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#93620 - 05/07/08 07:14 PM Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings....
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Reggaeboyz are now # 105

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/rankin...=23914&rank=169


Edited by LINCOLN (05/07/08 07:14 PM)
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#93638 - 05/07/08 08:14 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: LINCOLN]
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Humble One dis nuh possible. Dont certain ites did sey wi caan get no kit deal if wi skanking nuh improve? Well so much for dat theory. Kit deal de ya, and Skanking get Skankeya...

Ddread, Links, and all others wey wasa defend dem endz dey whats your take now, do you have any odda 'theories'?

If not den de hot gal theory rule.

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#93639 - 05/07/08 08:19 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: Xy]
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Guatemala should not be ranked higher than the reggae boyz. Ranking is fraud.
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#93640 - 05/07/08 08:59 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: CARTER]
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Why not? Didn´t they go further in the previous World Cup and Gold Cup while also finishing 3rd in the Central American championship? Compare that with Jamaica slipping out of the World Cup in a previous round and not qualfying for the Gold Cup because of a first round exit as host nation in the Digicel Cup. A few head to head friendly wins don´t outweigh 3 better tournament performances when the chips are down in a 3 year span. And if this includes the Olympics I have more news for you.

Edited by reddevil (05/07/08 09:00 PM)

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#93641 - 05/07/08 09:21 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: reddevil]
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Sin Feb 06 they have played 22 matches and won only 6 matches drew 5 and lost 11. I think the only reason they are above us right now is because they beat Mexico(worth a lot of points due to ranking) last october apart from that victory there other victories were against El Salvador (2),Haiti(1), Belize(1) and Nicaragua(1) so its not an impressive record and in time they will no doubt fall below us.

So basically "the strength of the opponent" aspect of the points calculation weighed in their favor from the Mexico match. Plus they were more active than us over the last year

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#93646 - 05/08/08 05:36 AM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: Xy]
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 Originally Posted By: Xy
Humble One dis nuh possible. Dont certain ites did sey wi caan get no kit deal if wi skanking nuh improve? Well so much for dat theory. Kit deal de ya, and Skanking get Skankeya...

Ddread, Links, and all others wey wasa defend dem endz dey whats your take now, do you have any odda 'theories'?

If not den de hot gal theory rule.


X to di Y,

mi not even a guh seh a word!

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#93650 - 05/08/08 07:16 AM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: Humble Lion]
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 Originally Posted By: Humble Lion
 Originally Posted By: Xy
Humble One dis nuh possible. Dont certain ites did sey wi caan get no kit deal if wi skanking nuh improve? Well so much for dat theory. Kit deal de ya, and Skanking get Skankeya...

Ddread, Links, and all others wey wasa defend dem endz dey whats your take now, do you have any odda 'theories'?

If not den de hot gal theory rule.


X to di Y,

mi not even a guh seh a word!





HL thanx to Boxill & Clowns dem know dem self.
Boxhill put jamaica back twenty yrs.

oonu cannot Blaim Burrell im duh more dan
enuff.
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#93651 - 05/08/08 07:17 AM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: Humble Lion]
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I never said we could not get a kit deal. The captain said that the low ranking affected the deal he was trying to negotiate and I made the case for why it was reasonable to believe him. We can always get a clothes deal – if that is what you call a kit deal. The issue is what kind of deal. Clearly if you are world cup bound you get a better deal than if you are not. If the ranking is any indicator (which in most reasonable people will say it is) Jamaica will probably not make it to the world cup.

Take this analogy: Low SAT scores does not mean you wont go to college but low SAT scores it will limit your choices in schools and the amount(if any) of scholarship offers you get. The reggaeboyz essentially got a pell grant to attend the local college with this Kappa deal – not bad - Kudos to the Kappo for making it happen.

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#93657 - 05/08/08 08:05 AM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: ddread]
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Here is my take on this crap:

1.If you cannot get a decent deal when you are ranked at 70 plus, you do not deserve one when you land on the lower end of the FIFA rankings becuase you are just a flash in the pan. You are NOT the real deal.Nigeria can seal a solid deal even at # 132.

2.If the Captain can secure a "lurcrative" deal at 103, he deserves the right to tell a sponsor to go "Jump in the lake" when the Boyz rankings get better.

*The best time to judge your true value to people is not when you are dressed up and looking GQ.......Your quality should still show when you are covered with mud...........substance over kaka \:D
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#93661 - 05/08/08 09:50 AM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: LINCOLN]
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Is Boxhill fault the Boyz have slipped even further.
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#93662 - 05/08/08 09:51 AM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: ballhead21]
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 Originally Posted By: ballhead21
Sin Feb 06 they have played 22 matches and won only 6 matches drew 5 and lost 11. I think the only reason they are above us right now is because they beat Mexico(worth a lot of points due to ranking) last october apart from that victory there other victories were against El Salvador (2),Haiti(1), Belize(1) and Nicaragua(1) so its not an impressive record and in time they will no doubt fall below us.

So basically "the strength of the opponent" aspect of the points calculation weighed in their favor from the Mexico match. Plus they were more active than us over the last year


Of those wins the majority are in competitions (UNCAF in El Salvador and Gold Cup in USA) which weigh more and of the many losses the majority are friendlies (all outside Guatemala) which weigh less. The best friendly results a win over Mexico in LA (almost a road game) and a draw on the road at USA, two highly ranked teams which weigh more as well. Jamaica has been less active has had some big beatings from high mid and low ranked teams (England, Iran, Ghana) and has drawn with lower ranked teams in friendlies at home. Having not qualified for Gold Cup also hurts our ranking, cosnidering we are talking about losing a competitive game to St Vincent at home. This is all from what I understand of the ranking system.


Edited by reddevil (05/08/08 09:54 AM)

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#93667 - 05/08/08 10:52 AM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: shaggybear]
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 Originally Posted By: shaggybear
Is Boxhill fault the Boyz have slipped even further.


shaggy

you are fast becoming the typical arrogant caribbean black man who causes trouble, has no point or plan, and no respect for authority

give it up ! \:\)

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#93671 - 05/08/08 11:15 AM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: reddevil]
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It's the inactivity that is the cause of our descending in the ranks...when we begin to play regularly, possibly 2 matches a month over a year period, then our rank will rise extensively.

We are ranked 9th in CONCACAF, so we should not be able to make it to the hex...unfortunately....

the next fifa release date for the rankings is june 4 and we have nothing between then...so we might fall again
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#93676 - 05/08/08 12:00 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: shaggybear]
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 Originally Posted By: shaggybear
Is Boxhill fault the Boyz have slipped even further.
Agree 100% Boxhill have destroy the reggaeboyz
Brand, But you need to Blaim people like Jack Warner,as well.
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#93677 - 05/08/08 12:12 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: metro]
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I cannot wait for Jack Warner to step down.
He cannot grow old and shit in his Bed at FIFA.
He will have to step down.
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#93684 - 05/08/08 01:23 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: metro]
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 Originally Posted By: metro
 Originally Posted By: shaggybear
Is Boxhill fault the Boyz have slipped even further.
Agree 100% Boxhill have destroy the reggaeboyz
Brand, But you need to Blaim people like Jack Warner,as well.



s'mady get 'ketch' ;\)

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#93708 - 05/08/08 04:51 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: Humble Lion]
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 Originally Posted By: Humble Lion

s'mady get 'ketch' ;\)


...And that would be you \:\) The Boxhill effect is still in play!

It may sound like a sarcastic comment but is in fact true. Based on the FIFA Rankings calculation criteria - The Boxhill era is still very much active in the current rankings.

The explanation for our continued slippage even though we are 2-2-0 under Burrell, is the fact that whatever decent results Jamaica had 4 years ago has now slipped off the chart and the string of bad results along with the lack of games are now taking full effect. While that being said, other teams that may have poor results 4 years ago have slipped off the chart and their positive results are now taking full effect.

That's why it appears that teams who we consider "better than' are ahead of us, while we are slipping.

Therefore, YES! The Boxhill effect is still on the charts and is still affecting our rankings. Also, don't be surprise if we win the next few games and still slip in the rankings. The bottom line is that it will take more than a few positive games for us to get us back on track and move up the rankings.
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#93715 - 05/08/08 06:48 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: Big Mountain]
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personally I don't think that at this point we should really be worried about rankings. Yes it has a lot of negative effects on our team, but there isn't much we can do about it currently.

Instead I hope the team focuses more on providing better results in the matches to come escpecially in the qualifiers, ratings will improve eventually.

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#93716 - 05/08/08 06:50 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: Big Mountain]
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The way that FIFA shows how strong the team is is a good method. But the way how they calculate the rankings is very werid. I remember in October we never played any matches and we hopped 20 places. And now since we never played any matches in april they drop us 2 places down
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#93720 - 05/08/08 07:04 PM Re: Boyz # 105 in FIFA Spankings.... [Re: Jamaicanyouth]
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HL always get ketch. It is obvious Boxhill nonperformance at the presidential throne plus not playing regularly is affecting our ranking right now. I would not sweat the ranking since the boyz have some games coming up and the stage is been set to put a strong team on the field, the damage is already done by boyzkill.

As for Guatemala they played agaisnt second string US and Mexican team's. I am sure Jamaica would have won those games. I guess the gold cup appearance had a lot of weighting but it is only before the Boyz rise.


Metro wah you a blame Warner fa?

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