Yeah. I think he resigned. That whole salary disclosure thing is something that was reported that Simoes claimed, but I'm sure there was obviously some other real reason. Maybe he saw better opportunities, maybe it is exactly what Zee said.
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Jamaica coach Rene Simoes ... First Published: Jun 01, 1998
Jamaica coach Rene Simoes has spoilt the country's ongoing World Cup party by admitting at the weekend that he will not be renewing his contract with the national side when it expires in October.
The Brazilian has reacted badly to newspaper reports which have questioned his salary after he led the Jamaican side to a surprise World Cup qualification. Simoes is disappointed at the attitude of some sections o the press and has pointed out that his wage is far below the average of his peers in France this summer. The timing of the announcement could hardly be worse as the island begins its final preparations for the World Cup celebrations to come next month when their side makes sporting history.
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If I remember correctly Simoes, quit after a number of threats and was even abused by Skill Cole after he questioned Skill's ability as a coach. After the Skill Cole incident I think he packed his bag and departed. How come the man dem no memba all dem stuff deh.
Here is an interesting view from Paul-Andre Walkeron the the present situation----
Burrell, the right man on the wrong track published: Thursday | November 8, 2007 Paul-Andre Walker, Staff Reporter
EVERYBODY WITH an interest in football in Jamaica is talking about Captain Horace Burrell and his new administration's plans to revitalise the national programme.
I am no different. Now, before I go into what my thoughts are on the issues that have come out of Burrell's one-man march back to the post of Jamaica Football Federation (JFF) president, let me first welcome him back to a position many are of the opinion should forever be his.
As president of the JFF, the captain has no equal and has undoubtedly played a major role in catapulting Jamaica's football to th it has attained, with the pinnacle of its success coming from its 1998 World Cup berth.
However, I am afraid that he is making a mistake at this point. Velibor 'Bora' Milutinovic, agreed, has had no impact on Jamaica's football since his arrival but I don't think firing him - and it looks set to happen - is the right move.
Cost of firing Bora
Firstly, firing him could be costly. With more than two years remaining on his contract, the JFF could be looking at a $200 million bill just to get rid of him. Then there is the bill that will come with hiring a new coach.
It has been widely speculated that the iconic figure of Rene Simoes is set to make a return, which means there will be another contract to deal with and another large sum for corporate Jamaica or the Government or both to dole out.
These expenses are going to be difficult to contend with and I gather the JFF's finances are not in the sparkling shape that has been reported in recent times.
As a matter of fact, the figure of indebtedness is quickly accelerating towards the $100-million mark.
With that kind of debt, how can the captain's first course of action be to spend more money, even if it is not the JFF, which will eventually foot the bill?
The other question comes from the captain's reason for firing the well-travelled, well-respected coach.
According to reliable information, the new administration feels strongly that 'Bora' has not done any work. I think they are wrong.
No offence to Crenston Boxhill, but I think 'Bora's' inefficiencies were his administration's fault.
Hamstrung by financial woes, Boxhill never allowed 'Bora' to do those things a coach does.
Firstly, we can count the amount of major practice matches he has had and we can further count the number of international players he has been able to put on to the field.
Local talent
While the coach did say he was going to be looking for local talent, I'm sure he had all intentions of trying to integrate that local talent with the experience and quality of overseas-based players. He was never given that chance.
As a matter of fact, the last three practice matches of any worth that Bora attempted to have played were cancelled.
Then of course, is the fact that the national team had no serious competitions to play, and this happened before Bora and was as a result of the flip-flopping of Boxhill's administration on whether or not Carl Brown was good enough to run the show during the Digicel Cup.
With all of this in mind, I still don't know what 'Bora' has to offer to Jamaica's football and with the captain's decision, I guess neither the nation nor I will ever find out.
The only saving grace of the decision is the appointment of someone that we already know - that is, of course, if the rumours happen to be true and I think they are.
We know what Simoes is capable of and he has done it here before, so it might not be a case of starting over with just two years to go before the World Cup.
However, we have to bear in mind the fact that last time out, Simoes had more time to come up with a successful plan. This time around it'll be much harder.
thats my thoughts on bora maybe we could talk to him and offer a new scaled down contract and see i do think he is good enough for the job. But i feel cpt dont want him one of the reasons beings that if he works out he would be someone that was hired by boxhill
in other words, lets continue to gamble with Bora? Are Bora's short commings so far really related to poor funding? Even if so, has he managed to place a professional stamp on the local players? Has he even spoken out about the problems the administration was causing him. Bora seems aloof. We all had questioned whether he was just fortunate with the previous teams who carried him to the WC?
in other words, lets continue to gamble with Bora? Are Bora's short commings so far really related to poor funding? Even if so, has he managed to place a professional stamp on the local players? Has he even spoken out about the problems the administration was causing him. Bora seems aloof. We all had questioned whether he was just fortunate with the previous teams who carried him to the WC?
Gizmo, you are spot on! It seems as if it is OK to gamble with someone else money as long as it is not yours. However, I don't believe the JFF should try to buy out Bora's contract. That would be too costly for Jamaica. If there is no way out, then put his A$S to work and monitor him closely.
I am not sure why the Ites are saying that it is too late to have a new coach. At this point Bora is considered a brand new coach - He has never coached the senior team, practiced with them, or even met them. So what is his advantage over a new coach? NONE!!! Ok...Ok...Maybe he knows our beaches and exotic drinks better. In this case Simoes has the upper edge over Bora on all the points listed.
Still, my first choice for the RBZ coach would be Johnny Barnes.
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Gizmo, you are spot on! It seems as if it is OK to gamble with someone else money as long as it is not yours. However, I don't believe the JFF should try to buy out Bora's contract. That would be too costly for Jamaica. If there is no way out, then put his A$S to work and monitor him closely.
I am not sure why the Ites are saying that it is too late to have a new coach. At this point Bora is considered a brand new coach - He has never coached the senior team, practiced with them, or even met them. So what is his advantage over a new coach? NONE!!! Ok...Ok...Maybe he knows our beaches and exotic drinks better. In this case Simoes has the upper edge over Bora on all the points listed.
Still, my first choice for the RBZ coach would be Johnny Barnes.
BM, I am not sure that the ites are speaking specifically to Bora being the coach of the Boyz.I think most people are concerned that we have an adminstration that is already taking over in the red and is about to compound that issue by buying themselves another debt.........Bora's millions. I have not seen his contract but based on what has come to light so far, Bora can win and then the JFF will be forced to pay not one but 2 coaches. Burrell inherited Bora and the office of the JFF, so if there is a way around Bora's contract then that would be great. Anyway you do not want to destroy the JFF by being reckless...........Bora might end up owning the JFF office building
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I remember b4 the JFF hired Bora, I said bring in barnes.. I get a piece of cussing. Chat bout how Barnes is a flop. And couldn't handle the ride at Celtic. How Barnes nuh know nutten bout management.
Personally now, I believe Jamaica has some many ballers in England and Jamaica capable of giving back and helping the Boyz. People of distinction and well respected. Robbie Earle. John Barnes. Viv Anderson. Ian Wright. Ian Goodison. Whitmore. Wendell Downsell. There are so many ite's on the forum who have coaching abilities, football knowledge and connections.
But that is the big problem I have with the JFF and Mr. Horace Burrell in particular
The closed door policy seems in effect to protect him only. And I cant be bothered to insinuate right now what he needs protection from.
Personally, I think Bora lost interest when he realised the administration was changing. But I was never a fan of his as I always felt his method wasn't progressing what was already built. His method was more about developing.
Hence I agree. The monies that Portia already put down fi Bora should be used for Bora. Just show the man some respect and request we adjust his contract for the benefit and in the interest of Jamaica, The Reggaeboyz and the fans.
I disagree to the max with this rubbish about the JFF being in trouble. The JFF during Boxhill's reign started on negative equity. And so he ran it.
Burrell will have us believe he came up with some small print to get around Bora's contract and a masiive payout. Yeah. Only Burrell could find such a clause. Everybody else ah eediot!! Kissteet!!
My POV is that Burrell already worked out the monies. He already done chat to Simoes and he has already cut some corners and stock up other things fi get the JFF how he wants it.
Whereas Simoes will concentrate on football matters, Bora will get in the way of Burrells runnings.. Hence he has to go.
And the total irresponsible comments of our media and especially Paul Andre Walker talking about
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As president of the JFF, the captain has no equal
Please... The question is will anyone ever get the chance again to prove such a statement.
We need to stop help the JFF push this rubbish about JFF in debt.
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Firstly, if Bora continues and the team lacks lusture and development they can rebuild the JFF coffers. That money is our war chest. B4 Burrel or anyone can tek money, money have to be there for the taking. Lets say that Bora stays, do we after 1 yr that he has sought to implement a system of play with either the youngsters or the experimental team? In fact Simoes was more vocal about the failings of the JFF than Bora is presently. Bora has said nothing. Even if he sensed that the admins was dying, why not say something then. If he isn't hungry for a win, will the team continue to be hungry?
Our internationals players seemed anxious, disapointed and mystified as to why they were not recalled for even one practice match. If Bora stays, what does he have to offer us now that he has not offerred in one year? Should we let him linger and let the program die a slow cowardly death? A coward dies a thousand times, while a brave man may become a hero. If Bora wants his job, let him fight for it in the press. Let him convince Burrel why he should be allowed to stay longer. Bora will do neither, b/c him have him long bag already
The financiers of the program need results to justify there contributions, the team needs confidence in their coach and we need to attract international interest in order to gain big practice matches and a good kit and advertising deal to make money. If Bora stays we still have to pay him the JA$ 200 million right. If they can get him to settle, lets say he takes $135, we get a coach for less money for a shoter period of time...we may come out even better than if we kept the contract. We are certain that Simoes will take less and we know that he has done it already. It creates a buzz and we use the publicity to harness our resources.
If we keep Bora, let be out of fear. Let it be b/c he has our confidence.
BM, I am not sure that the ites are speaking specifically to Bora being the coach of the Boyz.I think most people are concerned that we have an adminstration that is already taking over in the red and is about to compound that issue by buying themselves another debt.........Bora's millions. I have not seen his contract but based on what has come to light so far, Bora can win and then the JFF will be forced to pay not one but 2 coaches. Burrell inherited Bora and the office of the JFF, so if there is a way around Bora's contract then that would be great. Anyway you do not want to destroy the JFF by being reckless...........Bora might end up owning the JFF office building
Links, that why I had indicated that it may not be wise to do so because of the same reason stated. I am sure legal advice is being sought by all parties concerned. That's why there is no announcement made as yet. The worst thing is to have a TD that is not committed to our program but just here because of a major blunder on his contract.
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unless we bring back CB or give WD a chance, we'll NEVER have a TD who is committed to OUR program. most of these foreign mercanaries or TD's are only committed to a PAYCHECK.
