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#59002 - 12/06/00 12:13 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
jah b_dup1
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Okay Jt, here is a quote from your post
"Football is a sport,but also big business.We have to stop thinking small if we want to compete" You are absolutely right about this, and this means that we should secure the best deal for the interests of our country and our team. I am certainly not a foriegn mind but I know enough to know that we must creep before we walk. Before we can impliment programs to help our football program grow we must secure the proper funding. Now do you honestly think that there is a sporting goods company in Jamaica that can provide the JFF with a similar deal as the other company? and this has nothing to do with where the company is from. If there is such a company in Jamaica then I would say first prefrence should go to them. I am pro-jamaica and will support anything that will benefit our country but in this case it would not be in the best interest of the Jamaican football to accept less than what's available. We must move away from blindly Decrying everything that's not Jamaican, we must be objective and weigh everything so that we may select the best options for our country. I'm a motorcycle enthuist and it would be the same argument as those who say buy Harleys, (for $20,000),because it is American made, even though it is not of the same quality as the Jap bike that cost $10,000. Well I want the best value for my $$$$ and afterall it is all about the riding experience.

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#59003 - 12/06/00 07:02 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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Heh heh Jah B...Thats Y we must watch when we mek big speech...Easy Lyod...mi hafi big up ATU still....Though we may not have a sports company to enhance the Reggae Boys it is not written anywhere in blood or stone to say that a big name sporting company should advertise the reggae boys....And some of us quickly forget or humble beginnings....B4 we became a footballing example to the world we did have to wear boots till it mash up and socks with hole....Not that I am suggesting we continue with this practise but do we really need a new pair of boots or socks or shorts or tracksuit everytime we play...There are enough individuals never mind companies that can support the reggae boys gearswise for a year and the affiliated youth and women teams....And that is real...IT is not written anywhere that this same sponsor has to promote the Reggae boys much less the JFF...In fact the JFF should be doing this themselves...An advertising company can also do this....The australian woman team made a sexy calender of the team to promote themselves..I am not advocating we have nothing to do with foreigners or foreign.What I am saying is just as the australian womens team amongst others we must learn to be self-sufficient and self-reliant instead of sitting and waiting for hand-outs all the time(Jus as when things get ruff,de mans dem start bawling for more foreigners instead of thinking in terms of success breads success.We must stop beg..mek people beg we)

Uhlsport may be big but all now no one has mentioned any big dealings they have...That suggest they need us to big up them profile.they could be good for us..I dont know but thats what we thought about the Italians and Kappa.I think we should stop selling out Jamaica bcoz of dangling promises and money...And as young Peazy said..the gears naw mek we play better,so then the fact we can promote ourself and have done so for 19 how long then thats all we getting...GEARS...so while promoting our game promote our country and its businesses...

c'mon..we not talking mercedes and ford here...Jus piece of cloth and promises...We have nuff a dat in Jamaica....If I was running the JFF,I would of had an advertising and promotions agency incorporated long time....Lock off the carribean market and get ready fi conquer the world...chat bout...
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#59004 - 12/06/00 07:19 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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Jt, you make good points but why has no one in Jamaica stepped up with a proposal to do what you are suggesting. Heh, heh, heh, "big speech"? Come on Jt, do we even know how much $$$ is involved? I am not neccessarily disagreeing with your points but i just don't think we can write off any deal simply it is not Jamaican, this would simply be foolish. Like I said before, if there is something on the table from a Jamaican company then they should get first prefrence but we have no evidence that there is such. Heh, heh , heh, that was a good one "big speech".

Nuff respect said whey.

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#59005 - 12/07/00 03:30 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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Very good point ((JT)) the real winner will be UHLSPORT. They will certainly get much more advertising value & maybe additional contracts for additional teams because they are sponsering Jamaica. The same would'nt be said if they sponser Grenada..I am suggesting that they make the kits in Jamaica, we have the various tools & experience to do the job,you won't be suprise. Also if it is not done this time around, lets keep the idea alive for the future, never say never( Made in Jamaica ) .........to be continued
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#59006 - 12/07/00 09:57 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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yes JahB..i was talking bout myself..when yu use my big speech gainst me...lol...It's true..we have not heard of a Jamaican company stepping to the table...But maybe they are not even allowed thru the door...Them JFF guys dont talk to anybody mi hear...But ATU..I agree with U...made in Jamaica.
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#59007 - 12/07/00 11:39 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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True dat

It reminds me of those Yankee commercials from awhile back

"Buy American and Americans will work"

Peace

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#59008 - 12/08/00 08:30 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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JT Where do you live?
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#59009 - 12/09/00 06:39 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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GBritain mi deh lepimi....WHY?? what a gwan..
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#59010 - 12/09/00 07:12 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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Have you always lived there?
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#59011 - 12/10/00 11:02 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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Born here but lived in jamaica from basic school age....Yu still nuh tell mi what a gwan....Who a look fi mi????

A betta shine mi gun!!!!
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#59012 - 12/12/00 01:10 AM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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LOL. No JT no badda shine up di gun boss, a so mi know seh a real yard man! Nuff respec still. The thing is, I wasn't too active on this thread but what I was getting at is the same way it would sound stupid to you if I should tell you that you and your peeps sell out yard and neva give the Jamaican public/private sector your support by remaining there for school and work, but instead uno run gawn a England, it's the same way it sounds ridiculous to myself and others when you say Burell a sell out (paraphrasing you) because he should go to a Jamaican company and tell them to sponsor us and provide new gear for us (by the way people, gear is not pluralised to gears, it's still gear, don't mean to sound cocky or anything). The thing is JT it just wouldn't be as efficient and suplementary as would the current deal be. I mean I know Jamaicans need to help each other out, but come on this is taking it to the extremes. Hold tight mi broda anno badda shine up di gin. One blood, one love. Peace.
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#59013 - 12/12/00 09:36 AM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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I hear you Lepimi...

Life deal us certain cards throughout life.
I came to England on the back of an education I received in Jamaica.Of course if you had the same you would realise that this is mixed heavily with the Jamaican culture.The jamaican culture is not really to do with jamaica these days..it's everything else.

.We all have dependants.If you have to fly to the moon to support your family,do it.But for those who are more blessed with the chance of staying in Jamaica and making it,but do so at the expense of those who dont have a choice or are less fortunate of course mi bawl...MORE FIRE....

Not for one minute do I think Burrell is a sell-out and I have never said that.I can understand why individuals big him up for bringing Jamaican football into the real world but this attitude of praising until thy kingdom come is a habit and disease that must be treated before the island disappears.

We must praise Burrell,not for what he is doing but for what he has done.
Boyd...The same thing.
Whitmore.Seaga.Manley.PJ Patterson and the list goes on..Nuff people in influential positions live on bcoz of past achievements but are not producing a god damn thing at present...not that they cant in the future but now...nuthen naw gwan fi dem...How much of us would stay in our job if we were not productive.

Lipimi...I know it would not be such a lucrative deal if a Jamaican company took up the gears runnings...sorry..gear runnings(but then u never know)but thats the same chain of thought around kappa..big things a gwan we all shouted.

what really ticks me off is how we always get monies from deals but somehow we never have enuff monies to do anything and every game we are in a panic.we never seem to have future plans for any football developments.There is never a program to consult.It's like things are just planned on the spur of the moment.

A lot of you guys that big up Burrell would never plan or run thier bussiness in such a manner.

What is the big secrecy if this is such a lucrative deal.

A group of Jamaican companies I am sure would of loved to get more involved but to me the JFF seems so unapproachable...

I could go on & on,but I dont think Burrell is a sell-out.I jus think he has run out of steam and ideas.
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#59014 - 12/12/00 04:31 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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Well JT I respect what you say and it's your opinion - while I might not share it. But if we 'panic' when we have a game because of money trouble, and we have the sponsors we have now, imagine what would happen if we had a less financially suportive sponsor? What Burrel may be doing now might not be obvious to Joe Public, but many times it's things we don't see that someone does that actually takes the most effort - the behind the scenes job. I'm sure Burrel doesn't just go to the office and smoke a cuban every day. But as I said, I respect your opinion.
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#59015 - 12/12/00 09:01 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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Respect Lepimi....Nice if everything works out,but I cant see nothing happening except the usual wasting of monies.Then we will hear how ulsport bad.no one else has dumped Kappa I would say if we were thinking alike.
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#59016 - 12/13/00 12:09 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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Here is an idea. What if the JFF or someone ask UHLSPORT to sub-contract some of the jersey making to one or two jamaican companies. Maybe the JA company could outfit one of the youth teams, U17 or U20. UHLSPORT would still control the design, marketing etc., but a yard company would get some of the action. This company would then be in a position to learn what it takes to handle a team at the International level without having to come up the the $$$ for the whole deal. As you know we ha fi learn to walk before we start run. What do the ites think?
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#59017 - 12/13/00 08:53 PM Re: New Reggaeboyz Kit
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As usual Bars...good post....But Would the JFF go for such innovative ideas.....Thats exactly the point I have been making from 19 how long..
Everyday we discuss about playing with the big boys but we make no steps(crawls)to develop any part of our game(walk)but we spend a lot of money we receive to compete(run) with the big boys...

It all becomes a waste in the end because we all know its fact...You have to crawl before you can walk...

U JUS CANT BE BUILDING WITHOUT A SOLID FOUNDATION...lETS US STRIVE TO BE THE THIRD PIG....
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