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#59686 - 03/02/01 07:37 AM HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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COULD SOMEONE SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS MATTER FOR ME.

Friday, March 2, 2001
A Lowe blow for Vale
By Michael Baggaley
Onandi Lowe's Port Vale career appears to be over
after the striker returned to Jamaica admitting he had
failed to settle at the club.
Vale were hoping to contact Lowe's agent today, but
hopes of salvaging the player's three-month loan spell
appear to be slim.
Lowe was due to miss the trip to Wycombe tomorrow
through a strained side muscle - an injury thought to be
the final straw for the striker.
Boss Brian Horton said: "This is something which has
developed over the last 24 hours and we will be trying
to sort things out with his agent today.
"Onandi was finding it very difficult to settle, it is his first
spell in English football and I think he was having
problems with the conditions and the pace of the game.

"I feel Onandi got frustrated because he felt he could have played better in his games
for us. I think with this injury set-back things have got on top of him."
The Jamaican's exit could not have come at a worse time for Vale, who face five
games in the next 10 days.
Lowe has started the last five games and scored two goals - a run which earned him
the nod over Stephen Brooker.
But now Brooker will step in as Vale bid to extend their five-game unbeaten run.
Horton added: "We will need every single player we have got over this period.
"But Stephen has been very unlucky not to be in the side. We have had the same
situation with Tommy Widdrington, but while the team is doing well it's difficult to make
changes."
Vale are hopeful Michael Walsh be fit tomorrow.
The youngster missed last Saturday's draw with Bury through a virus, but took part in
training yesterday.
But Allen Tankard who limped out of the Bury game with a thigh strain, is expected to
be ruled out.

PICTURED: Missing from the action...Port Vale striker Onandi Lowe

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#59687 - 03/02/01 08:10 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Hope this is not a case of Onandi can't deal with the running. Jugment reserved until I hear more
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#59688 - 03/02/01 08:22 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Shaggy,

maybe this would be for the better.

Boyd in my eyes has not improved as a player since moving to England.

And if all that running up and down is not Lowe's style then we have to respect that. The guy is great at what he can do, so changing his style of play is not gonna help him or Jamaica. If the place is too cold I wouldn't be happy there either. Yes it is the difference between a true professional and say a man that just look at quality of life, but his wishes and feelings have to be respected.

A player like Romario would not fit in the English game either. Certain players can't deal with all that kick and rush shite.... I believe Boyd might be our best example, the man look like him lose all him skill, all he does now is run around like a goon.....

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#59689 - 03/02/01 09:00 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Dutch: Your argument is definitely one to be considered.

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#59690 - 03/02/01 09:14 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Lowe has a problem, and until he admits it to himself he will always be a second rate player. He walked away in Mexico from a contract, he walked away from his own country Jamaica because he was upset with Simoes, he has walked away from his Jamaican club teams when he was not happy with things and now he has walked again. How much longer will we tolerate this type of attitude from him. I hate to burst the bubble of a lot of forumites but Lowe is on a very destructive path and I am not sure he is as good as we would love him to be. He acts more like a spoiled brat at times, and its time to change his attitude and play ball or get out of the game.

I am sure I will upset some of his fans, but its the truth.

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#59691 - 03/02/01 09:30 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Yes Jagga,

But it also is about personal happiness and comfort. Bigger and better players have walked away from clubs since they were missing something that made them feel happy or wanted in that environment. You know psychological shite, so we don't know what move this youth. It does not matter where Lowe plays, Port Vale or Rochester, remember the brother was on loan (a 3 month loan) so maybe him never like the place and him say f@#$! it, mi outta here....As long as him produce for Jamaica that is all we need to worry about now. If he walks out, he probably has no future in the English game again, but there is always the MLS, why not?

But, b 4 we start chat the man down. Maybe we should wait and see if this is a confirmed story......

Peace.....

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#59692 - 03/02/01 10:18 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Its is about time someone speak out about Lowe. He is very talented but needs to grow up. watching him in the Bolivia game i could see he was still the same way, nothing has changed. always begging for calls from the ref, not playing the whistle. He is a bigger than most of the football players in concacaf. ( remember ruud gullit (sp) he protected his ball very well.) Onandi needs to stop crying like a baby and stand up like a man (he have a tendency to fall over, for no apparent reason) If he iron out those kinks he will be unstoppable.
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#59693 - 03/02/01 10:23 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Hail...Jagga, Mi haffi agree wid you star. The big man is a cry baby, very indiscipline and nuh have no manners period. Sooner or later he will be on his way out. Mi hear man a talk bout if him did play fi Jamaica last wednesday the out come would have been better;but I tend to differ. Probably things would have been worst, he would probably have had a red card and get kicked out of the game leaving ten man fe struggle. I keep telling man seh this baby is going to hurt the team big and dem nuh believe me, watch it.

On the other hand, if it is a matter of seh him cannot take the conditions in England, mi nuh see nutten wrong wid him stepping still, because bottom line, your comfort comes first;but it is the way you deal wid the situation still that counts. In life you can be nasty but diplomatic still.

Anyhow, later Jagga and much respect as usual.

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#59694 - 03/02/01 10:37 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Arsenal London is now keen to sign Onandi Lowe.
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#59695 - 03/02/01 10:42 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Jagga I agree with you. Not saying he might not have a valid reason for QUITTING, but it still quitting none the same. He has done it before and his actions will continue to follow him. What's stopping a future team looking at him from saying, "he has quit other clubs before, Why should we take a chance with him ?" My belief Onandi Lowe is selfish. He thinks nothing of those who have helped him get where he is. They are many people that stand behind him but i think they get weary of his actions. He just leaves when the situation is not to his liking. He's a Child, a big man woulda give a reason for leaving.
Many of you will chastise me for those comments, but i know some of you feel it too. This man has so much talent but mi tired of seeing him waste opportunities to prove it.
As I did say when all the calls were coming in he should have went to BRAZIL. And i think he feels that way now.
Sometimes you have to accept your mistakes, if he thinks he made one going to Port-Vale he should've stuck it out. Instead the Club, Who took a chance on him since they have never seen him play is left scrathing their heads..


MY piece.

Iley Bless

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#59696 - 03/02/01 11:02 AM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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I agree with you 100%, He should have stayed for the full 3 months, then decides if he wants to stay or not.
IF he walks away it will haunt him for the rest of his career. Football is a Man's Game.
We have other players in the English League
that stuck with the climate and the pressure.
I spoke with Pepe after the Bolivia game, he said it took him awhile to adjust to the cold and rain, but everything is fine now. NANDY needs to give it more time.

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#59697 - 03/02/01 12:52 PM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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If Nandi wants to give it up, lett him. We don't have a say in it. In all our minds we think he should stay, if he wans to give up this opportunity let it be.

Also ANDY who said Arsenal want him?

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#59698 - 03/02/01 01:19 PM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Some of you guys are being too hard on Lowe, the man is hurt and with the cold weather it's going to take even longer for him to recover. It alway comes down to peace of mind and if he's not happy then he should leave. A happy man will play is heart out and excell but a sad man can not concentrate on the task before him. As for him being a cry baby please guys, it is part of the game that's how you get calls. Soccer players are the biggest cry babies out there, just look at the last world cup and you'll see a lot of guys taking dives and whining to the referees, as a result FIFA had to implement some new rules to curve this type of behavior, so stop with this whining business. Furthermore I wish more carribean/african players would bawl for more calls like Lowe.
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#59699 - 03/02/01 02:00 PM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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I disagree Terminator...

Man dem are professionals...They get monies a month some of us only get a year..

They are ambassadors for their clubs and some their countries.

One thing that will come out of this no matter how many Jamaicans are in England and much different we think from lowe,some of those people will not have a good thing to say about Jamaicans if he did jus UP & LEAVE.

I wont be his fault they think in such a manner but as One person has already said a less selfish person would of thought of th effort others have put into his achievements.

But if a man dont have no ambition their is nothing anyone can do to force the issue.

I remembered way back we had a discussion about professionalism.....So obviously monies dont make you professional.A sense of decorum,the right attitude,manners and diplomacy.Money cant mek dem ting deh.

I always as a likkle yute,used to think,what if the man you jus pissed off turned out to be the man you unknowingly had to approach for wanted/needed help!!!!!!!!!

But then from the report it sounded like he is trying to hard to impress.

So I will wait likkle b4 mi sharpen mi fingers pon this keyboard.
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#59700 - 03/02/01 02:10 PM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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There is one thing I can never understand with Fans,Journalist,etc....why when an athlete decides to leave a club/organization prematurely everyone 'shoot' him/her down justified or not!!! On the other hand clubs will just get rid of you without warning in numerous cases. In this case no one knows the full story so why unnoo start run up unnoo mouth pon de yout...im have all kinda short comings, maybe more than most of us....but if unnoo dat smart and professional gee de man a chance fe explain himself...or wait for the full story before unnoo bury im...mi a tell u bwoy!!!!!!!
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#59701 - 03/02/01 02:17 PM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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If this story true I'd leave too...

FYAH posted" Story about Lowe (from Homeview).
Fri Mar 2 10:35:38 2001


Lowe leaves Port Vale...club ignores points in contract
(Exclusive)
By Earl Bailey
HomeViewJamaica.com Sports Director
Mar 2

Onandi Lowe's Port Vale career appears to be in doubt, after the striker left the club in disgust, according to reports in the English media. Port Vale were hoping to contact Lowe's agent today, but hopes of salvaging the player's three-month loan spell
appear to be slim.

Lowe, who has started the last five games and scored two goals, and was man-of-the match in another, was due to miss the trip to Wycombe tomorrow through a strained side muscle Lowe's manager, Patricia Garel, confirmed that he has left, but shed a
different light to the story.

Garel, in an exclusive interview with HomeViewJamaica.com Sports, said many points
on which Lowe and the club had agreed, have not been met. "Lowe has tried very hard under adverse conditions and has been playing well, but many of the important areas on which we agreed have been ignored," said Garel. "The player has temporarily removed himself from the club until the situation is remedied."

Reports are that the player has been living in a hotel three-quarter miles away from the club's facilities. Housing and transportation have been ignored, and the player has been forced to walk from the hotel to and from training daily in knee-high snow in sub-zero temperatures.

A car and an apartment were intergral components of the contract, and they have not
been met after one month. He also walks to the club playfield on match days.

To put the icing on the cake, Lowe, who was injured in a game last weekend, has been forced to walk, daily, to the club, to get the required treatment. Manager Brian Horton told reporters: "This is something which has developed over the last 24 hours and we will be trying to sort things out with his agent today.

"Onandi was finding it very difficult to settle, it is his first spell in English football and I think he was having problems with the conditions. "I feel Onandi got frustrated because he felt he could have played better in his games for us. I think with this injury set-back things have got on top of him."

The Jamaican's exit could not have come at a worse time for Vale, who face five games in the next 10 days. Lowe is still in England.

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#59702 - 03/02/01 02:21 PM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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As the rumours continue

FYAH states '
Fri Mar 2 10:55:24 2001

Lowe to make U-turn

Port Vale's Jamaican international striker Onandi Lowe looks set to make a dramatic
U-turn and return the Second Division club.
Earlier in the day, Vale manager Brian Horton announced that Lowe had walked out and had gone home to Jamaica after failing to settle in The Potteries.
But last night Lowe's agent Pino Paglieri said that Lowe was still in the country and
that "some matters had to be resolved" between the player and the club.
Paglieri added: "As far as I am concerned he is still a Port Vale player and we will sort
things out over the weekend and he will be back at the club." '


Them better give the youth a place to stay and some transportation.....

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#59703 - 03/02/01 03:15 PM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Lowe leaves Port Vale
...club ignores points in contract
(Exclusive)
By Earl Bailey
HomeViewJamaica.com Sports Director
Mar 2

Onandi Lowe's Port Vale career appears to be in doubt, after the striker left the club in disgust, according to reports in the English media. Port Vale were hoping to contact Lowe's agent today, but hopes of salvaging the player's three-month loan spell appear to be slim.

Lowe, who has started the last five games and scored two goals, and was man-of-the match in another, was due to miss the trip to Wycombe tomorrow through a strained side muscle Lowe's manager, Patricia Garel, confirmed that he has left, but shed a different light to the story.


Garel, in an exclusive interview with HomeViewJamaica.com Sports, said many points on which Lowe and the club had agreed, have not been met. "Lowe has tried very hard under adverse conditions and has been playing well, but many of the important areas on which we agreed have been ignored," said Garel. "The player has temporarily removed himself from the club until the situation is remedied."

Reports are that the player has been living in a hotel three-quarter miles away from the club's facilities. Housing and transportation have been ignored, and the player has been forced to walk from the hotel to and from training daily in knee-high snow in sub-zero temperatures.


A car and an apartment were intergral components of the contract, and they have not been met after one month. He also walks to the club playfield on match days.


To put the icing on the cake, Lowe, who was injured in a game last weekend, has been forced to walk, daily, to the club, to get the required treatment. Manager Brian Horton told reporters: "This is something which has developed over the last 24 hours and we will be trying to sort things out with his agent today.


"Onandi was finding it very difficult to settle, it is his first spell in English football and I think he was having problems with the conditions. "I feel Onandi got frustrated because he felt he could have played better in his games for us. I think with this injury set-back things have got on top of him."


The Jamaican's exit could not have come at a worse time for Vale, who face five games in the next 10 days. Lowe is still in England.
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#59704 - 03/02/01 03:24 PM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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Sorry Dutchman.....neva say your post...unnu se wa me did a sey dough!!!!! a hope some a unnu nyam unnu words....a learn d secret of silence when unnu no now wa unnu a chat bout!!!!!!
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#59705 - 03/02/01 03:41 PM Re: HAS LOWE GIVEN UP?
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hey, when you have no information and you hear news like that you haffi wonder. Fans are much like like credit reporting agencies and credit card companies in that they they judge athletes based on their past behavior, and you nah get no credit if you have a bad track record. (and I know some a oonuh een yah know wa mi a talk bout). heh heh.

Nandi have couple defaults well pon fi him track record.
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