It seems each and every player with some Jamaican link that plays overseas is being mentioned for call-up with "De Reggae Boyz". Whilst I'm with agreement with trying to get the best players performing for Jamaica,playing overseas whether it be in Europe or America doesn't guarantee that these players are better than the players that are currently involve with the program.
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you might be right. I think the overseas guys are a little more polished and a little more used to playing team ball. Not to take anything away from the people based at home. It's just that they grow up in a more professional system. There was a discussion a couple days ago about (football and social) culture, and I think that has something to do with it.
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Stop that Andy...stop it...We dont need NO...I repeat NO OVERSEAS PLAYERS...All we need is professionaly minded,skilled,team players...That are of Jamaican origin...This may include foreign based players but not overseas......The difference you may ask...Well that funky dreadlocks that dye him hair white and blue for the love of his club is an overseas player,whitmore is a foreign based player...Even Burton and powell can be considered foreign based....It's all about attitudes but also about us as a people developing the right phraseology also so as to create unity and strenght and not be as our foreparents and believe the false indoctrines taught...
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By the way the funky blue and white dreadlocks bredda is Johnson from Ipswich...But the colours wash out and turn grey jus like how his roots wash out...
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The reason Jamaican coaches are eager to call up foreign based players is because they are more tactically aware than Jamaican players who stay at home. Yes they might be more skillful, that is because the coaching for young players in countries like England is of a higher standard at the minute so players who are coming through now are already skilful so a lot of the work is on tactics and set-pieces etc. That is why Milton Griffith and Keith Kelly, 2 of Jamaica's brightest prospects have gone abroad, to learn more about the game and to become tactically better.
If this is true, then what does that say about the coaches back home? Let me also advise you Jamaica has three teams, that can do better today. I know of many former and current players today than can give our 11 a run for their money. The thing is they are fed up and are not playing NPL or A-league because it is of poor standard in their books. Imagine a man just look pon you and say you a nu no balla, when you have not even played a match or a SEASON. That has always been the coaches problems in Jamaica, hear say, and not provide the environment for players to shine at their best.
another example of an overseas player is Darren Moore of portmouth...How can he be even contemplating about monies and club or Jamaica....True he has to think career wise and about family but I ask if he was eligable to play and was important to England would they ask of him the same deal....Highest pay if you commit to portsmouth and drop Jamaica....In my eyes a true baller always dreams of playing in the world cup....money baller jus want get paid...Jamaica needs true ballers....
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jt, Darren Moore's contemplating whether he should play for Jamaica or grab de # an run is not surprising, Moore if I'm not mistaken never once kick a ball on the streets of Jamaica, never sat in the national stadium and watch teams like Barbados,Martinique and Surinam beat up on Jamaica. Never dreamt of performing at his best for the "Black,Green & Gold". Sir Moore, you're an Englishman whose parents (fortunately for you) happens to be Jamaicans, so tek de cash and run for you owe Jamaica nothing and we as yardman sudden expect anything from you.
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I don't mean oversea based players. I mean Jamaican players who plays in England (foreign based players). There are Theodore Whitmore, Walter Boyd, Ricardo Gardner and Ian Goodison.
We don't need players like Fitzroy Simpson, Marcus Gayle, Darren Moore or Micah Hyde.
Darren Moore is't a "Reggae Boy". He think money is much important than play for his country.
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Brush is probably referring to the games in 1990 when Barbados beat Jamaica at Jarrett Park in Montego Bay 1-0 and 4-3 on penalties at the National Stadium in Kingston after a 1-1 regular and extra time score.
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Hi, Jt, cool running, In my opinion, I believe you do not know any thing or your football knowlegde/ football psychology is very limited. no disrespect to the man as a person...cool. We need oversea/ foreign based players. Every good jam. players will eventually go oversea to play soccer. Are you telling us they should not play for jamaica or if their parent are jamaican and these players' royality are with jamaica, they should get up on their root/culture. Please Jt, free your mind. Remmber the song" the pot still boil a yard". Any player who want to play for Jamaica to allow us to get better, we should use their services. You are too negative...man. one love.
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Color Red, I think jt means that not all overseas players have the proper respect and understanding of Jamaica and our people. Sometimes when players are not raised on the island their attitudes become somewhat clouded.
That is exactly what I am saying Jamatl...Thank you...You see color red the same mentality some of these guys have you are expressing also..No disrespect either...You see as a yute i used to be that guy atownrudi described in another post...run the leather like mad...score goal yes but nuff pretti-ness b4 mi score...All pon the goal line mi a draw it back fi bruk a next man b4 mi score....I came to England & thought to myself..mi a go teach to bwoy at wembley how fi play cause thier best player was Garth Crooks and that Argentinian (cant remember his name alongside the other one that became coach...)They all played for Spurs dem days deh...thats when Jamaicastarted showing the games..But I soon woke up when I arrived....We cuss the way the british play...Long ball etc...Not that they dont have skill,it jus that If you want a job playing football play long ball like yu glad....Blackman over hear grow with racism...& so they live it...Thier attitude to life is different....You must of noticed a difference of the West Indians and Americans...???? Thier are people here who worship Jamaica...Thier are kids in this country who dont even have black skin but think to gwan bad is a jamaican thing....The first question I was asked when I touch down was..Yu have any spliff..only cause I was Jamaican..(I have never smoked in my life)But cut a long story...A lot of Jamaican parentage yutes only have one thing in common with Jamaica....& thats it..Jamaican Parents...Nuff a dem never visited Jamaica until them here say we soon reach world cup and then the vibe and unity already built is infiltrated and spoilt bcoz man start carry feelings fi other man and so it came to past in our last WC campaign... A lot of us shout it loud how we skilled...and can do wonderous stuff but please do believe that it was the team spirit that took Jamaica so far and nothing else jus as we start come good when certain man get kick off the team...(which I disagree with how they were kicked but I honestly thought most of them were shit)
But color red yu know what is more frightening is the way how we as a people always think everything foreign better than what we already have...(part of the reason why our country is in such an economical mess..)And jus to show you that I am not offended I would be one of the first to point out that my football knowledge and physcology is limited but I never professed to be a genius at nothin but I know a little of a wide amount of subjects and enough to make big opinions cause what is most definately constant in this world is peoples emotions....You dont have to be a genius to know if someone is giving thier all and why??
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Yes JT the other two Argentenian players are Rickey Velias and Oswaldo Ordelez, dem man deh wicked a dem man deh help Spurs to win FA Cup back then also a long ball specialist call Glen Huddle,from him stop playing for england thats when the long ball dont look so good anymore, the man dem now a days who a play fi england dont know anything about the long ball, if you wanto see great long ball is to watch Huddle and Crooks , huddle have some surgecal long ball that always find his man everytime, anyway soccer has changes since them times a whole lot and the game is increasingly becoming a close skills game, that was evedent in this years Euro 2000 were we all see Portugual dominated the tourni with the same brand of ball to foot soccer that Brazil have played for years , in this increasing skills oriented soccer world Jamaican soccer will only rise to the top due to the emphasys put on such skills in the backhome soccer camps,Color Red i see what your trying to say but i dont think you understand where JT is coming from but i will ne him respond , all i want to say is if the forign players want to come in and play for JA. then they will have to adopt to our brand of ball because the kind of ball that is being played on the club level in England and the USA are not kean on closeup skills and the international game demands this kinda skills , if you dont believe me watch the quillifying and see which teams win usually its the ones who have more players who have great closeup skills...peace..
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Hi guys, one love and plenty respect, I used to live in Egland and West Berlin, Germany Now I live in the US, My boys love football, I try to pass on my little Knowledge about football to them. All I am saying is this ....Every foreign based players bring something special to jamaica football. I let my kids spend their summer in jamaica ..if their mother allows them, I will sent them a school in Jamaica because I wnat to learn about Jamaica and their root/culture and its people. I want them to play for jamaica one day if they are good enough to play. I believe that foreign players bring more than just the long ball, what about playing the game full ninety minutes at a high level. There must be a balance between skill, knowledge about team approach and technically skill. We jamaica have the football skill, but we lack football tactic and team concept. It doesn't matter if we jamaica possess all football skills but fail to utility it in the proper way. I look at french and Dutch football. I believe that their games are a cross between the Brazilian style and the old British football influences. What do they( French and Dutch) have a excellent football program which is constantly producing great players. I saw on sky TV where the British are developing a new appproach to their football youngsters, and they adopt the brazilian influences/psychology to their games. That is why there are a large import of players from Brazilia to english clubs. I am not saying that Jamaica should take every foreign based players, but use the best players to help develop the physiology, mentality and physiology of the younger jamaican players. You guys please tell me why that most Jamaican players find it difficult to make foreign clubs. Guys, skill is only a small portion of the entire football game. we need every bit of appraoches to better jamaica overall football existence. love..cool running