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#91003 - 04/02/08 03:17 AM
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The main sponsor of Jamaica's priemier league Cash Plus is in receivership and I am wondering how will this affect the NPL and the club deal that NPL clubs association and Seaga worked out with them.
Yes man, dem dash weh the long time sponsor Wray and Nephew and now this. Will this cause some of the less financed clubs to fold and how will it affect the league in the long term? Will Captains Bakery come to their rescue? Hoooray for Captain's Bakery..Hooray for Burrell.
I just keeping the ites eyes open to some of the crap.
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#91436 - 04/10/08 03:31 AM
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Cash Plus broke - Receiver says investment club has no money to pay out published: Thursday | April 10, 2008
Arthur Hall, Senior Staff Reporter
# The Cash Plus balance sheet Total assets as at the end of September 2007: $15b. # Total inter-company loans: $4b . Principal under management: $16b. # Amount due in interest payments: $23b # Balance on properties being acquired: $5b.
There are more worrying signs for hundreds of investors in the informal investment scheme, Cash Plus Limited.
The court-appointed co-interim receiver manager, Kevin Bandoian, has disclosed that Cash Plus has no money to begin repayments on April 14 as scheduled, and there is no indication whether the repayments will ever be made.
Last month, Cash Plus Ltd announced that persons with balances up to $100,000 would be repaid next Monday. Those with balances up to $200,000 were to be repaid on April 21, while persons with larger balances would get a portion of funds invested at Cash Plus.
At that time, Cash Plus boss Carlos Hill claimed the investment scheme had the money to refund its clients in full.
Bad news
But yesterday Bandoian had bad news for persons waiting on their money. "The dates for repayment to lenders, which were published by Carlos Hill on March 30, are no longer valid, as Hill has confirmed his inability to source the money to begin the repayments," he said.
Bandoian said Hill informed him of the development on Friday, April 4.
The receiver manager said Hill has made it clear that the payment plan he announced previously would have to be suspended.
Hill also told the receivers that he was unable to secure the necessary funding or access sufficient liquidity to start repaying lenders as he had promised.
Trying to source funds
More than a week ago the Financial Services Commission said Cash Plus had informed that it was trying to source funds from Turks and Caicos to make the payouts.
"It is regrettable that payments will not be made on April 14 and unfortunate that so many lenders will be disappointed," Bandoian said.
He was unable to say when the repayments would begin. "This is a large and complex assignment, and the team is working within an extremely tight time frame to meet the court's reporting deadline," he said.
Bandoian was appointed co-interim receiver manager by the Supreme Court on March 31. He has been given 35 days to submit a report to the court.
To date, the receiver managers have found more than 80 Cash Plus affiliates in several different countries but most of these entities have little or no assets and/or no business activity.
"The operations of each entity will need to be thoroughly examined to ascertain the viability and opportunity for maximising available assets," Bandoian added.
"This is a very serious matter, and I appreciate the sensitivity with which this case must be treated. We are attempting to gather all assets and details of assets to determine what is available to repay lenders."
But he said this was not an easy task. "The situation is very fluid at this time, and what we have learned so far continues to evolve, given the existence of conflicting records."
Yesterday, persons in the financial sector said they were not surprised by the disclosure.
The persons, who asked not to be named, pointed to the financial statement released by Cash Plus late last year which, they said, made it clear that the entity was bankrupt.
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#91440 - 04/10/08 07:01 AM
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only the blind couldn't see this coming 
once again, who fi mek dem money dun mek it long time dem ting yah always seem fi POP DUNG when 'poor people' decide fi risk dem likkle money
lessons to be learned:
1) if something appears too good to be true; it probably is 2) when the masses aka poor people start invest inna anything, look fi it pop dung soon and while dem loose $$, the rich get richer offa poor people losses 3) the old fashion way is the way to go: work hard, save you money and no badda try get rich quick
disclaimer: I am not rejoicing at the 'investors' demise, caw likkle most mi mother invest har likkle pension money inna it. i know some of her friends did, and they are livid that they have 'lost' their money in their 'twilight' years. so sad !!!
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#91447 - 04/10/08 10:44 AM
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Whey u sey Humble Lion, neva bite deh hand dat feed u. J. Wray ah em Nephew dem did a doe a good job even duh the bills were small. But dem couldn't tek dem check to de bank fi sure, sure.
It's like a yard man hav em girl frah when she a wear de tightup shirt and em a wear em arrow shirt. Den a foreigner fly dung and she run gone wid deh foreigner. Next ting, she wid child ah the foreigner gone back left har wid har hand pon har jaw.
Not rejoicing eeeda cah a nuff youte will be left hungry.
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#91449 - 04/10/08 11:22 AM
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bwoy Trips, when mi talk dem cuss mi and kick mi inna mi batty and run mi weh seh mi chat too much (whaapen mi idren zilla; paw, what a gwaan inna di 'sunshine city' deh)
but yu si as long as a di TRUTH mi a talk, dem haffi go kill mi mi naw stop talk it
white rum money dem gi weh WHITE RUM weh sell more than anything else inna jamaica; nine night dem drink white rum, rain ketch yu yu rub up inna white rum, sorrel nuh nice widout white rum, whiute rum fi EVERYTING mi seh
sure money dem gi weh
fi wah?
PROMISES of higher return?
a only bread and bulla money can compare to white rum money so as a fan seh, hip hip horace may haffi go bail wi out
btw, mi know nuff gal weh get ketch dem way deh too run gone leff dem long time man tru farina fly dung
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#91460 - 04/10/08 04:52 PM
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Cash plus f@@k the get rich quick mentality people in JA including the NPL. Something was fishy when they refuse to join the Securities commision. You know on a smaller scale investment clubs rip people off all the time in North America.
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#91462 - 04/10/08 06:16 PM
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I have observed 2 simple facts since I have been on this earth.
1- All financial instrument being pitch primarily to poor people are unsustainable schemes. Logic dictates that if these instruments were legit the promoters only have to offer half the return they are now offering and the financial market would lap them up. So why would the promoters take a financial hit by offering higher returns to financially unsophisticated individuals and also pass up the opportunity to hobnob with the upper crust of the financial market to dabble with poor people? They won't if they didn't have to, and the only reason they have to is because the investments are suspect or worse.
The first time I heard about these crazy returns I said somebody is trying to wash their money. Which is not all bad, since as long as they need to wash the money the returns will keep coming unlike other pyramid schemes that are dependent on a continuous influx of cash money to sustain themself.
I wish I was wrong and I still hope there is some remedy since many people I know got involved or were thinking of getting involved.
2- In corporate America, and probably workplaces throughout the world, stay away as much as you possible can from departments or assigments where it appears they are stackpiling their black workforce. These departments or assignments are usually the least glamorous, the most dead-end and expendable, meaning they are the first to be eliminated when the company cuts back.
Those are my 2 nuggets.
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#91466 - 04/10/08 08:01 PM
Re: Cash Plus in receivership, how will it affect NPL?
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Carlos Hill in custody:
http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/7165/26/
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#91473 - 04/10/08 08:43 PM
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I have observed 2 simple facts since I have been on this earth.
1- All financial instrument being pitch primarily to poor people are unsustainable schemes. Logic dictates that if these instruments were legit the promoters only have to offer half the return they are now offering and the financial market would lap them up. So why would the promoters take a financial hit by offering higher returns to financially unsophisticated individuals and also pass up the opportunity to hobnob with the upper crust of the financial market to dabble with poor people? They won't if they didn't have to, and the only reason they have to is because the investments are suspect or worse.
The first time I heard about these crazy returns I said somebody is trying to wash their money. Which is not all bad, since as long as they need to wash the money the returns will keep coming unlike other pyramid schemes that are dependent on a continuous influx of cash money to sustain themself.
I wish I was wrong and I still hope there is some remedy since many people I know got involved or were thinking of getting involved.
2- In corporate America, and probably workplaces throughout the world, stay away as much as you possible can from departments or assigments where it appears they are stackpiling their black workforce. These departments or assignments are usually the least glamorous, the most dead-end and expendable, meaning they are the first to be eliminated when the company cuts back.
Those are my 2 nuggets.
Pelapeppa, the Last Paragraph really hit home Iya. Fi real. Btw, didn't Enron do the Same or Similar to their investors?
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#91495 - 04/11/08 06:57 AM
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Cash plus f@@k the get rich quick mentality people in JA including the NPL. Something was fishy when they refuse to join the Securities commision. You know on a smaller scale investment clubs rip people off all the time in North America.
Carter wen u R@@@a go America weh u go deh fah. Capital falla rent or the highest reward. Y u no av r@@s money inna di stock market whether directly or tru 40K. Go easy brethren people mek mistakes a so it go. Some people like myself knew the risk with high returns and as such mi prepare fi dis from di first day mi go in deh. Rule of thumb, if u not prepare to lose avoid certain investments. For example fi u fraid a jail, leave the weed business alone. But brethren wen u a come talk bout get rich mentality, like that no deh evry way. Regulators should make sure seh dem schemes dont prop up in the money market.
Is yesterday mi and some pow pow a reason and dem a mek mi kno di full hundred. B4 mi use to lick out gainst Lee-Chin and di observer. My apologies to dem. But mek mi tell u, Hill fi gah jail fi life. As a matter of fact a nuff bad man who deh prison av people who him swindle.
U see that ting call ignorance or lack of information is a hell of a ting and is the bane of society.That Y we need good government institutions. Hill should av neva been able to set up cashless in the first place.
Edited by zilla (04/11/08 07:04 AM)
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#91497 - 04/11/08 07:27 AM
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Zilla, mi idren. Nuh watch no face elda, a so de ting set up.They will get their just reward. I agree with wid you, my little 401k, IRA and all investments are just as risky. I saw one of my portfolio loose over 50% of it's value in the space of tree month.
Carter, yu haffi go easy bredren. Man ah man ano eediot everyone waan increase dem value and sometimes risk are involved. Memba Paul Chen Young and the Eagle Merchant Bank, Memba Don Crawford ah Century National Bank. Also over yah, we have Enron, and a plethora of odda financial foul ups.
PeleP: I like your # 1 nugget boss - great food for thought.
HumbleL: Your white rum bantor funny no rahtid george, but true. Apart from church, the rock has more rum bar per sq. mile from Morant point to Negril point.
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#91502 - 04/11/08 07:57 AM
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yes zilla and trips
i do agree that almost everyone wants to 'get rich' regardless of location
but there is some truth to carters statement about 'getting rich quick' not that is jamaica alone it happen, but some people just want to get rich quick(er)
there are other financial instruments in jamaica, like JMMB that offer attractive returns that can allow you to meet your financial goals without the RISK, but over a longer TERM
those are the ones I WOULD gravitate towards (if mi did have the $$$) 
then there are others, that tend to attract people who cannot wait t o see their return double, and gput their money in it a dem people deh want get rich QUICKER than those who invest in less risky securities
arite, zilla gi an example bout weed man and jail
you know how much man me HEAR bout weh a juggle from floppy kill lappo and never get dem finger dutty yet.
WHY??
caw dem well cautious, and dem nuh GREEDY
you have some hurry come up now, who a try get rich inna dem first year and braps, beast 'suck' dem off.
so if there is a lesson to be learned iya, and thank the father seh wi can learn it at others expense, is that whether you a big smuggler or street hustler, big investor or novice investor, it more prudent to take less risks and gwaan full yu basket wid 'one one cocoa' to avoid the pitfalls of risky choices
a suh di ting set!!
bless up!!!
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#91504 - 04/11/08 08:23 AM
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yes zilla and trips i do agree that almost everyone wants to 'get rich' regardless of location but there is some truth to carters statement about 'getting rich quick' not that is jamaica alone it happen, but some people just want to get rich quick(er) there are other financial instruments in jamaica, like JMMB that offer attractive returns that can allow you to meet your financial goals without the RISK, but over a longer TERM those are the ones I WOULD gravitate towards (if mi did have the $$$)  then there are others, that tend to attract people who cannot wait t o see their return double, and gput their money in it a dem people deh want get rich QUICKER than those who invest in less risky securities arite, zilla gi an example bout weed man and jail you know how much man me HEAR bout  weh a juggle from floppy kill lappo and never get dem finger dutty yet. WHY?? caw dem well cautious, and dem nuh GREEDY you have some hurry come up now, who a try get rich inna dem first year and braps, beast 'suck' dem off. so if there is a lesson to be learned iya, and thank the father seh wi can learn it at others expense, is that whether you a big smuggler or street hustler, big investor or novice investor, it more prudent to take less risks and gwaan full yu basket wid 'one one cocoa' to avoid the pitfalls of risky choices a suh di ting set!! bless up!!!
Heh he, HL u quite correct. But hear weh happen now, nuff man join the hustling game beacuse dem see other man a eat a food and dem no kno weh di man go tru. Dem want to mek the money off the hustling game but dem to think bout the worst case scenario in di game. What if mi get ketch. Thats Y honestly, mi feel a way seh mi lose mi money but B4 mi join deh game deh mi did prepare miself mentally fi di worst case scenario. Same ting wid stocks mi lose half a mi money weh mi invest pon a stock from time to time. But in 2 weeks mi can double mi money sometimes. Dem reward yah come wid nuff risk. The major problem is man want to get rich quick without expecting pain and suffering.
The ting wid get rich schemes is that unfortunately nuff man get burn while a few get the soy milk and honey
Edited by zilla (04/11/08 08:26 AM)
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#91524 - 04/11/08 11:23 AM
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My comment was a bit short and come across as harsh but Humble Lion definitely expand on what I was saying with true words. You see a lot of the victims did not have the knowledge and expertise at investing and only see the bloated % return over the short period without seeing the risk/reward involved.
A distant family member try talking me into joining a CHURCH investment club once and the return was good for the first 6 months and despite that I refused, 7 months later returns stop coming in and they were looking to get their money back. The problem is the money invested as to bring in income to cover the % return promised and they were taking deposits and the return was not sufficient to pay everyone, now what happen people start asking for their money back and with the risk in the market sometimes some of the is money lost and the initial investment is not there to be returned in full. Sounds like cash plus on a larger scale to me.
I find the victims are always people who complains the bank does not pay anything on your balance and people who know the least about the various investment available to them and are unwilling to take risk and grow thier money over the long run.
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#91530 - 04/11/08 11:51 AM
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Carter after HL post, mi get weh u a seh. I was jubilated at the announcement the PLCA made about new sponsors, wen they reveal that it was cashless, mi heart did sink, eventhough i am a part of the scheme. I kno from the min i got in that it was not sustainable and its only a matter of time. So i was corcen abt the future of the league. I see redstripe not sponsoring the knockout, i hope is the RSPL dem considering.
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#91531 - 04/11/08 11:52 AM
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PLCA dumps Cash Plus published: Friday | April 11, 2008
Ainsley Walters, Freelance Writer
EDWARD SEAGA, chairman of the Premier League Clubs Association (PLCA), yesterday evening said the organisation has severed all ties with Premier League sponsor Cash Plus Limited, the embattled investment company which a receiver on Wednesday declared bankrupt and unable to repay investors.
Seaga, who negotiated a three-year, $150 million sponsorship of the Premier League last September with Cash Plus, last night said the Premiership would no longer be branded the Cash Plus Premier League as the PLCA has been left holding the bag with $26m owed to the league.
"We served notice on them to terminate the agreement," he told The Gleaner. "The decision was taken at Tuesday's meeting of the PLCA," he said.
"I made an announcement today that the league will cease to be known as the Cash Plus Premier League and I've written to the Sports Development Foundation, requesting emergency assistance.
"The clubs have said they can't complete the season without funding," he pointed out.
Increased woes
Cash Plus's woes increased ten-fold yesterday, less than 24 hours after a receiver declared the company bankrupt.
Acting on complaints from investors, the police raided the Norbrook home of chief executive officer Carlos Hill as well as several other premises related to the failed alternative investment scheme.
Hill, along with his brother, Bertram, were arrested and are set to face questioning today. Several high-end motor vehicles were also confiscated by the police.
However, Seaga said the PLCA won't be pursuing a lawsuit as it had threatened when funds were not forthcoming from Cash Plus.
"You can't have a lawsuit because it has now become a criminal matter, wiping out the civil action," he explained.
"In addition, we don't expect to get any more money from them as the statement says they have no money."
However, he was quick to add that the league did benefit from the sponsorship.
"We got $24m, which was far more than we received all of last year. In terms of that, we got more but not what they had promised."
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#91534 - 04/11/08 12:12 PM
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So who will step in and offer first aid to the NPL? Seaga ah no fool still. He went directly to the SDC soliciting help. Bruce, Bruce may step in and offer a couple nuggets of "gold" to resusitate the league.
Let mi see now:
Grace Kennedy, Jamaica Broliers (a nuff best dress chicken a eat), Sherwin Williams, BNS, yeah, how about Lee Chin's NCB or better yet, Bush Stewart chain a hotel dem. Rey nay, Gleaner company.
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#91547 - 04/11/08 03:14 PM
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#91556 - 04/11/08 04:45 PM
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I have observed 2 simple facts since I have been on this earth.
1- All financial instrument being pitch primarily to poor people are unsustainable schemes. Logic dictates that if these instruments were legit the promoters only have to offer half the return they are now offering and the financial market would lap them up. So why would the promoters take a financial hit by offering higher returns to financially unsophisticated individuals and also pass up the opportunity to hobnob with the upper crust of the financial market to dabble with poor people? They won't if they didn't have to, and the only reason they have to is because the investments are suspect or worse.
The first time I heard about these crazy returns I said somebody is trying to wash their money. Which is not all bad, since as long as they need to wash the money the returns will keep coming unlike other pyramid schemes that are dependent on a continuous influx of cash money to sustain themself.
I wish I was wrong and I still hope there is some remedy since many people I know got involved or were thinking of getting involved.
2- In corporate America, and probably workplaces throughout the world, stay away as much as you possible can from departments or assigments where it appears they are stackpiling their black workforce. These departments or assignments are usually the least glamorous, the most dead-end and expendable, meaning they are the first to be eliminated when the company cuts back.
Those are my 2 nuggets.
Pelapeppa, the Last Paragraph really hit home Iya. Fi real. Btw, didn't Enron do the Same or Similar to their investors?
Same final result in that they both went bankrupt due to greedy unscrupulous insiders and left their investors high and dry. The biggest and most telling difference is in their respective investors. Enron wasn't originally set up as a scheme, a few greedy, unscrupulous insiders took advantage of loopholes created by a sleeping and complicit accounting profession and inflated the figures in their 'audited' financial statements. Many investors studied these numbers and made what was suppose to be sound financial decisions when they decided to invest. That is a major difference from what appears to have befallen Cash Plus investors/lenders. I am not sure what basis these people used to determine that this was a sound investment, or one worth the risk.
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