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#55481 - 02/15/07 09:28 AM
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American black people are not ready to support any black person who doesn't have the history that they do.
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#55482 - 02/16/07 04:45 AM
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Geoff, your point is well taken. I think that's a contributing factor.
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#55483 - 02/16/07 04:49 AM
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Cruyff14, off the top I believe Mitt Romney has a diverging opinion on abortion. (Incidentally, I never thought to ask before ... perhaps it's located on another thread somewhere ... but how do you see the issue)
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#55485 - 02/16/07 11:17 AM
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I don't have time to draw race card. I am not a West Coast Ras! In America I am not only Black, I am a woman and an immigrant. Education, health and immigration are close to me. So I have to see where he stands on those issues. I know what's Hil's platform. I must go with who is QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED. Something Jamaica is not used to doing.
Princess since you are for Education and Health I dare you to point out a more pressing HEALTH situation as it applies to black women in particular and Black nation in general than the FACT that 50% of all new HIV infections happen in Black women.
Since unnu want to call out the Ras on race issue come stand in the fire and tell me if Miss Clinton is going to Address the high rates of black infertility from Fibroids and our poor eating habits that is now causing obesity and type 2 diabetes in our kids.
What education is more important than knowledge of self? Since all a unnu claim to be christians and can quote the bible no the bible tell us say wisdom is better than silver and gold and that a fool and his money will soon part so why when mi say man know thyself man and woman a carry belly?
The South Carolina black senators a do the same thing we have always done(tear down each other) its just that its easier to see others do it than seeing ourselves.
The true Democrat contender is not even in the race the man a promote concerts right now and a move wide of the so called front runners as he draws attention to global warming.
Obama moved too soon and like most black people in America him no know who him a deal with and so he is more likely to fail as you have to understand your opponent.
NOw look at how easy dem have most of us brainwashed on Hillary and we consider ourselves above average intelligent so can you imagine like Jahjesty say the hillbillies in the red states who love soundbites?
Unnu gwaan in the end the Race card whatever Shatta will be vindicated as always.
Why you think most ites stay far from my post dem now? They have seen it time and time again so dem try dem hit and run from a far and mi low them but if dem get too bright mi shot dem a cyber box fi make them know.
Watch the movie producer/concert promoter and if unnu think say him nah run fi the presidency unnu making a sad mistake. Unnu think say a Micheal manley alone and Seaga know the power of Music? Lick dem with the rod of climate correction mr Promoter a wah dem hear bout?
Anyone planning to see that Global Warming/political campaigning concert?
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#55487 - 02/16/07 12:21 PM
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Ring ding....all a unnu siddung and listen. Time fih yuh history class...
THE USA HAS ALREADY HAD FIVE BLACK PRESIDENTS.....
Obama Wouldn't Be First Black President
By Aysha Hussain
© DiversityInc 2007 ® All rights reserved. No article on this site can be reproduced by any means, print, electronic or any other, without prior written permission of the publisher.
You've seen the headlines: "Are Americans Ready for a Black President?" "Is Obama Black Enough?" "Obama: America's First Black President?"
Ever since the nation first met Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in 2004, his race has been called into question more times than Michael Jackson's. Obama is clearly a black man, but is this really a breakthrough? Some blacks say Obama isn't "black enough," which seems ironic because for many blacks, former President Bill Clinton was "black enough." In 2001, Clinton was honored as the nation's "first black president" at the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) Annual Awards Dinner in Washington, D.C.
Were there other "black" presidents? Some historians have reason to believe people don't really understand the genealogy of past U.S. Presidents. Research shows at least five U.S. presidents had black ancestors and Thomas Jefferson, the nation's third president, was considered the first black president, according to historian Leroy Vaughn, author of Black People and Their Place in World History.
Vaughn's research shows Jefferson was not the only former black U.S. president. Who were the others? Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge. But why was this unknown? How were they elected president? All five of these presidents never acknowledged their black ancestry.
Jefferson, who served two terms between 1801 and 1809, was described as the "son of a half-breed Indian squaw and a Virginia mulatto father," as stated in Vaughn's findings. Jefferson also was said to have destroyed all documentation attached to his mother, even going to extremes to seize letters written by his mother to other people.
President Andrew Jackson, the nation's seventh president, was in office between 1829 and 1837. Vaughn cites an article written in The Virginia Magazine of History that Jackson was the son of an Irish woman who married a black man. The magazine also stated that Jackson's oldest brother had been sold as a slave.
Lincoln, the nation's 16th president, served between 1861 and 1865. Lincoln was said to have been the illegitimate son of an African man, according to Leroy's findings. Lincoln had very dark skin and coarse hair and his mother allegedly came from an Ethiopian tribe. His heritage fueled so much controversy that Lincoln was nicknamed "Abraham Africanus the First" by his opponents.
President Warren Harding, the 29th president, in office between 1921 and 1923, apparently never denied his ancestry. According to Vaughn, William Chancellor, a professor of economics and politics at Wooster College in Ohio, wrote a book on the Harding family genealogy. Evidently, Harding had black ancestors between both sets of parents. Chancellor also said that Harding attended Iberia College, a school founded to educate fugitive slaves.
Coolidge, the nation's 30th president, served between 1923 and 1929 and supposedly was proud of his heritage. He claimed his mother was dark because of mixed Indian ancestry. Coolidge's mother's maiden name was "Moor" and in Europe the name "Moor" was given to all blacks just as "Negro" was used in America. It later was concluded that Coolidge was part black.
The only difference between Obama and these former presidents is that none of their family histories were fully acknowledged by others. Even though Obama is half-white, he strongly resembles his Kenyan father. And not only is Obama open about his ancestry, most people acknowledge him as a black man, which is why people will identify Obama, if elected, as the first black president of the United States.
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#55488 - 02/16/07 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Shatta_Cleve:
Princess since you are for Education and Health I dare you to point out a more pressing HEALTH situation as it applies to black women in particular and Black nation in general than the FACT that 50% of all new HIV infections happen in Black women.
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#55490 - 02/16/07 01:15 PM
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A lot of white people in America hide them black ancestry, from yuh look pan Abe Lincoln yuh si seh him have some black inna him. Black people should choose Obama over Hillary. Him nuh full Black but half black better than no black.
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#83739 - 01/04/08 10:18 AM
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Major result....NEXT STEP...
PORTSMOUTH, N.H. — The presidential candidates started arriving in New Hampshire early Friday after the Iowa caucuses Thursday night, where Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee scored victories.
Obama arrived in Portsmouth at 9:30 a.m. and held a rally in an airport hangar.
"My throat's still a little torn up, but my spirits are high," he said to a crowd of several hundred people, which included sign-waving supporters and many undecided voters. "This feels good. It's just like I imagined it when I was talking to my kindergarten teacher,"' he said — a joking reference to the Clinton campaign's claim that he wrote about wanting to be president in a kindergarten essay.
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#83744 - 01/04/08 10:50 AM
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"heterosexual couples are engaging in the same unhygienic practices
I just opened this thread thinking it was about Obama and happen to see your post. I can't bother to go back and read how we got off track, so somebody give me a quick summary.
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#83745 - 01/04/08 10:51 AM
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BTW, just got off the phone with a DC brother who claims gays and BOTDL are the reason. Maybe it depends on which part of DC! LOLOLOL
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#83759 - 01/04/08 01:05 PM
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BTW, just got off the phone with a DC brother who claims gays and BOTDL are the reason. Maybe it depends on which part of DC! LOLOLOL
More like which source: Barbershop/Hairdresser or the health officials?
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#83763 - 01/04/08 01:30 PM
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Bwoy this subject throw me for a loop.
Jj, Happy New Year boss. I hope you're still doing your thing with the youths on your side of the pond.
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#84522 - 01/11/08 06:34 PM
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CHARLESTON, S.C. - Embracing Barack Obama as his choice for president at a college rally here, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry said the freshman senator from Illinois offered America a unique opportunity to move beyond racial and political divisions and to unite behind common goals.
"Barack Obama can be, will be and should be the next president," Kerry told the crowd of about 4,000 people, who listened from an outdoor courtyard shaded by live oak and Spanish moss at the College of Charleston.
"Who better than Barack Obama to turn a new page in American politics, so that Democrats, Independents and Republicans alike can look to the leadership that unites to find common ground?"
The endorsement, which had been agreed upon weeks ago but leaked from Kerry's inner circle only hours before the rally, is expected to help Obama with fundraising. It is also likely to draw the support of elected official "superdelegates," who will have an automatic vote at the Democratic National Convention this summer.
The endorsement is widely viewed as a slap at former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, who was Kerry's 2004 running mate. The pair were considered a bad match by many observers, including some who felt Edwards never subordinated his own political ambitions to the Kerry campaign.
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#85661 - 01/26/08 06:52 PM
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COLUMBIA, S.C. - Barack Obama routed Hillary Rodham Clinton in the racially charged South Carolina primary Saturday night, regaining campaign momentum in the prelude to a Feb. 5 coast-to-coast competition for more than 1,600 Democratic National Convention delegates.
"The choice in this election is not about regions or religions or genders," Obama said at a boisterous victory rally. "It's not about rich versus poor, young versus old and it's not about black versus white. It's about the past versus the future."
The audience chanted "Race doesn't matter" as it awaited Obama to make his appearance.
But it did, in a primary that shattered turnout records.
About half the voters were black, according to polling place interviews, and four out of five of them supported Obama. Black women turned out in particularly large numbers. Obama, the first-term Illinois senator, got a quarter of the white vote while Clinton and Edwards split the rest.
Former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina was running third, a sharp setback in the state where he was born and scored a primary victory in his first presidential campaign four years ago. Even so, aides said he would remain in the race.
The victory was Obama's first since he won the kickoff Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3. Clinton, a New York senator and former first lady, scored an upset in the New Hampshire primary a few days later. They split the Nevada caucuses, she winning the turnout race, he gaining a one-delegate margin. In an historic race, she hopes to become the first woman to occupy the White House, and Obama is the strongest black contender in history.
The South Carolina primary marked the end of the first phase of the campaign for the Democratic nomination, a series of single-state contests that winnowed the field, conferred co-front-runner status on Clinton and Obama but had relatively few delegates at stake.
That all changes in 10 days' time, when New York, Illinois and California are among the 15 states holding primaries in a virtual nationwide primary. Another seven states and American Samoa will hold Democratic caucuses on the same day.
Obama took a thinly veiled swipe at Clinton in his remarks.
"We are up against conventional thinking that says your ability to lead as president comes from longevity in Washington or proximity to the White House. But we know that real leadership is about candor, and judgment, and the ability to rally Americans from all walks of life around a common purpose — a higher purpose."
Looking ahead to Feb. 5, he added that "nearly half the nation will have the chance to join us in saying that we are tired of business-as-usual in Washington, we are hungry for change, and we are ready to believe again."
Clinton issued a statement saying she had called Obama to congratulate him on his victory. She quickly turned her focus to the primaries ahead. "For those who have lost their job or their home or their health care, I will focus on the solutions needed to move this country forward," she said.
Returns from 95 percent of the state's precincts showed Obama winning 55 percent in the three-way race, Clinton gaining 27 percent and Edwards at 18 percent.
Obama also gained at least 19 convention delegates and Clinton won at least nine and Edwards two. Another 15 remained to be allocated on the basis of the results.
The South Carolina victor also gained an endorsement from Caroline Kennedy, who likened the Illinois senator to her late father, President John F. Kennedy.
"I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them," she wrote on The New York Times op-ed page. "But for the first time, I believe I have found a man who could be that president — and not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans."
All three contenders campaigned in South Carolina on primary day, but only Obama and Edwards arranged to speak to supporters after the polls closed. Clinton decided to fly to Tennessee, one of the Feb. 5 states, leaving as the polls were closing.
After playing a muted role in the earlier contests, the issue of race dominated an incendiary week that included a shift in strategy for Obama, a remarkably bitter debate and fresh scrutiny of former President Clinton's role in his wife's campaign.
Each side accused the other of playing the race card, sparking a controversy that frequently involved Bill Clinton.
"They are getting votes, to be sure, because of their race or gender. That's why people tell me Hillary doesn't have a chance of winning here," the former president said at one stop as he campaigned for his wife, strongly suggesting that blacks would not support a white alternative to Obama.
Clinton campaign strategists denied any intentional effort to stir the racial debate. But they said they believe the fallout has had the effect of branding Obama as "the black candidate," a tag that could hurt him outside the South.
Nearly six in 10 voters said the former president's efforts for his wife was important to their choice, and among them, slightly more favored Obama than the former first lady.
Overall, Obama defeated Clinton among both men and women.
The exit polls showed the economy was the most important issue in the race. About one quarter picked health care. And only one in five said it was the war in Iraq, underscoring the extent to which the once-dominant issue has faded in the face of financial concerns.
The exit poll was conducted by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International for The Associated Press and the networks.
Clinton and Obama swapped accusatory radio commercials earlier in the week.
The former first lady aired an ad saying Obama had once approved of Republican ideas. His camp responded quickly that Clinton "will say anything." First she, then he, pulled the commercials after a short run on the air.
Given the bickering, Edwards looked for an opening to reinvigorate a candidacy all but eclipsed by the historic campaign between Obama and Clinton. He went on the "Late Show with David Letterman" at midweek to say he wanted to represent the "grown-up wing of the Democratic party."
That was one night after a finger-wagging debate in which Obama told Clinton he was helping unemployed workers on the streets of Chicago when "you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart."
Moments later, the former first lady said she was fighting against misguided Republican policies "when you were practicing law and representing your contributor ... in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago."
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#85672 - 01/27/08 06:04 AM
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Now the media is trying to make it look like "RACE" race...just to show that how African-Americans can do when they get up off their butt and vote......Non- but ourselves can free our mind.
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not to mention that I am disappointed that as a black man he has the position and record he has regarding abortion(a problem that disproportionately affects the black community), and that as a man who apparently taught constitutional law for 10 years he has been so willing(even in his book) to 'interpret' the constitution in alignment with his position and support for roe v wade. I think most of the frontrunners(on both sides this time) have disappointing records in this area.
