Invite them to Jamaica or have a likkle ting in US...I am sure other teams would join up jus for the preparations involved...
New Zealand follows Ja.T&T Dec 15
New Zealand on Friday followed the lead of Caribbean teams Jamaica and Trindad and Tobago, pulling out of an international soccer tournament scheduled for India in January, saying it had had difficulty confirming travel and competition details with organisers.
New Zealand Soccer said it had been advised by the Asian Football Confederation to withdraw from the Millennium Super Soccer Cup.
The national body said the tournament had been seen as important preparation for New Zealand's World Cup qualifying games in Auckland in June and it would now seek alternative warm up matches.
The All India Football Federation unveiled the Millennium Super Soccer Cup in August, saying Uruguay, Chile, Colombia and Cameroon were among 16 nations expected to take part. Games are scheduled for Calcutta, Goa and Cochin.
Jamaica were the first to withdraw citing the same difficulties with the organisers.
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Will all the posters who jumped on the JFF because they withdrew from the said tournament,please voice your pleasure that once again our administration has taken a leadership position and has made a decision which others have followed.
Firelynx... You are a mind reader, my brother... I was one of those who had asked our forumites why we were jumping all over the JFF without first knowing the full details.I hope the JFF critics are now satisfied .
What....Rubbish....Coincidence that this seems to be working in Burrel and Reid's favor....Wey mi say....A Buck up!!
All three countries gave different reasons for pulling out.Jamaica's was that they were unhappy with the organizers...(how vague)
Trinidad's reason was that it (the tournament) was to close to the qualifiers (more like certain players couldn't come so whats the point)
And New Zealand said they were advised by The Asian Football Federation,not India, to abort the competition.New Zealands reasons where more elaborative in the sense that they state why they were unhappy with the organizers.
Maybe Jamaica had a legitimate reason but my point is why do they expect support when we are not allowed any say or views in how they conduct the countries football business..(jus like the government)
What deadline did Jamaica have to finalize plans that other countries did not have? Why did Trinidad not pull out for the same reasons? Why did the Asian Football Federation not advise all the participants of the competition as they did New Zealand? Why should we be experiencing difficulties and other squads are not?
Thier are a few things that have not been disclosed but then if the JFF feel say we too dense fi know then a so.Them ,jus as the government need to move along or start managing as if this for us and not jus them.
If the competition is such a shambles why has this not been highlighted by our people.Why do we have to wait for (never vote for S.Africa,better at Rugby)New Zealand to highlight the issues????
And in what way is Bulgaria and Bolivia a replacement for the prospect of what that competition would of brought...???
Shouldn't we be playing teams that have something to prove???
Bulgaria still on the map??? What position are Bolivia in thier qualifiers?? How do fifa rate them?? Let me check.
cho....RC BC...and all that.....JFF...me nuh impressed......Just as a few ite's are not impressed with the team...
Nigeria who were African Nations Cup winners and Olympic champions are critisized to the max...but we have have only managed to make it to one WC..dare to question our so well organized and experienced JFF. Nigeria has the same problems as us but are more successful and have better players(mi nuh care who want vex) and Nigeria have realised that starting a league is hard and investing in local talent and local coaches is a key point of developing for the future..
I have been saying this from time and without qualification,jus common sense.What the JFF are doing is nothing but managing the national football teams.Club management if U ask me and mi not talking premier division.
What does Jamaica Football Federation mean to you guys????
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jt. Dont use your emotion and believe that by attacking the JFF. you accomplish any thing positive.you writing pure RUBBISH. Stop your personality business and deal with how we as fans can be of any help to improve the standard of JA. football. Why cant you get England to play JA. in our stadium? peace fr. dieharted fan
Pricisely the point laari...England naw play Jamaica...What will they gain from it...team in the top 15 to play jamaica who is rated 40 something....They see the reggae boys as a joke....Thats why managers chat rubbish like,give up your rights of playing for Jamaica and we will sign you...Not even the Trini players will hear that in there lifetime...
Only Jamaica will play anybody...
But yes I was trying to organise an event... Jamaica vs England All Blacks but its seems like I would have more luck getting thru to the CIA than the JFF.....But I will still try....
But Laari why dont you tell me how we can help the standard of football in Jamaica.. I am not attacking no one...I am jus speaking my opinion to which up to now not one of you JFF supporters can tell me what they have done lately...Months now I have been asking??
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I will not support JFF for the reason of personal gain but for the whole of JA. You live in Britain, get some help and organize three matches for the team with the top ten in the premier league and Scotish first Division. I believe after you accomplish that then you can state if Bolivia and Bulgaria are good side to play before February start of the second round.
Typical Laari.....I suppose we must leave PJ Patterson to do as he pleases..afterall we already vote him in to do the job,so now we must not talk or have anything to say with how he conducts business or are U jus displaying the usual pathetic epidemic diseased thoughts and opinions that tend to tell Jamaicans dem nuh have nuh chat...
Burell and Reid get paid to do what they should...regardless if I can arrange two games or not...It is thier job.
Trying to lay guilt on me will not silence me coz as Bob say U can fool some people sometime.....But not all the people all the time....hopefully U will see the light...But until then...I will still stand up for your right...one of which is freedom of speech.
Crazy baldheads.......
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You see the problem with some of us, criticize the whole operation of the JFF. what should be done,and never state clearly how can it be done? and also who can assist it. you in particular jt. have a genuie problem with JFF. but be calm my country man. I think that without proper overseas guidance in the way of financial,managerial,promotional and technical matters there are little we can do to advance to the higher standard,so think what you can do and stop the animosity or battering with words of the JFF. peace fr. dieharted fan
Hail jt. Why so negative man? The JFF is not the perfect organization but I don't think that you are giving them the credit that they deserve. First of all on the withdrawal from the tournament, the reasons might have been any of the ones given by the other teams or maybe all of them, namely they thought it was too close to qualifying,(I don't think Trinidad were concerned much about players not been available but about injury)the performance fees wasn't adequate, the organization was poor, etc. I know some people prefer big name countries to lead the way in everything, something's yes, but in something like this we don't have to follow anyone. I think New Zealand story is a little bit suspect. India is a member or the Asian Federation, which has to sanction any International competition in that region, so if they had a problem with the competition as New Zealand say they would of given the same advise to all the other teams.
Even if all the other countries had stayed in the tournament and the JFF had withdrawn us it would still be fine with me because I am confident that they had good reasons. You have to follow the Capt. because he is chosen by us, after all, the way that he or any other JFF head is chosen is a democratic one. Capt. B and the JFF are leaders and not followers. They lead us to the last dance and with our support they will do it again. Unlike politics the result in football are more evident.
jt according to the most recent FIFA rankings Bulgaria (54)and Bolivia (66) is ranked below Jamaica (46)so they might want to prove something which I doubt because friendlies are just that friendlies. Unless its against Trinidad or the USA, it doesn't count. Its is just an opportunity for the coaches and players to fine tune what ever they are working on. These teams Bulgaria and Bolivia are very good tune-up opponents for us because Bulgaria's style close to the European style teams (USA, Trinidad) and Bolivia's style is similar to the Central American teams that we will face in the next round. We don't want to play teams like Brazil or France at this time for the reason that they might annihilate us which would kill the player's confidence. Neither do we want to play South Africa, Morocco, England or Japan because those are team we could beat and the players might be too competitive which could lead to injury. Jamaica, I don't think, would give lower rank teams many opportunity to play us for the same reasons which teams that are ranked above us won't, the higher rank team has more to loose. Bulgaria and Bolivia should be better opponents. They play good football, they play contrasting styles of football, their players have experiences equal to or above ours and there is no significant rivalry that will lower the risk of injury to our Boyz. So once again the administrators are looking ahead and have scheduled some opponents who will help to give our team more experience.
Nigeria (the population alone should give them more to choose from) and no other country should be compared to Jamaica. We all have different strengths and weaknesses. Nigerian and other African footballers are, in my estimation, ten to fifteen years ahead of us in terms of experience on a professional level. They have been playing in professional leagues throughout the world for the longest. The quality of their football administrators now that is another story, I can't say that they are on par with ours, the JFF is more professional. Nigeria and other top African Teams regularly employ foreign coaches and nothing is wrong with it, if they cannot find an equally qualified domestic coach to head the national program, and are able to afford a foreigner. Nigeria's domestic league should be more organized than ours because obviously they have more resources, but I am not sure because I have not seen or heard from reliable source that they do. My Nigerian brethren says that they have many of the same problems that we do, bad pitches, unruly spectators, indiscipline players, inconsistent refereeing and mismanagement, to name a few.
Jt you have to stop comparing apple and oranges. Comparing the management of a Premier League Club to the management of our National program is just silly. If these Premier Club were not so insular and racist then they would give people like the Capt.; with his spectacular history of superior managerial skills and miraculous results the chance to show them how to work miracles. Most of these big boys you refer to, only survive because of revenue sharing from big TV. Contracts for rights to games. Why do they do you think the best EPL clubs now depends on imports?
Finally, jt I don't know if you only joking but if you are "a serious joke you a mek". We are in the final stages qualifying again for the most prestigious sporting event in the world. I don't know if you believe in Jamaica, but if we qualify again it will help all the people of our Island particularly our footballers. As you said your criticism of our Federation is your right. However we need to more responsible in our criticism. It just seems that certain people just criticize without knowing the facts. I myself might be naïve and you might be right about JFF been an incompetent organization but they have done much better than the previous ones and they keep getting better. I think it is too late to be second-guessing them now. We need to put all our positive vibes behind our Boyz JFF is our representative chosen in a democratic way. If things need changing we must get involved in the proper way, by becoming committed to the cause and this involves committing both our time and money.
jt one man don't make or break Jamaica PJ is not the problem. Partisan politics back stabbing and sabotage is. You know that many good ideas dont work if they don't get the proper support.
Man Firelynx that was a wicked post. I agree we must be positive and support the Boyz in their quest to return to the big dance. The management of the JFF might be inept but no one has put forth any arguments to convince me that they are. I would like for someone to tell me why Burrell should be removed from office. The only thing that bothers me about them is that they are dragging their feet in establishing a professional league and some kind of an academy for the young players. This in itself is not enough for me to call for their heads at this time.
Respect guys I hear you.....About the same time we got beat by Panama,ther was a lengthy discussion on the JFF,things to implement,etc etc...Resulted in a few people drafting letters to send to the JFF...On the other sites thier were similar issues....If you track back thru the past posts U may find them....The RBSC even set up a meeting with the JFF after getting support and sponsors...The JFF didn't turn up.That is why I may show a little disapproval of thier show(which flop from long time as far as I am concerned)
Honestly...If the JFF did something productive 2moro I would shout the loudest but I re-iterate my point...The JFF should be looking after Jamaican Football on a whole...They seem to be jus managing the senior team.No youth policy...No future ideas...No infrastructure of any kind...blah blah blah...Nigeria though they have more experience should also teach us...And that is my point.....They used to play as a team...now all are abroad.they cant bring no future talent bcoz they did not prepare well..(I am sayng this from an interview done at the Nigerian Football Assoc.)They want to bring in thier own coaches but cant...They never prepared....So the youngsters dont get trained by trained coaches but by make do coaches...Jus like in Jamaica.....We want to be successful,then we should invest and build jus as france did...
I cant see in what way I am bashing the JFF...or Burell or etc.Everyone seems to speak highly of what he has done but no one is telling or speaking of what he is doing?
So though apples and pears may be different they are all fruits.....I suppose thats how they always keep us quiet....Divide and conquer!!
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Yes Jt, I see where your argumentmt lies and I amd thinking along those same lines. The proposal to start a rigourous recruiting program for our youth football talent is lacking. I thought there was a blueprint for that program after Simones left so we could have football academies throughout the island. Where is the JFF on that issue? O.K no money, then use the supporters help like us on this forum and other forums. Where is the Marketing and Reseach people in JFF. Simply put, where is the VISION? Burrell and Ried use the money for personal gains and a grand headquarters and not the fundamentals of football development. If JFF reached out to us as supporters we would gladly give our imput and service but that is contingent upon the JFF and its managerial skills. Forumites ask yourselves "Are you satisfied with the Jamaican Football program?" If you say Yes, then the standard will never move from where it now sits. One other question I have also is where is the professional league we were promised less than 2 years ago? Thanks to the JFF but there is more at hand to be done. Complacency and mediocrity should not be our guage for success. I hope the best for JFF but they must improve for others and myself to bestow praises on the organization.
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Okay, I feel you guys but Grinds let's not accuse these people of using JFF $$ for personald gains. Let's face it, when the federation ran out of $$ during the preparations for the last W.C. Burrell mortgaged his bakery and loaned the $$ to the federation. Does this sound like a man who is all about himself? This was printed in the Gleaner so I'm not making this up. Be real, it take $$ and lots of it to impliment certain things and if they steal any of it the federation will sink. I don't know Burrell personally but the former treasurer(of the JFF) and I are from the same town in good ole St. Bess and in talking to dem man deh I have a good sense of what's going on. Trust mi, if I feel like Burrell and the others a thief $$ then I will be the first to condemn them. I agree wid di I dem say wi need fi move faster towards the establishment of a pro league and a youth system. First we need to look at the finantial situation of the JFF and the Govt. officials need to step up and make it happen. Those are the ones robbing the people dem blind, those are the ones that make me angry. Football is secondary to the welfare of our people and so let's direct our anger and frustration at who deserves it. I am not going to call for any more coilition on this forum but I will ask everyone to figure out what you can do for your country. If Bill Cosby's daughter can be down there campainging for Seaga then what are we doing. Where is our committment? I fully intend to do what I can in whatever way I can to make a difference. Let's get off a dis Burrell nonsence and making blind accusations and support our team. Until somebody ready fi go down deh and run gainst him then put up or shut up.
Okay mi get dat offa mi chest and a still one love.
The point being if one cannot effect change then no opinion should be made I find a bit ironical when we are told to vote in elections to voice our opinions.
But trust me....If I had backing I would not hesitate to do something.Until then,I will urge anyone to voice thier opinions...It's a human right.
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Jah B sound like yu have some connections still....What are thier plans for the future,forgetting about the economical implications? How do they see the future?
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Jt, I have not had a recent update since I did not see the man I spoke of when I was there in June. Anybody on the forum from Santa Cruz will know who I'm talking about but trust me when I hit Jamaica in march I will find out all that I need to know. Jt you are correct in saying that everyone has a right to voice their opinion but I'm sure you also know that we can actually beat a dead horse. I guess that we can't always agree and if we all agreed on everything then the forum would be quite boring. Nuff respect still JT, I man like di I passion and I would go to war wid yuh anytime because yuh nah give up pon no point.
