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#94041 - 05/13/08 02:03 PM Can USA beat ENGLAND???
orlandopat
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Can this team:

http://www.ussoccer.com/common/stContent.jsp_16-MNT2008.html

Beat...this team?

http://www.thefa.com/England/SeniorTeam/Players/

I would not be surprised if the USA won!

They scored 2 against Brazil!

What do you think?

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#94042 - 05/13/08 02:05 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: orlandopat]
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If England comes with a B squad, they will lose barring sabotage.
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#94043 - 05/13/08 02:12 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: jamatl]
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Some USA 2008 Results:

http://www.ussoccer.com/common/stContent.jsp_16-08MNTResLU.html

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#94045 - 05/13/08 02:21 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: orlandopat]
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Looks like the "A" team to me!

http://www.thefa.com/England/SeniorTeam/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2008/05/USAEngland_SquadNamed.htm

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#94051 - 05/13/08 02:51 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: orlandopat]
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On paper England has the stronger team...I actually doubt any of the Americans could make the starting eleven for England. That being said, the ball is round and anything can happen in a game.
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#94076 - 05/13/08 08:31 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: TheDread]
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it took england 84 minutes and ah cheat play to score against Trinidad in de last World Cup
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#94114 - 05/14/08 11:49 AM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: truetrini]
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The same Engalnd that fail to qualify for the Euros?...the same England who has been playing poorly lately?..Yes USA can beat England...If we matching up player against player then England have a better squad but based on recent team performances USA has the advantage..
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#94132 - 05/14/08 03:27 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: mercyless19]
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WOW!!!

Finally someome verbalized what I have been saying for eight months. They are not as skilled as other players but they make up for it in pre-game preparation, team selection and management.
They could not even carry water for the Brazilians but they gave them a fight and scored two goals.

That is what we have to learn. Scouting, pre-game prep, team selection, game-planning and game-plan execution.

If we do this, with the talent that we have, we are as good as the best and better than the rest.

In other words. If they had the same player pool that we have and gave us their player pool, they would beat us every time.

It comes back to organizational management. Management of resources in general and Human resources management in particular.

I have confidence in the Management Team in place. We have not had the proper preparation this time. But the intellectual capital that they bring to the table -coupled with our more advanced player pool should reduce the learning curve and just get us there. I am not going to China anymore. Too many darn problems. But SA2010 here we come.

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#94213 - 05/15/08 01:20 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: orlandopat]
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Anything can happen but I expect a competitive game. But keep in mind this game is being held in England, and the USA overall has a poor record playing in Europe.

In fact, England is playing two CONCACAF teams. Let's see how the CONCACAF representatives cope against one of Europe's best teams.
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#94244 - 05/16/08 06:19 AM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: MikeU]
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Do I tink dere is a chance.... mi quess. But England should an mi hope come out big time. usa should not play football, is not dere game. Dem should leave football to di rest of di world an stay wid dem han ball game.
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#94250 - 05/16/08 07:06 AM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: J_RockRudeBwoy]
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There are Americans who like Football, dont be mad ruderetardbwoy because Jamaica has never beat America. I told u already, ur team needs new talent. The guys u think are good really suck, maybe Jamaicans should stick to music and leave sports to the rest of the world.

Unless u get Joel Senior, Tyrone Marshall, Jermaine Pennant, or Marcus Bent, ur team will not do shit, trust me i know football well. Fuller is decent but he is shite at the international level. U see football in England is like a sprinting game, while international football in Concacaf is a thinking and planning game.

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#94258 - 05/16/08 08:07 AM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: di Juju]
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Sports in general di Juju? Will you be watching the Olympics this summer? Never heard of Jamaicans Chilli Davis (baseball "World" Champion with Yanks and Minnesota) or Devon White (baseball "World" Champion with Florida and Toronto, or Sean Jones (NFL "World" Champion with the Packers) or Patrick Ewing basketball runner up. Marshall with the Galaxy as well. If not for Hockey you couldn“t find a US sport without a yardie champion.

All that said I take a few of your points regarding our team where it could be strengthened but we are not as bad as you think and could pull off a couple surprises.


Edited by reddevil (05/16/08 08:09 AM)
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#94280 - 05/16/08 11:38 AM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: reddevil]
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Mi argument di juju, is not that Jamaica is di greatest. Mi realize dat JA need work, an tink dem on dere way. Di fact is dat, till few years back, america over all could care less bout real football, an dats di way it should be. Dem love to be part of every ting an tink dem all dat. Mi cant tink of any other country dat call football soccer, only dem backwards idiots. Keep yu jackass statements to yu self bout Ja cant beat america. It can be done easily.

Edited by J_RockRudeBwoy (05/16/08 11:41 AM)
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#94291 - 05/16/08 12:40 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: J_RockRudeBwoy]
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DONE EASILY so why hasnt it happened. I know u Jamaicans are illiterate so let me educate u. Now u see in England during the early 1900's football was called soccer by the upper class English people. It was a sport for the rich; but the sport was a big hit with the lower class people or what many call the everyday man, who called the sport football. Today it is called football but it was once called soccer in England. It is also called soccer in parts of Asia. Now Ruderetard go back to ur country-- if it is so great why are people always leaving? My views are not the same as most Americans --- most Americans can care less about Jamaica's wannabe Football team
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#94302 - 05/16/08 02:09 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: di Juju]
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 Originally Posted By: di Juju
DONE EASILY so why hasnt it happened. I know u Jamaicans are illiterate so let me educate u. Now u see in England during the early 1900's football was called soccer by the upper class English people. It was a sport for the rich; but the sport was a big hit with the lower class people or what many call the everyday man, who called the sport football. Today it is called football but it was once called soccer in England. It is also called soccer in parts of Asia. Now Ruderetard go back to ur country-- if it is so great why are people always leaving? My views are not the same as most Americans --- most Americans can care less about Jamaica's wannabe Football team



My apologies Metro for defending dis eeediot who should be gone!!!

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#94303 - 05/16/08 02:13 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: di Juju]
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actually di jackass, Jamaica has beaten the USA...check your facts!

secondly, gweh from ya suh wid yu classism dunce bat. Even the English words unuh a tief and a try mek it unuh own...

Since u wanna dispute the word soccer, guh read fassy

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~pstone/why.html

tink a everybody fool fool like u

try to be less of a moron will ya...
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#94304 - 05/16/08 02:16 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: pHoQrY]
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Now...can the USA beat England, most definitely...dem tief and naturalize enuff people to have a good enuff team to beat any side.
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#94307 - 05/16/08 02:24 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: di Juju]
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 Originally Posted By: di Juju
DONE EASILY so why hasnt it happened. I know u Jamaicans are illiterate so let me educate u. Now u see in England during the early 1900's football was called soccer by the upper class English people. It was a sport for the rich; but the sport was a big hit with the lower class people or what many call the everyday man, who called the sport football. Today it is called football but it was once called soccer in England. It is also called soccer in parts of Asia. Now Ruderetard go back to ur country-- if it is so great why are people always leaving? My views are not the same as most Americans --- most Americans can care less about Jamaica's wannabe Football team


...why do you care so much about Jamaican football?

Every time I see a post like this that is just pure foolishness I have to believe it is a bogus persona. I mean, you would have to be ridiculously immature or a complete moron to think it would be productive to come to a Jamaican site just to tell the people their country is not as great as they think it is.

What sort of a complete idiot would waste their time on something like that? What is the accomplishment? The posts seem so ridiculous and contrived, and this is why they are easy to ignore as just some idiot looking for attention.

Go check http://www.youporn.com star, it would be a more enjoyable experience for you. heheheheh
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#94309 - 05/16/08 02:25 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: pHoQrY]
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Not hear to argue phuckry, am just telling the truth and am stating the facts. The USA has never lost to Jamaica at the mens international level. It is the facts. What r u trying to prove, that Jamaica has a better side than the USA. That is like saying UTECH is better than Harvard-- impossible

Why do u write in the horrible grammar didnt u go to school. USA does not have a ton of naturalized players anyways why dont u go back to ur country if u hate the USA so much. I only follow the reggae boyz cuz believe it or not i have friends in the program, quite a few. Mainly guys who play int he States.

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#94312 - 05/16/08 02:40 PM Re: Can USA beat ENGLAND??? [Re: metro]
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