanced this theory. I guess a cleptomaniac could use this same reasoning. He finds himself with an unusual desire to thief, him caan understand it but him is always overwhelmed with the thought. If he should proceed with this unusual desire ... is it genetics or is he a damn thief who has chosen the lifestyle of a thief. I guess to balance the reasoning, you could also argue that there are some heterosexuals who have an in born inclination to spread dem seeds. Is this also a genetic malfunction or is it a man yielding to the wonderful flavor of saltfish? Del P I think there are many thoughts that come to a man's mind but the execution of that thought is in the hands of the man. I will sing aloud here Bom Bye Bye etc. but when a buck up the ram a don't have to put the tyres & gas oil pon him ... it is a choice.
get mi?

who a strike pose pan this forum

glock and tek in hand

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BadRas bring some gas oil & two tyre ... looks like we have some eradicating to do.

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So SA you cant do it alone you why do you need to get someone to help you?

Old people seh idle jackass falla cane trash go a pound

It is no wonder, no mystery, post a nonsense topic and di Halloweenian behaviour rises like cream to the top

Build the Forum Up dont deprecate it with genocidal chanting, sounding the bugle alerting the execution crew against A Weaker Vessel.

Seriously though, I man dun state mi stance pon dem topic ya, and it no change. But nowhere have I ever promoted the killing of Chi Chis

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Originally posted by Senior Analyst:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Del Piero:

and as for my personal opinion, the homosexual lifestyle is one I wouldn't practice , but I also think many who indulge don't choose to do so [i.e. it's genetic]. unfortunately, prejudice minds, like lionpaw's, only serve to perpetuate the problems society face in dealing with unpopular issues.

Sonny! no follow what dem tell you about homosexuality being genetic ... it really is a choice. It is one of the lame alibi formulated to defend the practice. All of us have our uniqueness. Some of us have strengths in some areas and weaknesses in other areas but in the end we make the choice to execute in whatever direction we choose. It is the same thing with homosexuals, something may have gone awry in their growth and development that make them attracted to men BUT it is a choice to dip in stinking places. What is happening is the world seem to be aggressively overtaken by 'dem man deh' and so they advanced this theory. I guess a cleptomaniac could use this same reasoning. He finds himself with an unusual desire to thief, him caan understand it but him is always overwhelmed with the thought. If he should proceed with this unusual desire ... is it genetics or is he a damn thief who has chosen the lifestyle of a thief. I guess to balance the reasoning, you could also argue that there are some heterosexuals who have an in born inclination to spread dem seeds. Is this also a genetic malfunction or is it a man yielding to the wonderful flavor of saltfish? Del P I think there are many thoughts that come to a man's mind but the execution of that thought is in the hands of the man. I will sing aloud here Bom Bye Bye etc. but when a buck up the ram a don't have to put the tyres & gas oil pon him ... it is a choice.
get mi?

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Senior, you know I have an immeasureable amount of respect and admiration for you, and I tend to agree with you most of the time; on this however, I cannot.

For the most part, these are things that normal heterosexuals do not practice.

It is not genetic for a man to look at a man's outlet for bodily waste and use it as a sex organ. How the hell is that genetic (God-given). Just as when heterosexulas perform oral and anal sex, IT IS A CHOICE, or even a perversion.

Are there some cases where a person is born with a DEFECT in his mental process and has sexual attractions to the same sex, probably. And it is as probably as rear as the occurances of mental retardation.

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Originally posted by Guidance:

So SA you cant do it alone you why do you need to get someone to help you?

Old people seh idle jackass falla cane trash go a pound

It is no wonder, no mystery, post a nonsense topic and di Halloweenian behaviour rises like cream to the top

Build the Forum Up dont deprecate it with genocidal chanting, sounding the bugle alerting the execution crew against A Weaker Vessel.

The call for blood around here is deafening
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Wi need someone fi lock down dem nonsense thread here when dem raise dem ugly head[/B]

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Senior to whom much is given – much is expected!
Calling for gas oil and tire to effect a cleansing is the stuff expected of simpler minds.
Don’t tell me you have fallen that far since you took that famous leap.
Then again the people who manned the Radio Stations in the Rwanda bloodbath were of the intelligentsia who probably never lifted a finger to strike anyone but the blood is on them for inciting mass killings with their daily talk shows.

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yu don't stay militant and keep up the pressure pon dem rubbish ... mam & man soon start put argument to you and you boy pickney.

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From the above you are saying you and yours have not been threatened by a rear activist.
You’re just taking a militant stance to ward off any advance!!!
Bwoy SA, you really sound threatened fi true.

Not sure, not sure, but this could be a case of Pre-Emptive Genocidal Preparedness Paranoia.

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Originally posted by Kosa:
i thought that only in eastern Europe people don't like homosexual.... but Yu are Jamaicans! You ideolgy tells Yu to treat everyone the same, doesnt it?

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IN an 81-page report published yesterday, the New York-based Human Rights Watch ripped into Jamaica for its treatment of its homosexuals and called for sweeping legal reform, and even constitutional changes, to address the problem.

One significant downside from Jamaica's homophobia, Human Rights Watch claimed, was its prevention of a broad assault on HIV/AIDS, which is estimated to affect 1.5 per cent of the population or 22,000 people, the third highest in the Caribbean after Haiti and Dominican Republic.

Among the group's suggestions are that the government:

. repeal laws against buggery;

. that the anti-discrimination clause in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the Jamaican Constitution be amended to include 'sexual orientation and gender identity' and 'sex'; and

. that government opens itself up to international scrutiny by ratifying conventions against torture.

In explaining how homophobic tendencies in Jamaica impacted negatively on the treatment of people with HIV/AIDS, Human Rights Watch said Jamaicans still believe that AIDS is largely a homosexual disease although official statistics indicate that 68 per cent of the cases here are transmitted between heterosexual partners and only 5.4 per cent are cases of 'men having sex with men' (and bisexuals combined).

Consequently, persons with HIV/AIDS continue to be stigmatised as '*****men' - a derogatory Jamaican term for male homosexuals - and even the intervention groups working with HIV/AIDS cases are stigmatised and even threatened with violence, the report claimed.

The report is titled 'Hated to Death', with the sub-title 'Homophobia, Violence and Jamaica's HIV/AIDS Epidemic'.
It is likely to stir a new round of debate on the treatment of homosexuals in Jamaica and focus more attention on the island by international gay-rights groups that have been leading an international campaign against dancehall artistes, whose music they claim promote violence against gays.

But the Human Rights Watch report hits not only at popular artistes, but sharply attacked the Jamaican government's positions on the issue as anti-progressive, specifically naming Prime Minister P J Patterson and health minister John Junor for refusing to endorse recommendations by their own technocrats to repeal anti-gay laws.

The report does give some credit to the health ministry for its interventions in dealing with the HIV/AIDS problem, but charged that "other parts of Jamaica's Government undermine these important efforts by condoning or committing serious human rights abuses".

Consequently, it said, abuses against MSS occur in "a climate of impunity fostered by Jamaica's sodomy laws and are promoted at the highest levels of government".

The report also claimed that the police were often the instigators of beatings, and verbal abuse of the AIDS-afflicted, citing a case in Montego Bay on June 18 this year when a suspected gay man was 'chopped, stabbed and stoned to death', ostensibly at the instigation of the police who started the process by beating the man with batons.

Whereas gay-rights lobbyists such as OutRage! have targeted specific interest groups for their attacks, Human Rights Watch directly labelled the Patterson administration as a facilitator of abuse and told the government to act 'forcefully and quickly' to change course.

In fact, the group even urged ministers to use their platforms and contacts with the media to promote acceptance of the gay community.

everybody sing...BOOM BYE BYE INA...