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#78391 - 11/03/07 02:50 PM
Re: We Will Know if We Are in Deep Doodoo With Burrell
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No secret and I doubt it stops there. I'm certain his eye is on the FIFA top job prize! I would be if I were him! 
Anyway, I just going to start a post with "First Order of Business" - fire whoever posing as PR & Marketing Director. While you getting games, training players, etc. make sure that people know who the players are and where and when they are playing IN ADVANCE. In addition, while you building academy, etc. try offering 'field trips' to spread the good word. Also, you want to make sure that your new Kit contract includes enough replicas of all sizes for the diaspora fan club. Also, make sure you bring back the etiquette classes as was in the days of Simoes for your players.
Message to the new admin, there are plenty qualified, competent, candidates for that OPEN POSITION in Jamaica. Just post the job correct and offer decent wages.
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#78393 - 11/03/07 03:15 PM
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I agree, we the public need to know what's going on, as often as possible.
I do place some of the blame on the Jamaican journalists, who in my opinion, was not aggressive enough with the Boxhill camp.
As for Captain, I would like to think success for him (in FIFA) will mean success for Jamaica and the Caribbean. Dome may call this wishful thinking......we just ave to wait and see.
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#78397 - 11/03/07 05:29 PM
Re: We Will Know if We Are in Deep Doodoo With Burrell
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But he's always been successful in his personal business and in FIFA, what has that done for Jamaica's football over time. Look man, we've wasted enough of Jagga's server space going over and over the mishaps, failures, questionable practices of all and sundry. If this new admin still has no plan of action documented we will spend the next four years repeating the same crap of how they have failed the Jamaican public.
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#78399 - 11/03/07 05:46 PM
Re: We Will Know if We Are in Deep Doodoo With Burrell
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if burrell doesnt make sure that bora uses a 100% foreign based team, Jamaica is dead
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#78404 - 11/03/07 08:23 PM
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But he's always been successful in his personal business and in FIFA, what has that done for Jamaica's football over time. Look man, we've wasted enough of Jagga's server space going over and over the mishaps, failures, questionable practices of all and sundry. If this new admin still has no plan of action documented we will spend the next four years repeating the same crap of how they have failed the Jamaican public.
I think I read where he said he plans to change the way he did things in the past......I believe it was back in the summer......So just like a whole bunch of people want to give Bora 3 more million US Dollars to "prove" himself, we can give Captain the ...chance....after all regardless of how it may appear, he was overwhelmingly voted back in.......so if he starts to exhibit the same behaviour, then we should truly challenge the Jamaican Media from the Journalists to the Editors to keep the pressure up, with as much transparency as possible.
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#78413 - 11/04/07 04:31 AM
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I think the simple minded folks that were clamouring for Boxhill, a traffic inspector, to run a big business should have enough dignity to refrain from pontificating about what should be done with the JFF.
It is already proven that you don't know what you are talking about.
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#78415 - 11/04/07 07:39 AM
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Chisel...Amen and so let it be. I would add bad mind, rumor mongerers and tear down artiste to the list.
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#78417 - 11/04/07 08:59 AM
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Boxhill: Divisiveness major failure of JFF
By Ian Burnett Sport Editor
Sunday, November 04, 2007
Outgoing president of the Jamaica Football Federation (JFF), Crenston Boxhill, has cited divisiveness among the football fraternity as one of the major failures of his administration's four-year tenure.
Boxhill, who will relinquish office to former president Captain Horace Burrell at today's Voting Congress in Hanover, was reflecting on his reign as local football boss in an interview with the Sunday Observer yesterday.
"I. believe that football. is not just about the team on the field, but the team off the field as well, and I'm a strong believer that the stronger the team off the field, the better the team on the field will perform," he said.
He added: "Try as we did over the last four years, I was unable to put together the strongest, most unified team off the field, which of course, includes board members."
After the first year of Boxhill's administration, there was talk of a no-confidence motion being brought against him, but it failed to be mentioned at the Portland Congress. A year later at Munro, another no-confidence motion was brought against the administration, but it failed to get the required two-thirds majority.
And the period was plagued with resignations and reports of factions and even after Boxhill announced that he would not be seeking another term, there were calls for his immediate resignation.
But the divisiveness of the fraternity is not the only failing Boxhill cited. He mentioned the falloff of the senior team in recent time, the early exits of teams and the inability to secure enough practice games, as well as not being in office to open the Football Academy in Malvern, St Elizabeth.
"As it relates to the weaknesses, the fall-off of the senior team, especially over the past two months, is obviously something we're not really happy about," Boxhill said.
"The early exit of our senior teams from the last Digicel Cup, also the early exit of the Under-23s from the Olympics and the failure of the Under-17s to qualify after doing well up to that point, are also major disappointments.
"The inability, for various reasons, to get more practice games, especially at home, for all teams at all levels, would have made a huge difference," he said.
Regarding the Academy, he said: ". There has to be a balance. The fact that we were able to secure the piece of real estate at Malvern, including the location and the price, and the fact that it was approved by FIFA, I think was a very positive move and a significant achievement.
"Having said that. I'm disappointed that through no fault of ours. this administration was not able to see it open in the first phase, but whether there is going to be one Academy or more throughout the island, then I am certain that this Academy at Munro will play a very important part in Jamaica's football development."
Boxhill, who has had stints as head of three parish associations, as well as manager of the Reggae Boyz during the Road to France campaign, said this has been his most challenging task as an administrator.
"I've spent most of my life in football, especially at the administrative level, but the national level has posed most challenging so far, and this of course had been expected, because there is no comparison between a parish or regional interest and the national interest - being parish president and chairman of confederation.
"As challenging as the period was though, I think there were some things that I am pleased about, and of course, there are things that I wish had gone differently."
Among the triumphs of the Digicel Cup in 2005 and the historic silver medal achievement by the Under-20s at the Pan Am Games in Brazil in the summer, Boxhill said one of his proudest achievements is the fact that the football fraternity is now forced to focus more on the issue of youth development.
"In the past, focus has been on World Cup qualification and related issues. This has seen qualification at all levels, senior and youth. Because of the effort of this administration to focus on youth and the local talent development and building the sport from bottom up, there has been more national reflection on this. It is probably not a resolved issue, but it has certainly forced the country and stake holders to think," argued Boxhill.
"Progress has been made regarding the development of local talent. It has not necessarily been smooth and has not reached the pinnacle of World Cup qualification, but through a variety of policy initiatives, much of the best of our local talent has made significant strides. A number of senior players have received overseas contracts and most of these were exposed through the 2005 Digicel Cup and by extension the 2006 CONCACAF Gold Cup," continued Boxhill.
He said winning of the inaugural Digicel Cup, with a heavy bias of local talent and the historic achievement of the Under-20s at the Pan Am Games are probably the two most outstanding examples.
He added: "The improvement in recognition of women's football, this has been the scope of the focus of the development of the local talent, this did not happen by chance. This was a conscious policy.
"More people are now watching, more media interested, more sponsors are now on board and more players benefitted. Players have gotten scholarships and are now blazing a trail at overseas colleges and setting an example and offering hope for more local based players. Women's football received the most sponsorship ever," he reiterated.
He also highlighted the deepening of the sponsorship support, not only limited to the senior team, but for youth and women's segments of the sport, and also at the club level. "Sponsorship is also an indication of the popularity of the sport and the return the investors feel they can get and the level of confidence in the administration of the sport. Confidence is usually an indication of transparency.
"Also policy initiative involving the local premier league, including the formation of the Premier League Clubs' Association (PLCA), a development, which potentially over time, I think can help transform local football, the change in league system etc, will bring professionalism to the sport," he said.
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#78419 - 11/04/07 09:20 AM
Re: We Will Know if We Are in Deep Doodoo With Burrell
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The captain had four years to analyse and generate ideas working with CONCACAF,let us be patient and see what he has in mind since he was successful when he was incharge. The people who craved for Boxhill because he was a grassroot kind a person should give their support to the captain and remember judge the man by is track record, character and vision.
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#78420 - 11/04/07 09:35 AM
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Boxhill, who has had stints as head of three parish associations, as well as manager of the Reggae Boyz during the Road to France campaign, said this has been his most challenging task as an administrator.
Not exactly true is it chisel. Yes. Possibly he was in over his head but he has more experience than a lot of us.
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#78423 - 11/04/07 10:18 AM
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Chisel...Amen and so let it be. I would add bad mind, rumor mongerers and tear down artiste to the list.
whats funny is that when yu see Mobydick upfront face to face he never ever mentions any of this stuff.
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#78424 - 11/04/07 10:25 AM
Re: We Will Know if We Are in Deep Doodoo With Burrell
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QUOTE BY Paul "Sicko" Reid From Ova suh
Congress up and running
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Congress started at about 11:00am and Boxhill left after making his presentation.
there was a nice moment when he left the head table and went over to Caotain in the Clarendon section and thyey exchanged a warm hug.
Pity the media was not able to capture it as the ridiculous rules of the JFF says the media cannot record what happens in Congress.
I asked Horace Reid to look into this as one of his first order of business when he gets in this week.
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#78426 - 11/04/07 11:52 AM
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Cho JT man...mi ave betta tings fi duh when I link up wid yuh and Chez. Plus all arguments are content led, we argued and discussed whatever came up.
But I have been consistent with my posting about mediocre Box Juice and him foo foo supporters and my respect for Burrell, both the man and especially his accomplishments.
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#78441 - 11/04/07 03:14 PM
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Cmon Chisel..
The real deal is that Boxhill was there bcoz pepes became fed up with the autocratic management of the JFF and the nonchalant attitude towards the Football. The conflicts of interests and lack of transparency. The waste of resources. The lack of football development. The lack of worthy JFF/football contracts. Apparel and TV.
Dont even make out like Burrell was experienced. Burrell learnt on the JOb. He had no one stabbing him in the back.
More to the point it appears that Burrell saw a business opportunity like Cash Plus have. Why would a person who was ousted and feel like he was stabbed in the back by his colleagues return to the same environment or job?? Why is Burrell so hung up on having the unpaid job of JFF president??
Either he really loves the presidency?? The JFF?? Jamaican Football or ???????????
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#78442 - 11/04/07 03:27 PM
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Trust Carter. Burrell is being judged by his track record. His character. His vision.
His vision was never about Jamaica being a world force in football. We would still be a force if it was bout his vision. Him being in Fifa's Concacaf office with connections could never stop a man with conviction.
His character speaks for itself.
His track record is good if you like mediocrity???
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#78444 - 11/04/07 03:47 PM
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Are you a mad person? SERIOUSLY. A man steps into the presidency of the JFF and says he wants us to go to a world cup and makes it happen and you say his record is that of mediocrity? I think that is the most misguided post ever on this board. Seriously JT, that is unreal. How many of us ever even dreamt about us playing in a world cup before this man?
Why do we have so much self hate as a people? Why do we always have to tear down anyone that breaks out and makes a good impression?
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#78450 - 11/04/07 04:05 PM
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Are you a mad person? SERIOUSLY. A man steps into the presidency of the JFF and says he wants us to go to a world cup and makes it happen and you say his record is that of mediocrity? I think that is the most misguided post ever on this board. Seriously JT, that is unreal. How many of us ever even dreamt about us playing in a world cup before this man?
Why do we have so much self hate as a people? Why do we always have to tear down anyone that breaks out and makes a good impression?
For the same reason everybody want to hang OJ after him get acquitted in '95. (cause there was a history of almshouse, him did have motive, and we find a bloody glove at the scene).
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#78451 - 11/04/07 04:06 PM
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JT. You seemed to be consumed with the fact that the captain,s business make some money off football. If your company did'nt make some money, you would not have a job today.
Not sure if you ever sponsor an individual or an organization before, but my business has put out thousands of $US & $Cad to various organizations. I get requests every week.
Yes, the first question I ask is "what's in it for me?" The usaul response is "direct exposure to their membership".
After I check things out and if I the potential revenue appears to be more that the cost(ie the sponsorship) and it is legal, then its a go. Mi haffi get it back plus more. I urge them to increase the purchases my products and services.
No company executve in their right mind is going to "give away" shareholders' money without being able to explain how it benefit the company "financially" in the long run".
Public relations(AKA sponsorship) is a part business my friend.
My main concern is whether the people running the JFF is accomplishing the tasks. I am not concerned if their business is making a profit legally. .
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