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#60425 - 12/14/01 12:07 AM
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ddread_dup1
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Bwoy mi cyaaaaaan't believe mi eye.
sanChez sound like a nasal-X commercial - sings too much in his nose, but to each...
"Man with the handle" sounds irie still.
So true Jt, Beres Hammond is the most significant reggae artist right now- by far.
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#60426 - 12/14/01 10:00 AM
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Bwoy, Shaggy jus when yu need a bibliography and index the most, on Sanchez, san-Chez fail to deliver, tsk tsk, mi affi learn how to put in smileys
have no fear still, jt the music connoisseur is always here. as to me, poor mi dead man pickney, don't have a clue bout jt's list, only know the bobo refer to im as one a di DJs im baptize inna "Repentance Time", bout djs cleaning up dem career
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#60428 - 12/14/01 01:16 PM
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Hey san-CHEZ, your arguement has a lot of truth to it from a English point of view. I couldn't say for America because I don't now much about how reggae is distributed there.
I saw Bere Hammond live for the first time in Miami at Wyclef Jean Spring Ting this year. I have listened to Beres' song and I always think is is very good and he sings and write songs as good as/better than any other singer/songwriter out there right now. The songs I heard from Beres anyone that speaks English should and would be able to understand.
So I have a question. Why is Beres Hammond not tearing up the charts worldwide when there is no doubt that he is better than Shaggy? Even Shaggy wouldn't dispute that.
But not even Beres alone, look pon Dennis Brown, Garnett Silk, Jimmy Cliff (he did well internationlally), even Buju's Til Shiloh album had some good songs in English. there are too many names fi mi even mention any more. To be honest, the problem with reggae is not even English, could be something else like distribution say.
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#60429 - 12/14/01 11:18 PM
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This one tame down a bit. Man get saff and mellow out. Interesting unuh. Conclusion, preserve the product (nuff patwa). You have two choices. If you want to keep the product restricted then continue the same way. But don't complain if another man (foreigner or yardman abroad) see the opportunity capitalize on it and bade in dollars. Or improve the marketing and promotion to push the music to higher heights. After all is not like Jamaica doesn’t need the foreign exchange.
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#60430 - 12/15/01 03:08 PM
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Wha yu a sey Shaggy... Amberlyque is your family... Know about 2 off his tunes still???
fi real ReggaeboyUK... Said the same in previous post. I was asking mikeu. He aint been back since.
Beres Hammond...yeah man... Came to England I missed him...Went to Jamaica...Missed his show... Went all the way to Barbados...Missed it again....But I have to keep trying B4 something happen to either of us
The only other person I missed and I would pay any amount to see him in concert is Bob Marley.
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#60431 - 12/16/01 09:32 AM
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"REGGAE GONE ABROAD" is a statement we hear regularly. How true this is may not be actually recognized, however, until one takes a look at a magazine like 'Riddim'. The genre's popularity is also highlighted by the presence of two festivals in Germany, Splash and Summerjam, which cater to 30,000 persons each.
This year saw several local acts visiting Germany for these festivals. Among them were Bounty Killer, Lady Saw, Ward 21, General Degree and Alley Cat. Riddim editor Ms. Kohlings pointed out that this year the festivals had changed their format to include more Dancehall acts due to the success of Degree and Chiko's performance at Splash last year.
Riddim features Dancehall and Reggae artistes both German and Jamaican. Two of the magazine's editors, Ellen Kohlings and Pete Lilly are at present in the island and will be presenting a lecture at the Neville Hall Lecture theatre today, as a part of the Reggae Studies Unit's series of lectures. During the lecture they will explain the dynamics of the popularity of Dancehall and Reggae in Germany.
Mr. Lilly explained that the reason behind the creation of the magazine was to communicate things about Jamaican culture from which Dancehall and Reggae are derived. "Many people like the music but they do not know about Jamaica and the circumstances in which it was produced," he said. The current issue features stories on Jamaican artistes such as Mr. Vegas, Shaggy, Elephant Man, General Degree, Morgan Heritage, with a major feature on Sizzla as well as a story on the history of Dancehall.Interestingly, the editors pointed out that much of their information was gleaned from the Gleaner web-site.
Mr. Lilly and Ms. Kohlings explained to THE STAR that they understood that Dancehall appealed to young Germans because it expresses the "underground" feeling of music that is outside of the mainstream. Mr. Lilly further explained that while Reggae had been quite popular in Germany in the 1980s not much was available about dancehall until Shabba's popularity heightened in the early 1990s followed by Shaggy's popularity.
Ms. Kohlings also said out that many German kids who grew up on Hip-Hop are now turning to Dancehall. She explained that this may be because Dancehall is much more participatory. Additionally, Reggae and Dancehall cater to every mood. "It is really important that Hip-Hop was there (Germany) first because through Hip-Hop people about black history, police brutality as well as misogyny and homophobia." This things he said desensitized the population and prepared them for Dancehall. Ms. Lilly added however that while misogyny and homophobia are accepted from the Jamaican artistes it is rejected when German Dancehall artiste sprout such sentiments.
One very important idea which 'Riddims' clearly highlights is that Dancehall is not just music, its actually a culture. It also points to the breadth of opportunity that exists for artistes outside of Jamaica's borders and raises the question of whether or not we are actually prepared to take full advantage of this, or whether or not this is another boat that will be missed.
Additionally, in our talks with Mr. Lilly and Ms. Kohlings the point was raised that foreign journalists in discussing Dancehall have named it Ragga, stating that this is a derivative of Hip-Hop. Mr. Lilly was quick to point out that while that misconception was widespread in the early 1990s many people have since recognized that rap sprung out of Dancehall. Nonetheless, it points to the fact that we need to be desseminating the information about ourselves rather than hoping that it is properly done by outsiders.
Despite this, 'Riddim' presents quite an interesting platform on which Jamican artistes can get the promotion they need outside of the island.
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#60432 - 12/16/01 11:27 AM
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good article
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#60433 - 12/16/01 02:41 PM
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Quote from article
One very important idea which 'Riddims' clearly highlights is that Dancehall is not just music, its actually a culture.
Therefore to change the music to English would mean it would no longer be authentic in other words it wouldn't be true to the culture.
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It also points to the breadth of opportunity that exists for artistes outside of Jamaica's borders and raises the question of whether or not we are actually prepared to take full advantage of this, or whether or not this is another boat that will be missed.
If you think Jamaicans have capaitalized on the opportunities out there for our music you are mistaken. This will not occur until we learn that importance of the business side of the industry.
Interesting though that The truth is out there but some just take a long time to see it.
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#60434 - 12/17/01 11:05 AM
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Positive stuff coming from that article.
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I check seh Chez thought I was going on offense a little bit. I was not.
