so how come after 1998 you don't give credit to clovis, carl...well, let me think of somebody.
ok...maybe you're on a roll, does this mean you extend your congratulations only to WD for his work with the junior boys after wc98 since I am not sure what Burrell did during that time other than sow discord?
If not, why not? What's the difference?
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Where on this site have I said that the Burrell led administration was a beacon of success. My problem with you guys is that you are all sickenly hypocritical with your treatment of the Burrell and Boxhill administrations. Excuses have been made for ever failure of this administration. Everything from them being sabotage by Burrell to them being given a bly because "at least dem a h try ah ting". Everytime their ineptitude rears it's head burrell gets the blame. Why is it that their failures cannot be addressed without Burrell's name being brought into the conversation. As sorry as the Burrell administration may have been they were no where near as inept as this current group.
The Boxhill group has not done enough work which merits the president going around with his chest raised. Four years after ground was broken for an academy we still cannot see a functioning system (academy). It took them over a year before the jamaican public saw the national team in a friendly at De Office. Claiming that they cannot make any money playing at home, this after they claimed that Burrel's group made all kind of money from games played at the De Office. IMO Boxhill is no different from a con artiste and the u20s success has provided him with the stage for him to do his three-card act and y'all falling for that crap.
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I was turned off by Burrell's apparent belief the the JFF was his to do with as he pleased and that he was answerable to noone. That might have been acceptable to me if the Boyz were doing something, but they weren't. They got to WC98 with the help of Simoes, but once that was done, the program nosedived. It almost seemed that once the program got its FIFA money the powers that be didn't care about anything else relating to developing the program. Instead, it scheduled a world of games (which is a good thing) that got us money and experience, but I am not sure where any of that went back into the program. All I remember hearing is about player revolts because they were getting paid....Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. I don't know what was being done to develop the progam. Yes, a junior program was put in place to help identify young talent (I assume this was planned when Simoes was around) and it got us to the youth World Cup shortly after WC98, but there was no follow through, just a push to get those players onto Hazard so Burrell brethren Reid could earn some transfer dollars. That's how it appeared to me.
I might be wrong, so you can correct me, but I am not aware of any investment into the program to further foster development of the youths and the program. Everything nosedived and there was nothing but player (not getting paid) discord and the run to England for UB40 strategy. All this while we were playing many matches which I would imagine was bringing in revenue.
After all that the JFF ended up owing Burrell..what was it...18 or 30 million dollars (JA)? O.k. I may have no place to say he has done something wrong, but that is tantamount to Cheney and Bush saying we have done nothing wrong (in the face of clear evidence that one of them a tell lie) but you can't ask us any questions about it. Just a little beyond the threshhold of acceptability.
So, for me, the train wreck seems to start with Burrell.
I do not deny that it has continued under Boxhill, in fact I have said that on numerous occasions. However, I concede that I did say - and, I believe, rightfully so - that I would give him some slack at the beginning since it appeared to me he was starting out heavily in debt. That was it. I think he has been ineffective as a leader and administrator, however, he was at least making an attempt to let us know what was goin on. I think for Boxhill, progress was extremely and painfully slow because he had no idea what he was doing. Still, he can at least say he has made some progress. He has had some great success with WD and some awful losses as well. Maybe I am overly optimistic, but I believe that there is a lot more to come and I think we will see it once Bora gets his act together. I think he is doing what he needed to do and the recent losses in Asia did not phase me at all. From here on in they might and probably will.
But you are here saying get rid of Boxhill the train wreck and replace him with Burrell the train wreck.
Burrell flash of "genius" was hiring a professional and experienced coach in Simoes. We got results while he was here (after a while).
Boxhill has now come up with the funding to do the same thing in hiring Bora. We have had some victories and some losses, but it is my feeling, and I suspect the feeling of many or most here, that we are on the cusp of something good. This Pan Am result under Boxhill's administration is a good result, just like we had good results under Burrell. What I do not like is the idea that after all his delays, just as it appears we may be on the cusp of something good, just as it appears we may be in a good position with coaches and some good young players in place, we have this upswell of apparent Burrell supporters calling for Boxhill (train wreck 1) out and Burrell (train wreck 2) in. In that case, it just appears to be people with an agenda who do NOT want to see this administration succeed, simply because it would mean their money train [wreck] would be out in the cold for a long time.
It appears to me sometimes you are one of those people because you have acknowledged that Burrell's administration was not a "beacon of success," yet you clearly suggest you want him back in November - which is your right.
I would support Burrell if I knew he would put Jamaica first, but I am just not convinced of that. Fact is, I don't believe I am a blind idealist. I recognize that people will pad their pockets, whether passively, actvely, consciously or subconsciously. Though I do not approve of it, I have come to expect it and accept it, just so long as it does not harm the program. No matter what the economical scenario (third world or otherwise) there is always a level of corruption we have to fight against, though we know it is impossible as a matter of practicality to wipe it out completely. Fine, as long as it does not have any real harm on the program.
I have not Burrell supporter because I was left with the impression that whatever he was doing was harming the program.
Boxhill might be ineffective and slow, but it appears movement is being made in the right direction.
Frankly, I would much prefer a third or fourth party, but since we are so entrenched in our two-candidate mentality. It's just so.
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Why is it that their failures cannot be addressed without Burrell's name being brought into the conversation
I think the issue is that you stated that you will not give the current administration any credit for any reason at all. Which is a bit, how should I say, strange. We are very vocal when they do wrong. We were vocal when Burrell did wrong. You are very proud of Burrell's achievements but will not give Boxhill credit for any success. Not fair. Your previous statement, "yadda, yadda, yadda, stops here" does reek of immaturity. If you don't like Boxhill, take a number. In any event, it matters not. History will show Burrell's administration led the Boyz to France, and Boxhill to silver at the PanAm games.
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