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#93980 - 05/12/08 05:02 PM
Very Angry at Wenger
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alfinite
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I'm so angry at Arson Wenger right now! Unbelievable!!!! This idiot had the chance to buy Micah Richards and now I'm hearing Man U is about to buy him from City!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not cool when Arsenal is really suspect in the back and is in dire needs of better defense. Cheap F***
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#93982 - 05/12/08 06:13 PM
Re: Very Angry at Wenger
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Yes boss. Wenger has disgraced us this season by throwing away the title and when young quality players publicly state their love for arsenal, he ignores them and then let manu snap them up.
Its really madness I tell you. Technically and football wise he is the best in England(if not europe) but i am sometimes baffled by his decision making and stubborness at times.
The boy Micah has great quality and in the past, its english central defenders that served us best.
Because of wenger`s lack of forcefulness, he caused Micah to renew his contract and played the ball into manu`s court with the high price he will now attract. The boy will have to settle for manu now and at a price out of our reach. what a disgrace.
He allowed manu to snatch Ronaldo out of his hands too. And Ronaldo is now the reason manu won the title we threw away.
Quite sad.
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#93991 - 05/12/08 07:58 PM
Re: Very Angry at Wenger
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First of all 4 points off the title when some forecasters didn´t even have you in the top 4 is not a disgrace it is an achievement. Secondly, you can´t have it both ways, either Man U´s financial strength is too much to compete with or Wenger isn´t forceful. Make up your mind which one is it? Are you admitting that Arsenal has financial strength they are not using and that you can´t always hide behind the Man U buying the title excuse? Regarding Ronaldo (and Wenger affirms this by the way) neither is true, Man U has an alliance with Sporting therefore have first dibs, he never had Ronaldo in his hands, he had a good chance at him but it was always Man U´s situation to manage.
Edited by reddevil (05/12/08 07:59 PM)
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#94026 - 05/13/08 09:54 AM
Re: Very Angry at Wenger
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First of all 4 points off the title when some forecasters didn´t even have you in the top 4 is not a disgrace it is an achievement.
Its a disgrace because it was well within grasp and the isde folded like a baby. When it mattered most, they had the worst run an arsenal team ever had in about 20 years.
the disgrace is in throwing it away so meekley(the meekly now more applicable to arsenal yes?)
Secondly, you can´t have it both ways, either Man U´s financial strength is too much to compete with or Wenger isn´t forceful.
Manu`s financial strength is too much for others to compete with but if wenger add`s a bit of forcefulness to his armoury(and let go off some of that ego), he can overhaul manu, well he ws actually ahead of manu and throw it away with one of the worst runs ever. I wouldn`t say we couldn`t compete this season when were leading all the way and it wasn`t anything special that manu and Chelski did to overhaul us.
So with a bit of forcefuless in bringing in Micah, and get rid of the cancerous senderos and get a deent keeper, the title would have been ours even if manu played out of their skins with all that financial muscle. Luck with injuries didn`t favour us but thats all a part of the game( not sure about the eduardo thing though)
Make up your mind which one is it? Are you admitting that Arsenal has financial strength they are not using and that you
I said Micah said he loved arsenal and at the time didn`t exttend his contract, so wasn`t as expensive as now.
can´t always hide behind the Man U buying the title excuse?
Yes they are, along with chelski. When they can do what the are doing in the league, as it is now, we can say otherwise. Why do you think other managers can`t compete in the league apart from wenger? Do you think they are so much worse than fergie? i think not. Take away Fergie`s financial power and make it comparable to the rest of the league and see.
That aside, you have to give him some credit too. And yes he was smart in bringing in quieroz to make quality signings and bring a bit of technicality to the manu game.
Regarding Ronaldo (and Wenger affirms this by the way) neither is true,
Nope. From what i read, arsene had him at highbury and fergie moved in for the steal, using the quieroz link. If he was more forceful he would have had him.
Man U has an alliance with Sporting therefore have first dibs, he never had Ronaldo in his hands, he had a good chance at him but it was always Man U´s situation to manage.
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#94155 - 05/14/08 07:59 PM
Re: Very Angry at Wenger
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Yes, Ronaldo is a great player. But I am glad that Wenger dropped the ball on this particular player. Ronaldo is the Tim Duncan of the Premiership- a player of great skill but he is an annoying whiner- never believes he commits a foul and always thinks he is fouled. To me, he is the most polarizing figure in the EPL- some of it is bias, but I really enjoy watching him cry when he loses and it adds to the ManU rivalry and makes it that much sweeter when we win. Now that Flamini and Hleb are out, Wenger has no choice but to be active this offseason- he knows he will be under scrutiny if he comes up empty.
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#94165 - 05/15/08 04:09 AM
Re: Very Angry at Wenger
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Gary,
let me ask you something, is it 10 English league titles that Fergie won? If so do you think he has great spending power for all titles??
How about his success in Europe with a Scottish side in the early 80s? How much money he had then?
Yu seem to think Fergie is some dibby dibby manager. You are simply a sore loser. Tek yu licks like a man!
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#94203 - 05/15/08 10:35 AM
Re: Very Angry at Wenger
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Lawd mi tiyaad tell gary bout dat. He knows he chooses not to mention it or belittles it somehow. I think it´s a bigger deal how he dominated Scotland with Aberdeen than Arsenal a rich club winning in England. Also after yesterday that club is still the most recent to win a European trophy some 25 years ago against Real Madrid. No joke, it´s not like losing to Galatasaray.
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#94219 - 05/15/08 02:42 PM
Re: Very Angry at Wenger
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gary
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let me ask you something, is it 10 English league titles that Fergie won? If so do you think he has great spending power for all titles??
For most of the titles.
How about his success in Europe with a Scottish side in the early 80s? How much money he had then?
What he won the champions league with them?
Yu seem to think Fergie is some dibby dibby manager. You are simply a sore loser. Tek yu licks like a man!
Wouldn`t say a dibby dibby manager, he obviously has some quality but its the spending power that is mainly responsible for his success in such a quality league.
Its the spending power that he has over his rivals.
Could he succeed without the 28-30 million pound players like Rooney/Rio? No! deal with it. Yes and keep them with obscene wages. Don`t quarrel with me but with Fergie. Deal with the facts. His side cost about 3 times the arsenal one, not to mention obscene wages. Its the hard cold fact
If a team beats us spending comparable money I say tek my licks.
You and Chelski buy the league? Then i tek licks wid money but not with coaching brilliance.
Quite so.
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