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triniman Member Posts: 1125 From: TNT Registered: Feb 2001	posted 10-21-2005 05:19 PM Taken from the soca warrior site Anyone listened to the Press Conference with Jack Warner Ť on: Today at 03:06:23 PM ť -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Basically he confirmed that Bahrain players are getting a $mill and a Benz. That they asked Guatemala to play them and have a live in camp and use their facilties, the Guat federation in solidarity with their concacaf neighbours T&T, refused the offer, the Jamaicans on the other hand grasped at the offer and are being paid $1 Million to use their facilities US $ that is, and the'll play them also, the Ja federation has also suspended all Ja football to give the best that they can offer. Also, Dwight called Warner and told him that for him money is not an issue, he just wants to be in the WC but for some players in the squad $$ is still an issue, he asked Warner if he can double their match fees, Warner simply replied 'Done'. Jack also said that Addidas is in the country and that Puma will be in next week re: sponsorship deals for the next 4 years. He as usual asked for corporate T&T and the Gov't to help the national effort. IP: Logged
triniman Member Posts: 1125 From: TNT Registered: Feb 2001	posted 10-21-2005 05:21 PM I hope jamaica rest some blade on them players bruk them up IP: Logged
pressafoot Member Posts: 562 From: NYC, NY, USA Registered: Jan 2003	posted 10-21-2005 08:15 PM With better facilities strategically situated we just might get some offer$ from clubs for pre-season etc. IP: Logged
MikeU Member Posts: 1763 From: New York City; Anchorage, Alaska Registered: May 2000	posted 10-21-2005 08:35 PM quote: Originally posted by triniman: Taken from the soca warrior site Anyone listened to the Press Conference with Jack Warner Ť on: Today at 03:06:23 PM ť I don't think Jamaica should accept Bahrain's offer in solidarity with their Caribbean brethens. The Bahrains want to get as comfortable as possible but should not be at the expense of anyone in the region. Where is the football spirit? Guatemala is showing it can Jamaica? IP: Logged
truetrini Moderator Posts: 3671 From: Fredericksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2001	posted 10-21-2005 09:45 PM Yeah what de hell.......? Dat sure to cause more bad blood between the two nations. IP: Logged
truetrini Moderator Posts: 3671 From: Fredericksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2001	posted 10-21-2005 11:44 PM CONCACAF president Jack Warner has called it a sad day for Caribbean football because of a decision by Jamaica to host a one-week camp for Bahrain, the team which is vying with Trinidad and Tobago for a place in next year's World Cup. Warner said that while Guatemala had turned down a similar offer in solidarity with their CONCACAF opponents, Caribbean neighbours Jamaica had gone as far as to suspend their local league, so that the best Jamaican footballers could play a game with Bahrain, who face T&T on November 12 and 16 in a home and away play-off. Warner's information is that the Middle East country had piled heaps of money before the struggling Jamaican Football Federation, which is desperate for cash. "It's a sad day for Caribbean football and Caribbean unity," said Warner yesterday at a Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) press conference at the Hasely Crawford Stadium. "Even if they (Bahrain) had paid one million for that facility, it should not have been enough." Warner said he had been contacted by Crenston Boxhill, president of the Jamaica Football Federation (JFF), who enquired whether Warner had a a problem with Jamaica playing a game with Bahrain on November 2. Yesterday, Warner told the media he had no objection to the initial request, since it gave Trinidad and Tobago's coach Leo Beenhakker the chance to see the Bahrain team in action. However, Warner is now peeved that Boxhill has since also agreed to facilitate Bahrain for an eight-day camp and given the Middle East contenders the best opportunity to beat Trinidad and Tobago. Guatemala, who lost out to Trinidad and Tobago in the battle for CONCACAF's fourth World Cup qualifying spot, had also been approached by Bahrain, who felt they might be able to help them adjust to Trinidad and Tobago's style. Bahrain were seeking two warm-up matches on October 26 and 27, but Warner said Guatemala informed him that, in solidarity with Trinidad and Tobago, they would not play the games. Warner said he is unwilling to ask Boxhill to reconsider the Jamaicans' course of action, but hinted at repercussions by stating there were other ways of dealing with the matter. The FIFA vice-president said Bahrain had suspended their own local league and had also gotten Qatar to release seven of their professionals so that they could have specialised training before the play-offs with Trinidad and Tobago. He said because 90 per cent of Trinidad and Tobago's national squad play abroad, they are in the unfortunate position of having to stick to FIFA statutes and will only have their players released five days before the qualifying matches. However, Warner said he will petition FIFA in Zurich on Monday to have yellow cards against players of both teams lifted. IP: Logged
pelepapa Member Posts: 857 From: Registered: Jul 2003	posted 10-22-2005 01:07 AM quote: Originally posted by truetrini: However, Warner said he will petition FIFA in Zurich on Monday to have yellow cards against players of both teams lifted. I guess this benefits TnT. Everybody ah try cut deals all over the place. IP: Logged
pelepapa Member Posts: 857 From: Registered: Jul 2003	posted 10-22-2005 02:45 AM quote: Originally posted by truetrini: Yeah what de hell.......? Dat sure to cause more bad blood between the two nations. More bad blood? Just a few days ago in between all the congratulations an ite was chanted down and flagged for dearing to mention that such feelings existed between the nations...now TT is warning us that more of what didn't exist can be expected. IP: Logged
Jayjj Member Posts: 119 From: england Registered: May 2002	posted 10-22-2005 06:44 AM whats the big deal? JFA gets $1M just to host them and T&T gets to watch them, cannt see nothing wrong with that. people in the caribbean should remember football is a business. Besides i know for sure T&T will wop them home and away after we at yard bruk dem up den triniman and the rest of his posse we thank us. lol IP: Logged
brush Member Posts: 1437 From: UNIVERSTY PLACE, WA, USA Registered: Aug 2000	posted 10-22-2005 07:15 AM I personally don't see anything wrong with hosting or playing them. I do believe Bahrain playing in Jamaica can benefit T&T. Still when its all done and over with the only game that will matter is the game between T&T and Bahrain. JacK Warner should worry less about where Bahrain is staying and concentrate on ensuring that the T&T players are given every opportunity to win the game. T&T qualification will not be dependent on how much hospitality the Jamaican people and/or football federation extend to the Bahrainians. Common decency requires that we give the Bahrainians a tough , fair, and competitive game. A game that will allow them to properly evaluate their players. But more importantly for T&T, a game that will allow T&T to see the shortcomings in the Bahrainian team. Take the money and run Mr. Boxhill. Ensure that we extend our famous Jamaican hospitality to our visitors/guests. For it is not your's or Jamaica's responsibility to qualify the Soca Warriors. [This message has been edited by brush (edited 10-22-2005).] IP: Logged
reddevil Member Posts: 2902 From: Guatemala City, Guatemala Registered: Feb 2001	posted 10-22-2005 09:43 AM quote: Warner said he is unwilling to ask Boxhill to reconsider the Jamaicans' course of action, but hinted at repercussions by stating there were other ways of dealing with the matter. I´m curious...have we done anything illegal?Can Warner really dictate to Jamaica who we can play in a friendly? I´m tired of it is he T&T president or CONCACAF president? CONCACAF may need someone from outside the region if his involvement in T&T football continues at this level that allows him to use his CONCACAF authority to punish a country solely based upon hte best interests of T&T. On the Guatemalan front, I find the solidarity thing hard to believe. Could it be that it might be too painful to play Bahrain? If Guate beats them it would make the failure that much harder to deal with. I can´t see the players getting their spirits up for a game especially against Bahrain. [This message has been edited by reddevil (edited 10-22-2005).] IP: Logged
Princess Moderator Posts: 5579 From: Miami, FL Registered: Aug 2001	posted 10-22-2005 10:02 AM Jack "di Ripper" Warner President, T&T Football Federation President, CONCACAF President, CFU* Vice President, FIFA Also owns half a T&T and I believe has shares or owns Sports Marketing company that has ownership of CONCACAF TV rights... *not 100% certain... U figure it out... IP: Logged
Big Mountain Member Posts: 1206 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Mar 2001	posted 10-22-2005 10:28 AM quote: Originally posted by reddevil: I´m curious...have we done anything illegal?Can Warner really dictate to Jamaica who we can play in a friendly? I´m tired of it is he T&T president or CONCACAF president? CONCACAF may need someone from outside the region if his involvement in T&T football continues at this level that allows him to use his CONCACAF authority to punish a country solely based upon hte best interests of T&T. On the Guatemalan front, I find the solidarity thing hard to believe. Could it be that it might be too painful to play Bahrain? If Guate beats them it would make the failure that much harder to deal with. I can´t see the players getting their spirits up for a game especially against Bahrain. [This message has been edited by reddevil (edited 10-22-2005).] I won't buy the Guatemalan solidarity crap either. When since our Central American opponents are looking out for us? If this is a new solidarity agreement, then kudos to a stronger cohesive Concacaf. This is not the first time when there are friendlies against teams of similar talent and style to prepare another team. We do that on a regular basis even here in Concacaf eg. playing Guatemala to prepare for Costa Rica, etc. I am not sure if Warner would have felt better if Mexico or the USA had accepted them. I am sure the USA or Mexico would not refuse on any solidarity basis but of other factors soley related to their best interest. Bad blood? [This message has been edited by Big Mountain (edited 10-22-2005).] IP: Logged
truetrini Moderator Posts: 3671 From: Fredericksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2001	posted 10-22-2005 10:31 AM Bad blood because you are giving them the game...more bad blood beacuse you are hosting them for 8 days and even suspending your PFL to gice them the best preparation! That is ridiculous! But!!!! Jack WARNER has been known to say one thing and the truth is far removed! I am sure he and his buddy Burrell may be up to something too! [This message has been edited by truetrini (edited 10-22-2005).] IP: Logged
Big Mountain Member Posts: 1206 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Mar 2001	posted 10-22-2005 10:58 AM quote: Originally posted by truetrini: Bad blood because you are giving them the game...more bad blood beacuse you are hosting them for 8 days and even suspending your PFL to gice them the best preparation! [b]That is ridiculous![/B] If the JFF went as far as suspending the NPL, then that's a little over the top. I would love to hear the JFF reasons for this move. However, the game and duration of their stay to me is normal as long as there is no additional or intended aid to assist them to defeat T&T. IP: Logged
Jagga Moderator Posts: 1724 From: Registered: Jun 99	posted 10-22-2005 11:15 AM I dont see any problem. Actually it is a blessing in disguise. Just allow Warner to plant a spy for the full eight days thus giving T&T a chance to study Bahrain fully. What better way to help T$T than to put them in the camp of Bahrain for a full 8 days. Everone benefits. Bahrain get to play a regional team. T&T get a chance to study them playbook Jamaica get some money JFF shows strategic leadership IP: Logged
Princess Moderator Posts: 5579 From: Miami, FL Registered: Aug 2001	posted 10-22-2005 12:22 PM So far we know this much: 1) Bahrain and T&T fighting for a WC2006 spot 2) BFF would like to hold camp in Jamaica for a week 3) BFF would like to play Jamaica as a warm-up 4) BFF is offering a $weet incentive 5) JFF stands to make some money 6) Burrell stands to make no money 7) Jack always makes money 8) JFF cancels NPL games 9) Fans don't know why 10) No official word yet from JFF 11) Some Socawarrior fanz feeling slighted 12) Some Socawarrior fanz want Boyz to beat Bahrain but don't want them to show them hospitality for the week prior 13) Some RBZ fanz just glad the JFF will finally be able to clear ALL debts including Captain's loan 14) I just want to know if I should book ticket to Bahrain, T&T, Jamaica or Germany! p.s. Jagga, not enuff time for T&T to hold camp, games are Nov.12 and Nov. 16th... IP: Logged
cruyff14 Member Posts: 3141 From: Mandeville Registered: Jul 2000	posted 10-22-2005 12:40 PM . . .anybody who believes Guatemala turned the match down through solidarity with their Concacaf colleagues is a bit naive . I don't see too much of a problem with it myself. And I think we must be careful to take Mr. Warner's 'outrage' with a grain of salt. IP: Logged
bajafrica Member Posts: 84 From: Registered: Oct 2002	posted 10-22-2005 01:14 PM quote: Originally posted by Princess: Jack "di Ripper" Warner President, T&T Football Federation President, CONCACAF President, CFU* Vice President, FIFA Also owns half a T&T and I believe has shares or owns Sports Marketing company that has ownership of CONCACAF TV rights... not 100% certain... U figure it out...* How does Warner get away with this? Heres a man who says and does most outrageous things without fear of sanction. Remember he said cricket days are numbered. The man uses his FIFA power to push TnT solely. Any benefits CFU countries receive are coincedental. Of course Warners crap is tolerated by USA,Mex and the Central Americans because despite his cunning and the unintelligble gibberish he speaks he really dont mess with them nations. Check out that he only uses power play tactics on the islands and the lesser broke ass Central American countries. It really is time for Warner to take his exit. One of his long standing dreams on verge of coming true namely TnT at World Cup. The conflict of interests in this loudmouth show off many functions is hard to believe. And serious people allow him to get away with it. How does he do it? IP: Logged
MikeU Member Posts: 1763 From: New York City; Anchorage, Alaska Registered: May 2000	posted 10-22-2005 03:36 PM Don't underestimate CONCACAF unity. We play and batter one another for WC spots and the Gold Cup but when attacked and maligned from outside (as frequently is the case), CONCACAF members tend to stick up for one another, as they should. To be frank, if T&T qualify and it, along with Mexico, Costa Rica, and USA has stellar World Cups, don't be surprised if CONCACAF campaigns and is given four permanent WC berths or maybe a fifth? This will definitely benefit Jamaica for 2010 and beyond. Well I am outnumbered in this one. I guess if Boxhill, who is coming under increased pressure, turn down the Bahraini offer, then people will say he threw away a great opportunity to help lessen the JFF financial problems. No win situation for Boxhill. IP: Logged
truetrini Moderator Posts: 3671 From: Fredericksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2001	posted 10-22-2005 04:08 PM Suspending the League in Jamaica is traitor ting! Dat is offsides big time! I cyar swallow dat one! I could care less about the Bahrain vs Jamaica game....additional help is tantamount to disunity and saboutage! STILL, IS jACK wARNER WE TALKING ABOUT! IP: Logged
shaggybear Member Posts: 5393 From: Miami, FL, USA. Registered: Feb 2001	posted 10-22-2005 04:33 PM Foolishness. Take the money and the game. We damn sure need both. I don't see TT delivering no cash for a warm up friendly...and I still waiting for the $35,000 that Warner TIEF us out after the Boyz dust out TT 4-2 5 years ago...bout hin nah pay wi cause wi send a understrength team. Go jump in a lake! Where was Burrell during that... Brotherhood my boxcover. IP: Logged
Jayjj Member Posts: 119 From: england Registered: May 2002	posted 10-22-2005 04:54 PM shaggybear good point, i all forget about that, i say take the money, think that works out to aroung $30m ja, for eight days, thats good business i say. Unnuh come now REPEAT AFTER ME, FOOTBALL IS A BUSINESS!!!!! IP: Logged
triniman Member Posts: 1125 From: TNT Registered: Feb 2001	posted 10-22-2005 04:56 PM truetrini remeber the net ball tournament in trinidad when they boo us IP: Logged
Tripeous Member Posts: 1874 From: Reston, VA. Registered: Jun 2001	posted 10-22-2005 05:33 PM Let me see now.... Playing the game against Bahrain = US$1m in the JFF Kitty. Don't play the game = $0 in the JFF Kitty Hosting the Bahrain team = Price.... IP: Logged
Princess Moderator Posts: 5579 From: Miami, FL Registered: Aug 2001	posted 10-22-2005 10:26 PM T, nice one... Is it rude to ask BFF for $2M now dat we unda pressha? A mean, it going to cost us nuff if we get fined by di Ripper and di Baker! IP: Logged
panjam Member Posts: 980 From: New Westminster, B.C., Canada Registered: Jul 2000	posted 10-22-2005 10:29 PM This is my point. If you had a friend and he decided to tell an enemy of yours your business at a price would you be happy? Say dis money your friend would get would help him by a house that he wants, but what he will tell your enemy may cost you your house. How would you feel? Don't give me no foolishness that TnT is not a friend. Didn't they give us much needed match preparation when we qualified for world cup in 1998? Didn't they celebrate with us then? It is a sad day when Guatemala show more solidarity to TnT than us. Let me ask this hypothetical question. Say Jamaica was still in the qualification round. Our final match is against TnT. TnT has no chance of qualifying for WC 2006. A win would put Jamaica through to WC 2006 in Germany. A tie or a lost would put Guatemala through. Do you think TNT would throw the game to Jamaica? Be honest with your thoughts and feelings about this. IP: Logged
Hamilton Israel Member Posts: 1356 From: Miami, FL. Registered: Mar 2001	posted 10-23-2005 01:11 AM quote: Originally posted by truetrini: Suspending the League in Jamaica is traitor ting! Dat is offsides big time! I cyar swallow dat one! I could care less about the Bahrain vs Jamaica game....additional help is tantamount to disunity and saboutage! STILL, IS jACK wARNER WE TALKING ABOUT! Bwoy TT this one is hard fi swallow fi real.... I wonder what the fall out will be if there is one? JFF got caught between a rock and a hard place in their very short supply cash-flow. Money tip the scale over principle in this one. I do not think that within concacaf Boxhill will recover from this one; especially since he did not fully disclose to Warner what the deal was...... He should have least said to Warner that it was strictly a business decision, and have nothing to do with trying to turn over TT's world cup boat......... Boxhill should have weighed this decision greatly and involve other concacaf executives about their thinking on the matter......... Should I pay the bills or should I hold to principle? Boxhill.... You all decide in Boxhill shoe....... IP: Logged
pHoQrY Member Posts: 651 From: Jamaica Registered: Jul 2000	posted 10-23-2005 09:01 AM I applaud boxhill for this decision. He has earned the JFF 60 Mil for eight days and practice for the reggae boyz. TTF need to put up or shut up, either them want the tapes of the practices and the game or they dont, as a matter of fact, wi should put a price pan di tapes and close the bahrainian training ground. Sad day in the caribbean, treachery...UTTER RUBBISH. all those talking bout treachery are only acting as spin doctors just in case TT get mash up by Bahrain. Unuh caan use unuh bredda as an excuse for unuh short comings. Talk bout friend a sell out...ever heard the saying, keep your friends close and your enemies closer? Dis arrangement is so beneficial to Jamaica and TT it not funny. Yet all our frenz can say is wi sell out? Yu si quashie have him fren wah live a di next road ina di hood, quashie and shotta a war. Shotta link quashie fren and mek him know seh him waan come kick back a him yard likkle bit, cause him haffi deal wid a ting. Quashie fren seh, send on a money and nuh problem. Shotta seh yeah man...no problem man...yu dun know. Quashie fren tell Quashie...is quashie fren a sell out fi collect a money and harbor di man, or is Quashie a eediat if im dont tek advantage of his enemy being in close proximity? IP: Logged
reddevil Member Posts: 2902 From: Guatemala City, Guatemala Registered: Feb 2001	posted 10-23-2005 10:07 AM 1. If nobody plays Bahrain, how does T&T scout them? 2. Will it be easier to scout Bahrain if they are close like say in...Jamaica? 3. I still don´t hear Jack saying that he will beat Bahrain´s offer. 4. On what grounds can Jamaica be fined...I´m really curious about that one 5. Solidarity is not in play in this case...I know many Guatemalans who are very sour with T&T and Warner right now 6. I also know many who can recount Jamaica´s 98 World Cup passage as though they were Jamaicans despite us knocking out El Salvador IP: Logged
MikeU Member Posts: 1763 From: New York City; Anchorage, Alaska Registered: May 2000	posted 10-23-2005 10:32 AM The Guatemalan football officials must be in solidarity with the Trinis if they can reject one million dollars. I am sure Guatemalan football can use this money. There is a newspaper report from Jamaica today saying Boxhill spoke to the Trinis about hosting and playing Bahrain and the Trinis "had no problem with it." Boxhill said nothing is finalized but is seriously considering the Bahraini offer. Yet, Warner suggested he did not like Jamaica's move in another newspaper story. I believe scouting is a non-issue. T&T can receive a lot of info on Bahrain outside the Caribbean without the one game played in Jamaica. I also think this issue goes beyond football. This shows richer countries can still influence the actions of poorer countries with their wallets. Neocolonialism alive and well. IP: Logged
brush Member Posts: 1437 From: UNIVERSTY PLACE, WA, USA Registered: Aug 2000	posted 10-23-2005 11:11 AM I cannot believe that people are turning this "proposed" game into such a big deal. What the hell does this have to do with Horace Burrell? I see ites linking his name with the story. Are they suggesting that Captain Burrell is the one fanning the flames? Mr. Boxhill should grab his jewels and tell Jack Warner and anyone else who has a problem with us earning an honest dollar and valuable match practice to go @#$& themselves. IP: Logged
palos Member Posts: 714 From: Registered: Feb 2002	posted 10-23-2005 11:37 AM It has nothing to do with Jamaica playing Bahrain. All de talk about T&T scouting Bahrain in Jamaica is moot because T&T already had a scout in Uzbhekistan AND Bahrain in their playoff matches. When Boxhill informed Jack about playing Bahrain Jack had no problems and why should he? A practice game is just that...and yes....T&T could have scouted Bahrain AGAIN...but the najor scouting was already done, video tapes secured and strategies in the planning stage. However...the 8 day camp and suspension of the domesic League IS a different matter. That is the bone of contention here and to me, that is a valid area of concern for T&T. Neither T&T NOR Jack Warner or anyone else for that matter can tell Jamaica what to do when it comes to their football. But facilitating the Bahraini's to such an extent is guaranteed to raise questions. At the end of the day, T&T has to do what it needs to do. We cannot rely on any "outside" help. But it is something we won't forget. If this identical issue had happened in most other countries except for a Caribbean country within CONCACAF, it would have been met with a shrug. The fact that it is Jamaica, given our rivalry and fellow Caribbean nation, this action (not the game, but the 8 day camp & suspension of the doemstic League) particularly stings. IP: Logged
haitiball Member Posts: 787 From: Lynn, MA, USA Registered: Dec 2004	posted 10-23-2005 11:58 AM The money is $weet. But, if we look at the bigger picture, Jamaica benefits more from TnT's regional loan and emergency assistance programs. I think Ja is currently negotiating a natural gas pipeline with TnT which will definitely inject much more than $1 M/year in Ja's economy. Any bad blood between the nations may be detrimental to Jamaica. However, I don't think it's appropriate for the top boss of the confed to make this kind of comments. I understand the guy is a trini, but he shouldn't threaten Ja for taking the decision to help a 'foreign team'. If in the next WCQ, Ja's campaign starts with games against Haiti, Cuba, or a C. American team, while TnT gets easy rides by playing Bahamas, Puerto Rico, USVI, and the likes, people will view that as a punishment for Jamaica's decision. Regarding the solidarity discussion, we need to remember that some caribbean teams are well-known in C. America. TnT, for example, shares a long soccer history with those nations. If more than one nation were allowed to represent the region in the past, TnT would had been to the WC at least two times as they finished second and third several times in the past WCQ. Thus, don't be so prompt to call the Guatemalans liars. [This message has been edited by haitiball (edited 10-23-2005).] IP: Logged
Karl Member Posts: 1373 From: New York, USA Registered: Apr 2001	posted 10-23-2005 01:17 PM I see this as Trinidad and Tobago being doubtful of their abilities to do the deed on the field and is looking for a reason just in case they flop I bet any money that if T&T wins, Warner and T&T would spin this a totally different direction...likely crediting JA for the in-person scouting and the wear and tear the Caribbean weather inflicts. Would it be an issue if T&T were actually in the WC and JA was playing a team that would be a T&T first round group opponent? I think not. Cause all that matters is just getting there (WC) as far as T&T is concerned.... PS: We need to get over these petty behaviors. Cause JACK WARNER would not be knocking the USA if the had accepted this deal...which is being looked at as purely a money deal. IP: Logged
firelynx Member Posts: 254 From: US South Registered: Feb 2001	posted 10-23-2005 02:14 PM We boxing ourselves in with that type of thinking. Many teams play others matching their opponent style of play and try to prepare in conditions similar to that which they will be playing in, without the host been labeled as traitors and disloyal. It is only because Jack Warner is catering to small minded people why this is able to be taken out of context. Boxhill did the right thing, he was courteous to Trinidad. Sometimes you can not satisfy some people no matter how much you try and should not waste your time trying in some instances. Where was the Caribbean unity when Jack was directing the majority of football funds to Trinidad and building an empire instead of distributing it more fairly to the other much more needy Caribbean football federations? Mr. Boxhill don't have anything to apologize over I am surprise he is taking this long to cement the contract. Mr Boxill,Warner is not your friend. Trinidad is not your friend. Do your best for the Jamaican Federation. Jack Warner and Trinidad are only out for themselves and are trying to use you as a scapegoat for when they fail. Intelligent people will know that is not the case. How you fi have your destiny in your own hand and yet you worrying about a little federation plans to play a practise game against your opponent wid a local base squad who are liable to hurt one of your opponent players with some over aggressiveness in a country wid so many distractions. You nuh see how Warner treated you when you first took office. Don't believe he has Jamaica's or your interest at heart. Sign your contract. If need be shutdown the league so as to provide the best players to fulfill your contract and provide a competive game for your opponent. Hurry up and sign the contract before the other team realize that they are making a big mistake. Do whatever you have to do cause at the end of it you don't want to wonder what if i had done it my way. IP: Logged
laari Member Posts: 117 From: canada Registered: Jul 2000	posted 10-23-2005 03:11 PM Mr Boxhill, please remember that Jack is not your best friend in footballl. Do you rememebr your last meeting about the advertisings in regards to the WC/06? Do you remember when Jamaica have a game in Trinidad and suppose to be paid and never received the money because of some trickery by the Jack. Friends of Jamaica football, if we have enough support from Concacf in the run up to the WC/06 like Trinidad we would have made it. My humble opinion to the JFF is simple. Take the $60,000000 JA. and feel good about it. They (T&T) should be glad, because Jamaica is doing them a favour by giving the Bahrians a practice match that I expect will be competitive and showing up any deficiencies in the team. What i expect T&T should be doing in the mean time is to get as much other Caribbean coaches in their camp to assist in whatever way possible. The Bahrain team could have gone to the U.S. to camp like in Florida and play Cuba or Panama. Would Jack have any chat about sell out? Boxland! tek the money and give each NPL team a change outa it. Peace. IP: Logged
binza Member Posts: 181 From: Registered: May 2001	posted 10-23-2005 03:41 PM I say take the money and run, this is definitely a case where I would "sell out to the man." IP: Logged
kirkieb Member Posts: 109 From: Harford, Connecticut, USA Registered: Sep 2004	posted 10-23-2005 04:15 PM Well.. right now, JFF need to eat a food. We will not be playing in the world Cup to earn some much needed capital. Therefore, this oppertunity to make some money is a damn good thing. I say JFF should double the price on Bahrain and even make some more money off them head. Then kill them with football.. and redeem themselves from that 5-0 loss to the Kangaroos. Football is a business! IP: Logged
reddevil Member Posts: 2902 From: Guatemala City, Guatemala Registered: Feb 2001	posted 10-23-2005 05:30 PM Making US$1 million in a week is a not somethign the JFF does very often is it? Is Warner offering us that plus the spinoff economic benefits such as tourism promotion in an area with dollars that Jamaica tends not to market to? They will not only spend that for this game but also they will spend on other things while they are in Jamaica, food, overseas calls etc. If Warner is willing to pay us all that then we should consider not dealing with Bahrain, otherwise it´s a no brainer. I know the league thing seems weird, but if it´s part of the contract and gives our locals a chance to get a look from their local league can you really wrong us? So that´s more money Captain Jack has to come up with, will he do it? I don´t think so. Jamaica has to look out for Jamaican football and other industries related to it plain and simple. How come he didn´t complain when we played a friendly with Guatemala with 2 matches left in the hex? [This message has been edited by reddevil (edited 10-23-2005).] IP: Logged

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