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#60659 - 09/01/01 11:11 PM Re: US - Bystanders to Genocide - in Rwanda
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As we await the starting whistle:

Nar, 'Clinton expressing outrage'. You know that is a joke. This is the guy who nominated his friend to a deputy position in the Justice Dept. and when the heat came abandoned her like she had leprosy. Bill was the Prez. who didn't do squat w/o checking the polls. At least Bush stood tall for Ashcroft and did not back down.

And that is the bottomline for the Bushes. LOYALTY. They demand it and expect anyone on their team to beat the same drum. Buffalo Solejah Powell seems to be upsetting the apple cart and that is a No No in Bushland.
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#60660 - 09/01/01 11:48 PM Re: US - Bystanders to Genocide - in Rwanda
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Originally posted by ddread:
I believe the dead can and should get a "kumba ya" but again I strongly believe the OAU,Africans, and black people in general need to be more active in these Africa related issues. Guidance take for instance how many people on this site respond to this thread? Why should I blame Clinton when the people who you figure should care the most don't really care?

Talking 'bout Rwanda, look at the Sudan. That genocide has been ongoing for quite some times but the neighbouring states are anything but vocal......

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Well Dread look at how Kenya acted:
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By coincidence Rwanda held one of the rotating seats on the Security Council at the time of the genocide. Neither the United States nor any other UN member state ever suggested that the representative of the genocidal government be expelled from the council. Nor did any Security Council country offer to provide safe haven to Rwandan refugees who escaped the carnage. In one instance Dallaire's forces succeeded in evacuating a group of Rwandans by plane to Kenya. The Nairobi authorities allowed the plane to land, sequestered it in a hangar, and, echoing the American decision to turn back the S.S. St. Louis during the Holocaust, then forced the plane to return to Rwanda. The fate of the passengers is unknown
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The colonialists know how to corrupt the systems in these countries. If a guy comes along and decides to do sumting for the people they arm a greedy one eye jack, promise him millions in a Swiss account if he leads a rebel group to topple the legit. govt. and it goes on and on. No justice no peace. They can always find a greedy scum, arms im to the teeth and let im loose to murda off im own people.

When will it end? Is every man for imself now Dread. Hopefully the anti-aparthied movement which gave the SAfricans the vote but not the gold was not the last united stand but the view on the horizon seems dim.
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#60661 - 09/02/01 12:14 AM Re: US - Bystanders to Genocide - in Rwanda
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While the RBoyz count sheep let me add this:

Dread say he cant blame Clinton while others who should care, didnt care. Not so fast, Bill was the man in charge of the Empire and yet while he pulled out all stops to make sure ONE woman was safe, he did NOTHING for 800,000 souls.
Oh I forgot, he had to put the interns thru their paces and inspect their thongs.
Who wants to be bothered, no court will take this up.
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As it happened, when the crisis began, President Clinton himself had a coincidental and personal connection with the country. At a coffee at the White House in December of 1993 Clinton had met Monique Mujawamariya, the Rwandan human-rights activist. He had been struck by the courage of a woman who still bore facial scars from an automobile accident that had been arranged to curb her activities. Clinton had singled her out, saying, "Your courage is an inspiration to all of us." On April 8, two days after the onset of the killing, The Washington Post published a letter that Alison Des Forges had sent to Human Rights Watch after Mujawamariya had hung up the phone to face her fate. "I believe Monique was killed at 6:30 this morning," Des Forges had written. "I have virtually no hope that she is still alive, but will continue to try for more information. In the meantime ... please inform everyone who will care." Word of Mujawamariya's disappearance got the President's attention, and he inquired about her whereabouts repeatedly. "I can't tell you how much time we spent trying to find Monique," one U.S. official remembers. "Sometimes it felt as though she was the only Rwandan in danger." Miraculously, Mujawamariya had not been killed—she had hidden in the rafters of her home after hanging up with Des Forges, and eventually managed to talk and bribe her way to safety. She was evacuated to Belgium, and on April 18 she joined Des Forges in the United States, where the pair began lobbying the Clinton Administration on behalf of those left behind. With Mujawamariya's rescue, reported in detail in the Post and The New York Times, the President apparently lost his personal interest in events in Rwanda.

During the entire three months of the genocide Clinton never assembled his top policy advisers to discuss the killings. Anthony Lake likewise never gathered the "principals"—the Cabinet-level members of the foreign-policy team. Rwanda was never thought to warrant its own top-level meeting. When the subject came up, it did so along with, and subordinate to, discussions of Somalia, Haiti, and Bosnia. Whereas these crises involved U.S. personnel and stirred some public interest, Rwanda generated no sense of urgency and could safely be avoided by Clinton at no political cost....
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