Warner use his own money and the People's money to build stadia in T&T..De T&T Government were major sponsors of the stadia in T&T..dat is why dey named after OUR sporting heroes!

Man must make sure dey talk facts.

I am NOT a Jack fan..by any means but man jes talking from emotions.

Suspending yuh league fuh days to help Bahrain is traitor ting.

ANyway me eh care either way!

Dat includes making Burell big man in CFU.

Burell is ah Jamaican and did not do enough in his tenure,,dat is NOT Jack's fault.

Jack is ah trini an he spend he money in T&T...Burell did not as yuh scrambling to repay him now ent?

T&T eh have to repay Jack ah penny!

Yuh don't remember how
Warner captured every contract on that project.

The amount of money him mek off a dat it is no wonder he is able to finance the whole of Trinidad's football. Stop been naive. Warner is the government for Trinidadian football.

It is strange that him pay all the expenses and then the government have to reimburse him. Mi see wey the government pay 100 and odd thousand dollars for the return flight from some trip and Warner ah talk bout him spent close to a million dollar getting the team there and should be reimbursed for that amount. Highway robbery if you ask me.

Warner is full of crap fi come call Jamaica and Jamaicans disloyal and ah try incite others against us.

But you know I think he is still vex because what happened to his good friend who operates like he does, so he tries to lash out against the people who he think was responsible instead of act like a real leader.

Yuh can try and compare Warner to Burrell on a football level only when Trinidad reaches the World Cup level. Yuh no see Warner get all his football cues from what Burrell has done.

If Barrell was the president of Concacaf Jamaica would be in every World Cup.

Warner is big idiot for trying to scapegoat Jamaica.

Man yuh ah joke.

Warner run tings in FIFA MAfia!

The T&T governmnet..this one is at odds with Warner.

The last Governement built those stadia!

Me eh saying corruption eh pass, but it was no FIFA money.

How is FIFA money if Jack get contracts to build dem with T&T money?

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Originally posted by Guidance:
Boxhill for Minister of Tourism what PJ waiting for

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Originally posted by redsnake:
Chu Wud, Missa Guidance. TT will be ok. Ja naw watch nuh face. Naw pass up da $1mil deh. If an eight day training camp and one match with RBZ local talent is gonna stop TT from reaching Germany-- then that only means they dont deserve to be there. Since when TT a look out fi Jamaica?

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T&T has always looked out for Jamaica!

From the 1970's to Hurricane Gilbert and beyond.

I don't see where TnT stand to loose in this issue. This was a business decision and is being treated as such by the JFF.

How many times does these opportunites present themselves?

Can you imagine what would be happening on this forum if the shoes were flipped ?

I understand the need for money but it seem deh man dem would sell dem soul .

A just pure F...ry dat !!!

I'm betting Bahrain asked everybody in South, Central and North America before they came to us.

I bet it shocked even them when we took the offer

As much as we are at rivalry with Trinidad I'm not sure we have a closer relationship with another nation.

I tell you this would be the worst thing we did since Bad mind dunce head Bustamante mashup federation.

Again, as I perceive it, the problem lies with the extended stay and the suspension of the league.

If those matters are resolved there is no problem.

A one week camp in Jamaica should not make Bahrain world beaters.

TT need to calm down and start trying to establish some kind of camp in the Middle East for the return leg.

What's up with these threats from Jack? Who the hell does he thinks he is? Are we breaking any FIFA rules? Jack needs to go 'hold him corners' and keep is ass quiet.

It is a purely financial decision which anybody with sense would accept. Since when we and Trinidad are 'buddy-buddy'.
Do u remember when they purposely cause us to not gain entry into the Gold Cup by sending weak team to play in their final Caribbean Cup match. Both TT and Jamaica were the strongest team in the Caribbean but they did not grant us any favour so that we could play in the Gold Cup that year.

Yes, we Support their world cup campaign but we need to make some money too. Jack and him friends keep laughing at us and showing off with their new stadiums.

I hope Boxhill don't get nervous and change his mind because I would be the first one to start start the call for his resignation.

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Originally posted by Double B:
I can't see what the "noise" is all about.
It was a "no brainer" decision for the JFF. In fact, I would welcome them and anybody else to setup camp in Jamaica and stay as long as they want as long as we are getting paid.

TT need to calm down and start trying to establish some kind of camp in the Middle East for the return leg.

What's up with these threats from Jack? Who the hell does he thinks he is? Are we breaking any FIFA rules? Jack needs to go 'hold him corners' and keep is ass quiet.

It is a purely financial decision which anybody with sense would accept. Since when we and Trinidad are 'buddy-buddy'.
Do u remember when they purposely cause us to not gain entry into the Gold Cup by sending weak team to play in their final Caribbean Cup match. Both TT and Jamaica were the strongest team in the Caribbean but they did not grant us any favour so that we could play in the Gold Cup that year.

Yes, we Support their world cup campaign but we need to make some money too. Jack and him friends keep laughing at us and showing off with their new stadiums.

I hope Boxhill don't get nervous and change his mind because I would be the first one to start start the call for his resignation.

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I hope Boxhill don't get nervous and change his mind because I would be the first one to start start the call for his resignation.

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I second that motion Double B. Ditto, Ditto mi i-dren.

What I recommend for T&T is a practice match against Jamaica before their game w/ some $$ involved ... and as soon as the 1st leg is over get on a plane to Bahrain or some nearby country and get some rest.

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What I recommend for T&T is a practice match against Jamaica before their game w/ some $$ involved ... and as soon as the 1st leg is over get on a plane to Bahrain or some nearby country and get some rest.

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Player,
You have a point there.

Trinidad can do these 3 things:

1. Pay us some money to play the Middle East guys 'rough' and beat them badly.

2. Pay us to allow them to set up a camp in Jamaica along side Bahrain.

3. They they can quickly arrange a match with us and pay us (again) to go 'soft' with them .

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Originally posted by shaggybear:
Foolishness. Take the money and the game. We damn sure need both.

I don't see TT delivering no cash for a warm up friendly...and I still waiting for the $35,000 that Warner TIEF us out after the Boyz dust out TT 4-2 5 years ago...bout hin nah pay wi cause wi send a understrength team. Go jump in a lake! Where was Burrell during that...

Brotherhood my boxcover.

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Originally posted by Double B:
Player,
You have a point there.

Trinidad can do these 3 things:

1. Pay us some money to play the Middle East guys 'rough' and beat them badly.

2. Pay us to allow them to set up a camp in Jamaica along side Bahrain.

3. They they can quickly arrange a match with us and pay us (again) to go 'soft' with them .

Then with us beating Bahrain convincingly and Trinidad beating us, this will give them (TT) a psychological advantage and/or unsettle Bahrain.

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Sadly if the situation was reverse Jacans would be making the same arguments Trinis are making and Trinis would be making the same arguments Jacans are making. Wrong or right?

Whether the act is right or wrong is relative to which side you are on. You guys are jokesters posing as thinkers.

As legend has it, it was TnT's sacrifice that not only led to the creation of this phenomenon known as the Reggaeboyz but also afforded the CONCACAF the possibility of four largely undeserving spots in the WC.

led to the creation of this phenomenon known as the Reggaeboyz but also afforded the CONCACAF the possibility of four largely undeserving spots in the WC.

What a way fi seh thanks. [/B][/QUOTE]

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Originally posted by pelepapa:
Caribbean disunity and in-fighting in full effect.

Sadly if the situation was reverse Jacans would be making the same arguments Trinis are making and Trinis would be making the same arguments Jacans are making. Wrong or right?

Whether the act is right or wrong is relative to which side you are on. You guys are jokesters posing as thinkers.

As legend has it, it was TnT's sacrifice that not only led to the creation of this phenomenon known as the Reggaeboyz but also afforded the CONCACAF the possibility of four largely undeserving spots in the WC.

What a way fi seh thanks.

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Originally posted by triniman:
Well people they are playing panama on thursday in bahrain .they paid panama full cost to get there plus a 500,000 us dollar match fee. the bahrain government is having an open budjet to qualify

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Originally posted by triniman:
Look if jaamaca had played barhain in barhain that would be no problem

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So what's the difference? If someone can truly explain the benefits of Bahrain playing and setting up camp in Jamaica will negatively affect T&T then we can be the judge. For those who say it will affect T&T, please list your reasons why. And, what difference would it make if they played and set up Camp in Venezuela? Bear in mind, Jamaica is not Trinidad and we share no secrets.

Trinidad should thank ($$)Jamaica for the opportunity to see Bahrain up-close and personal (study their weakness) instead of Warner running his mouth.

Boxjuice needs to really cement hard links with the Arabs and get money pumping in the region to secure votes to fight these two old geezers.

In fact T&T are no friends of ours they are haters and hate Jamaicans with a passion. If it were not for critcket we would have gone to war years ago. T&T are but little men in a big league of nations like Jamaica. Jamaica is a power house and one day a world leader of nations.

So having set our sights high, real high why should we even blink for jack? Yow war a war done di man dem and tek over the football business in the region.

Warner time is up and bowel should never set foot again in the JFF. Da drummer roach looking man thinks he is some god for our sport.

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Originally posted by Big Mountain:
So what's the difference? If someone can truly explain the benefits of Bahrain playing and setting up camp in Jamaica will negatively affect T&T then we can be the judge. For those who say it will affect T&T, please list your reasons why. And, what difference would it make if they played and set up Camp in Venezuela? Bear in mind, Jamaica is not Trinidad and we share no secrets.

Trinidad should thank ($$)Jamaica for the opportunity to see Bahrain up-close and personal (study their weakness) instead of Warner running his mouth.

If it smells like fish, then it is fishy! Sounds like a Warner/Burrell Seafood combo.

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Originally posted by cruyff14:
. . .anybody who believes Guatemala turned the match down through solidarity with their Concacaf colleagues is a bit naive . I don't see too much of a problem with it myself. And I think we must be careful to take Mr. Warner's 'outrage' with a grain of salt.

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damn...we agree on something political

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Originally posted by truetrini:
Furthermore. Jack Warner ahs done more for Caribbean teams and CONCACAF dan anyone else before him!

Dat includes making Burell big man in CFU.

Burell is ah Jamaican and did not do enough in his tenure,,dat is NOT Jack's fault.

Jack is ah trini an he spend he money in T&T...Burell did not as yuh scrambling to repay him now ent?

T&T eh have to repay Jack ah penny!

Dem is de tings yuh should focus on!

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Originally posted by pelepapa:
Caribbean disunity and in-fighting in full effect.

Sadly if the situation was reverse Jacans would be making the same arguments Trinis are making and Trinis would be making the same arguments Jacans are making. Wrong or right?

Whether the act is right or wrong is relative to which side you are on. You guys are jokesters posing as thinkers.

As legend has it, it was TnT's sacrifice that not only led to the creation of this phenomenon known as the Reggaeboyz but also afforded the CONCACAF the possibility of four largely undeserving spots in the WC.

What a way fi seh thanks.

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We probably wouldn't business PP. Yard man nuh business bout them thing deh. But if it was TT in the reverse scenario it probably woulda just confirm some long standing suspicians bout JAck Warner.

BOXHILL...stand strong brethren. Don't follow that bwoy Warner...him a take you fi fool. There is a natural rivalry between JA and TT and them bound to make argument about something like this. It is just part of the game and gamesmanship. After all a that we still a go drink juice and focus on out business (but maintain that rivalry in football). Maybe it will cause more tickets to sell next time we haffi dust out TT (make sure you get the appearance fee in advance though).

That form of language is a bit strong and suggests that there is some form of promise or written law that we are in the same boat..

This is the unfortunate seen of the business side of FOOTball.. The game.. Could Jamaica have showed a little business etiquette... Sure.. But what s the point when we would not receive the same in kind..

If the issue is about sportsmanship, then shouldn't TnT remember sportmanship extends further than occasions when they need help..

And of course we can argue about attitudes of blacks and West Indians and make loud shouts about Solidarity but how can you see your brother struggling (the JFF) and shout solidarity when it suits you.

There were no calls for Solidarity when we helped Guatamala prepare for their last games. The situation then is the same.. Fail against Mexico and Guatamala gawn thru.. Dont beat Bahrain and si wha happen.

Its so easy for the better off, advantaged and privaledged to point fingers of red eye, stab in the back and badmind. Jamaica has to survive also. If we went and asked for a game it would be different.. So when we shout solidarity, look after your own then your own wont seek other means which sometimes may be means you dont like..

So lets talk about the difficulties of preparing a team when majority of them reside and ply their trade abroad.. What do we think of tthe Wendell plan now???

With all the stadia and professional set up league how is it TnT are caught in this situation that they fear any form of supposedly disadvantagement.

Shouldn't TNT have realised or prempt that if they made it pass Mexico, then the stakes would of been high hence have a backup plan if the players got injured or tired..

Come on don't you see it is a win-win situation. We get trinkets, liquor, money, ammunitions, etc...in exchange we trick the stupid white man into taking our brothers on an all-expense paid cruise across the Atlantic.

Since none of us have definite knowledge how the game benefits the Bahrainians why not base our inference on what they are willing to offer in exchange. If we go on that then there are a 1,000,000 reasons to conclude that they think they have a lot to gain from this game and camp.

Then again you guys are making the point that Bahrain is the modern day stupid white man who is paying money for a game that will benefit TnT more than them.

I think Ja would be made to pay for this shortsighted decision...after the money is wasted away what are they going to have left? Jack Warner on their a** that's what.

The JFF doesn't need cash which will only be siphoned off. They need programs and support in building an infrastructure.

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Originally posted by pelepapa:
No man is going to sit by quietly, least of all a Jacan, while he perceive another man is trying to undermine his efforts at reaching his goal. Especially a man with whom he supposedly shares a kinship.

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PP - How are we undermining their efforts? Are we selling their secrets? If you are going to take sides, then explain how this scenario is going to effect T&T chances? If so, then the counter effect is that T&T should be setting up camp In Saudi Arabia. Would this benefit them? I doubt it.

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Originally posted by Big Mountain:
PP - How are we undermining their efforts? Are we selling their secrets? If you are going to take sides, then explain how this scenario is going to effect T&T chances? If so, then the counter effect is that T&T should be setting up camp In Saudi Arabia. Would this benefit them? I doubt it.

I think Warner trash talking is doing more harm than good. Right now T&T has lost their focus and that's the problem! Are they scared? They are sending the wrong signal to Bahrain. Mental toughness is the key and they should not let this startle them. That's the first sign of weakness they have already exposed this to their opponent.

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Hoe has T&T lost focus?

If you or anyone else here feels that Bahrain will beat T&T,,with or without Jamaica's help..then you are sadly mistaken.

We are going to buss dem arse..good and proper.

Personally, I have an issue with the 8 day camp..dat reeks of sell-out! Especially the part of an 8 day camp.

Nontheless, the battle will be won or lost on the playing field and will have little to do with what Jamaica did..since they have been knocked out of contention for a place in germany..long ago!

Love him or hate him..Jack Warner has done MORE for CONCACAF than any previous Federation head.

Come November 12th I will be proudly waving meh trini flag in MY national stadium supporting MY team as they beat the bejesus out of Bahrain!