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#58146 - 06/16/01 07:26 PM Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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If JFF and Oliveira expect to get to the World Cup playing like this I got news for them.

I seriously question if de Oliveira knows what he is doing, how long is he gonna sit back and watch Nandi Lowe take moonshot, and jog on the defensive end. Lowe was ready for a sub since the 65 minute, and Oliviera just sat back and hope the man can put one in with what would now be a fluke shot. Good coaches make changes that inject live into a team on the offensive or defensive side depending on the need.

I can't belief that the man just sit back and leave Lowe on for so long when he wasn't constructive for Jamaica in anyway, the brother can't finish and the coach is putting up with it, he brings in Hyde with 8 minutes left, with Jamaica in all sorts of trouble on the defensive end unable to keep ball possession.

I serious think that this man has no clue.

Nandi Lowe has not scored in the last three qualifiers he has started and has not been substituted in any of them. I doubt if this brother is the answer for Jamaica. He is the captain of the team and needs to lead by example and effort, and this brother is a joke when it comes to effort and finishing ability. The youth hasn't score so it is time to put someone else, yes he gets in positions to score, but he hits moonshots, so give someone else a chance.

Lowe will only score against minnows, against quality teams he just is not getting the job done, so try someone else.

How long is de Oliviera gonna wait till he acts? Jamaica is not dangerous on set plays, doesn't play any type of possession ball, there is no game plan to the team. Man just run up, kick the ball anywhere and hope to make an impact on the game. I serious doubt if this coach knows how to coach. He makes no changes that impact the way the team performs on the field, their are no practiced plays, no movement of the ball, no constructive runs around the player with the ball, the team just plays dumb, either a useless long ball or a crazy solo run forward by your backs that amount to no danger.

If the coach don't act soon, Jamaica will be singing the blues come Wednesday night. It is not about potential but about results. Nandi right now is hurting the team, he does not mark so other man are covering for him and getting caught out of position, making the team look short on the defensive end.

This is not high school ball anymore, this is serious WC qualifiers, but maybe this coach is prepared to take this ship with his unproductive captain towards the bottom of the table.

Later, I have a headache from watching the game. The team playing nothing ball, there is no concept to their play, none, nada.....

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#58147 - 06/16/01 07:34 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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#58148 - 06/16/01 07:34 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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#58149 - 06/16/01 07:37 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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chat bout... Still I think he is good but our opponents knows him as good as we do bcoz he doesn't move.

I have said this already and agree with you Dutchman.. Time for some tactical changes...


Forwards should be picked from Harris,Burton Fuller or Hayles...I think these four have a better clue about team work.
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#58150 - 06/16/01 07:47 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Guys, Lowe played great but the TD don't know what the hell he's doing for example the USA substituded 3 times before the TD sub. Also the boyz don't pass effectively or often enough plus they take too long to get their shots off. Lowe was the best player on the field period but should've been sub.in the 70minute.
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#58151 - 06/16/01 07:55 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Onandi was tired after the 70th min but he still played a good game. Nandi complains more with the referees when he is tired. Although it was 93 degrees, I thought Clovis waited too long to make a sub. He knows who can run/play for 90 and who is good for 60-70 minutes. I like Hayles, Hyde or Fuller as subs. but what we need most is player who can team up with Nandi to beat defenders until the midfield provides support, maybe Fuller, Bibi or Burton.
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#58152 - 06/16/01 08:00 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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How do you replace a forward who has done the bulk of your scoring with others who haven't demonstrated that they can score? Doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.
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#58153 - 06/16/01 08:08 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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TopNotch,

You're probably one that hopes that Nandi can learn how to shoot straight with consistency so that one of his moonshots can find its way into the back of the net.

When is the last time he scored against quality opposition? And don't tell me anything about Cuba.

Respect.

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#58154 - 06/16/01 08:12 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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I would not take Nandi out of the game but just get a fresh man on the field to support him either in midfield or forward. An attacking player sub in the 60-75 minute then a defensive midfielder after a goal is scored or in the last 10 minutes.
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#58155 - 06/16/01 08:19 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Jamatl, ya hopes de pon the wrong man.

Nandi kan't score penalty, what kind a support the man need. Him need bench. Moonshots na score.

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#58156 - 06/16/01 08:24 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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It doesn't make a lot of sense bcoz we haven't given the others a chance more than 15 mins.

Otherwise we force the ball to Lowe and start screaming.

There is absolutely no one who can team with Lowe. He is just an enforcer. Simple. One man band. When you want route one football yu call Lowe.Put 10 man to support him.

In fact, How many goals has he scored that matters.2 against Honduras.1 aganst St. Vincent. How much has he scored????

We have tried to force our way into Japan using Lowe.This is obviously not working.It's time to use some proper tactics.Forwards that can play together. I dont buy the Argument that only Fuller is a play maker.And we need Boyd.This rubbish of creating GODS is what is killing our ball.Recognise what each player has to offer and use it to create a team.One man alone naw do it.Harris,Hayles and Burton are no thrills forwards.These guys will find space if you are creating.Thats why Harris was there on the end of Gardener's cross.Thats not coincidence.And that is a goalscorer.Yu see how sweet he just placed the ball in the goal.Burton would of head that right cross the keeper who would of dived and pushed it out.Can bet mi guinness pon dat. Fuller is a good dribbler.Can create chances but I am sure these guys are low in confidence bcoz of the selection policies.They need to get proper practice games and more time in the real games.
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#58157 - 06/16/01 08:25 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Lowe while not being the most tactically sound or a tradition forward. He does VERY well for the team.
When talking about who has scored for us recently. Please note that we have never had a prolific scorer. Out of all the forwards that JA has Lowe would be the one to give the opposing defenses the most trouble.

I must agree about the substitutions. My only reasoning is that we were alway threating to score. I thought that we looked tired towards the end of the second half. With the exception of Lowe, Gardner and the subs

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#58158 - 06/16/01 08:31 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Wha?

Dutchie, gffe ferre sd aew reraafg erew afdre werwe sfdf werwer sfdswe weerrerwr gsdfswqr werwer ssfwrwr adadqewqe re.

That means you are a fu@cking idiot.

According to you all of CONCACAF is a school of minnows so Lowe is right where he bolongs because he scores against "minnows".

Jt, I agree that for tactical reasons Lowe could have been sacrificed because the US was totally prepared for him.

Lowe earned his place at the top of the pecking order and the incentive for the other forwards is to earn their their place
in order to replace him. Fuller earned at least 10 more minutes based on how he played today so I should expect him at the 60 min mark or before in the next game. Hayles, Harris, Burton ??? the jury still out.

Listen to this Bullsh!t. Harris not called in the 24 man squad. Boyd pulled an AWOL, Harris flown in on thursday and by friday he is king of the hill? We have known Harris since forever. Rarararaaaaa he gells well with Lowe... all of a sudden? rererrere Harrris, Harris, Harris is the man? and we found this out thursday? Our coaches should be fired on the spot.

Don't get me wrong, I like Harris. But the 2 players that the US know the most of our foward line are the MLS' HARRIS and LOWE. Pull a bra 'nancy and trow in Boyd and Fuller and make even the fans guess.

Now we are trying to make Lowe the scape goat?
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#58159 - 06/16/01 08:35 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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yes me brother preach on! Take Nandi out and this team is doom.....the coaching staff is not making the grade... we are far better team than the US just not well coached.
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#58160 - 06/16/01 09:03 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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DutchMan and JT, Listen up good! Nandi is the best forward that we have. He does not need to do all that running that you guys talk about. With all the running that Wolde did, tell me, How many shots did he take? Listen man, stop you foolish talking! Nandi played well throughout the game.

Fuller coming on was a good move by Clovis. Fuller should have come on a little earlier. Hyde should have come on for Withmore. Withmore was not in the game that much.

Anyway me stop talk. I man bex!!! Wi dash wey di game!!!
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#58161 - 06/16/01 09:07 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Unna,adepend on one man and it nar work. Take Man U. as an ex. when Yorke, Cole, Solsear or Giggs na cut it, the coach tek dem off and try different combination and bring in who ever has been droped for the last 25, 30 min nuff European coach have the same mentality. Mark u, Lowe can not carry the foward line by himself, him can play 90 min. Clovis fraid fe change him. THe only game we win, Lowe neva play.
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#58162 - 06/16/01 09:13 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Yow!!
Some man need fi chill out and watch and understand what a gwaan on the field. Nandi was our best player on the field and we need to stop dissing the guy. Who else posted the problems that he gave the American defence. He should have scored, but he was playing well in my estimation.
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#58163 - 06/16/01 09:17 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Mystic?

"THe only game we win, Lowe neva play"? Oh. you mean the on love we eeeeeeked out against the "Worst team" in the hex at the office with the lone goal coming from one of our defenders? that's a reason to bench Lowe? I would agree if you were going to put Marshall in his place.
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#58164 - 06/16/01 09:22 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Totatly agree for 70 min, him was the best player, but the last 20 min him couldn
t cut it so bring on the fresh man dem, Lowe can't do it alone. Me no say man a go vex butone man is not ateam.blessed.

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#58165 - 06/16/01 09:51 PM Re: Time to act otherwise Reggae Boyz doomed
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Yow remember seh Hayles an Harris start in Copa Caribe. Dat neva work. we have problems scoring but Lowe has been the most consistent steriker we have had in recent years. I mean for the national team and for clubs. Which other striker consistenly score for them club?? Burton...? Wolde..???

Di coach don't have much rpoven options other than Lowe right now im jus choking at the wrong time!!

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