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#55440 - 02/10/07 01:07 PM President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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Sen. Obama launches White House bid By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
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Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) announced his bid for president Saturday, a black man evoking Abraham Lincoln's ability to unite a nation and a Democrat portraying himself as a fresh face capable of leading a new generation.

"Let us transform this nation," he told thousands shivering in the cold at the campaign's kickoff.

Obama, 45, is the youngest candidate in the Democrats' 2008 primary field dominated by front-runner Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and filled with more experienced lawmakers. In an address from the state capital where he began his elective career 10 years ago, the first-term U.S. senator sought to distinguish himself as a staunch opponent of the Iraq war and a White House hopeful whose lack of political experience is an asset.

"I know I haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington. But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change," Obama said to some of the loudest applause of his 20-minute speech.

Obama is looking to cap his remarkable, rapid rise to prominence with the biggest political prize of all — the presidency. His elective career began just 10 years ago in the Illinois Legislature. He lost a bid for a U.S. House seat, then won the Senate seat in 2004, a relatively smooth election made easier by GOP stumbles.

In his speech, Obama did not mention his roots as the son of a man from Kenya and a woman from Kansas, his childhood in Hawaii and Indonesia or the history he would make if elected. That compelling biography has turned him into a political celebrity.

Instead, he focused on his life in Illinois over the past two decades, beginning with a job as a community organizer with a $13,000-a-year salary that strengthened his Christian faith. He said the struggles he saw people face inspired him to get a law degree and run for the Legislature, where he served eight years.

He tied his announcement to the legacy of Lincoln, announcing from the building where the future 16th president served in the state Legislature.

"We can build a more hopeful America. And that is why, in the shadow of the Old State Capitol, where Lincoln once called on a house divided to stand together, where common hopes and common dreams still live, I stand before you today to announce my candidacy for President of the United States of America," Obama said. His voice rose to a shout as he spoke over the cheers from thousands who braved temperatures in the teens.

"I know it's a little chilly, but I'm fired up," Obama said as he took the podium with his wife Michelle and daughters Malia, 8, and Sasha, 5, with U2's "City of Blinding Lights" blaring on the speakers.

Local authorities estimated the crowd at between 15,000 and 17,000.

Obama gained national recognition with the publication of two best-selling books, "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope," and by delivering the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in 2004 — the same year he was elected to the Senate. His optimistic message and personal story immediately sparked talk of his White House potential.

"He's young and he's fresh," said 22-year-old Rachel Holtz, a graduate student from DeKalb, Ill., who plans to work in education.

Brenda and Michael Talkington, who live near Muncie, Ind., said they have never been involved in a political campaign, but both were laid off from jobs with a lighting company and plan to volunteer for Obama.

"He makes you feel like it is possible to change things," Brenda Talkington said.

She seemed to be reading from Obama's playbook.

He spoke of reshaping the economy for the digital age, investing in education, protecting employee benefits, insuring those who do not have health care, ending poverty, weaning America from foreign oil and fighting terrorism while rebuilding global alliances. But he said the first priority must be to end the war in Iraq.

"It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of someone else's civil war," he said. He noted that he was against the invasion from the start.

Obama talked how previous generations have brought change — fighting off colonizers, slavery and the Great Depression, welcoming immigrants, building railroads and landing a man on the moon.

"Each and every time, a new generation has risen up and done what's needed to be done," he said. "Today we are called once more — and it is time for our generation to answer that call."

The Old State Capitol was where Lincoln launched his unsuccessful 1858 U.S. Senate campaign against Stephen Douglas with his famous "House Divided" speech. During his presidential campaign in 1860, Lincoln used rooms in the second floor as his political headquarters, and his body lay in state there in 1865.

Obama said it is because of Lincoln that Americans of every race face the challenges of the 21st century together.

"The life of a tall, gangly, self-made Springfield lawyer tells us that a different future is possible," Obama said. "He tells us that there is power in words. He tells us that there is power in conviction. That beneath all the differences of race and region, faith and station, we are one people. He tells us that there is power in hope."

Obama planned to travel throughout Iowa on Saturday and Sunday before a homecoming rally Sunday night in Chicago.

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Associated Press writers Deanna Bellandi and John O'Connor contributed to this report.

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#55441 - 02/10/07 01:37 PM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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Not a good decision...
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#55442 - 02/10/07 05:37 PM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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I only came on site 2nite just to see this topic..

Ok Princess... Elaborate...

I would say its more of a brave decision.. I mean I know I'm not the only one who expects him to be... anyway... I wish him the best of luck. Coz it would be a joy to see a black president in my time.
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#55443 - 02/10/07 06:23 PM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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I give him alot of credit for this courageous move...but I dont think he will get alot of support from his own party..I will be surprised if he is even nominated a the Democratic leader for the next general election.
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#55444 - 02/10/07 08:08 PM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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America not ready for a black president. They are more ready for a female president than they are for a black president.

If by some miracle he became president though he should take Chris Rock's suggestion and have a Mexican vice president so no one will try to assassinate him because when the Mexican takes over he would open up all the borders and nobody wants that.

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#55445 - 02/10/07 09:23 PM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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Originally posted by jt:
Ok Princess... Elaborate...
IMHO,
1) He's not experienced
2) He's no match for Hilary
3) He will hurt his future chances if he loses even at the party nomination level
4) As Technic said, America is not ready for a Black president, They are more ready for a white female president.
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#55446 - 02/11/07 08:31 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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I agree with Princess. I think Hillary will win the Democratic nomination. Plus, I believe there is a stronger urge to elect the first female president, as opposed another male, whether black or white.

Obama's background could also hurt him, as he grew up in Indonesia, a predominately Muslim country. We know how many Americans view Muslims since 9/11.

I read that people said Obama is the first black person to have a realistic chance of becoming U.S. president.
What about Colin Powell?
In 1995, when he was considering the presidency, Powell was leading the then President Bill Clinton in several polls, which doesn't indicate whether Powell would've been elected; but he was considered a strong presidential prospect.
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#55447 - 02/11/07 09:01 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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So what yu saying MikeU. Obama sounds to close to Osama.

But didn't Colin Powell decide against running for presidency??

America wasn't ready for the Iraq so called war but just as they handled it, they may just have to handle Obama.. Aint saying he is going to win, but I aint going to say he is going to lose either.
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#55448 - 02/11/07 09:14 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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. . .he's not running for President-he's 'running' for Vice-President at most IMHO. I don't see anybody beating Hillary on the Democratic side-she has raised so much money for Democratic candidates and has a built in 'Clinton' political infrastructure. I completely disagree with Princess that he hurts himself by losing the Democratic nomination. Hillary was taking her potential Democratic opponents so lightly that she jumped to the right of even Bush \:\) on War/national security matters-normally a very dangerous approach when you have to go through Democratic primaries. She figured that she couldn't lose to another Democrat and decided to try to immunize herself against the charge of being too weak(woman stereotype)to be President in 'these times.' Obama at least brings some interest on the Democratic side-I notice Hillary last week was backing away from her 'hawkish' comments about national security and saying if she had been President at the time she would not have started a war in Iraq. This is in response to Obama who can legitimately challenge her on her support for the War-unlike Kerry, Edwards etc. who tried to walk a tightrope between actually voting for the War and claiming to be against it. I suspect America won't be 'ready' for a black President anytime in Obama's lifetime so he may as well run now and if he does well and pushes Hillary then he can be a legitimate candidate next time around if Hillary loses the general election. I don't think losing to Hillary will brand him a loser.
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#55449 - 02/11/07 09:29 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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Bun a fiyah pan di b!tch hillary, better the half-black man win.
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#55450 - 02/11/07 09:58 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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 Quote:
Originally posted by cruyff14:
. . .he's not running for President-he's 'running' for Vice-President at most IMHO.
Maybe you didn't read this first line.

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Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) announced his bid for president
Only 2 VPs have gone on to be President in subsequent elections (Van Buren and Bush I).
What is his platform? Give us concrete ideas. He tries to be too middle of the road.

Him jus' no ready! Two years in the Senate, what has he REALLY done?
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#55451 - 02/11/07 10:01 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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Look at the other runners:

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Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware
Sen. Chris Dodd of Connecticut
Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina
Dennis Kucinich, Ohio Rep.
Bill Richardson, New Mexico Gov
Tom Vilsack, Iowa Gov
Sen. Clinton of New York
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#55452 - 02/11/07 10:29 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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Obama is appealing because he keeps intimating that he will bring new ideas to Washinton and he did not vote on the Iraq war; which is the most divisive issue at hand.

Having said that, I honestly don't think the USA really have the appetite for an African American / Black person in the WH. I think Sen. Obama do have the requisite skills to do a much better job than GW Bush though. But race is so institutionalize that the white voter will look the other way.

The other problem he face is, can black America trust him? How grassroot is he?

I see Sen. Clinton gone a lead with the nomination. Her strongest advisor is her husband who as we'll know loves the spotlight and will leave no stone unturn to get back in the WH. Look for him to pull out the Saxaphone and blow two tune, that send the black electorate wild. Standby!!
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#55453 - 02/11/07 10:37 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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What is his platform? Give us concrete ideas. He tries to be too middle of the road.

Him jus' no ready! Two years in the Senate, what has he REALLY done?
. . .well Senators in general don't often get elected President but who are the other frontrunners for the Democratic nomination-aren't they Edwards and Clinton? What has Clinton done since she's been in the Senate? What is her platform? What did Edwards 'accomplish' during his time as senator?
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#55454 - 02/11/07 11:50 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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Look for him to pull out the Saxaphone and blow two tune, that send the black electorate wild. Standby!!
LOLOL!! By any means necessary, you seh? \:D \:D
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#55455 - 02/11/07 11:56 AM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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So if it came down to Hilary and Obama, who would u guys choose?? Sounds like a few of you would pick the saxaphone over your own !!
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#55456 - 02/11/07 04:07 PM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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I don't have time to draw race card. I am not a West Coast Ras! In America I am not only Black, I am a woman and an immigrant. Education, health and immigration are close to me. So I have to see where he stands on those issues. I know what's Hil's platform. I must go with who is QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED. Something Jamaica is not used to doing.

If it was Powell or Clinton, there would be a hard one. Powell is more experienced in foreign affairs and I would give Clinton the domestic affairs (no pun intended ;\) )award. But as I am a registered Dem, well u know how that go.
Anyway, it's still a few months away. I will watch and see.

If she wins the party nomination, I will be anxious to see who she selects as her running mate. That, I believe, will be the issue as it may sway the undecided voters.
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#55457 - 02/11/07 06:19 PM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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I don't want to get ****ed into a political debate (at least at the present time ;\) ) but Hillary Clinton could not get my vote.

Several things rush to mind.

Where to start?

Senator Edwards was berated for his "lack of experience" as a one-term Senator ... let me ask... How many terms has Mrs. Clinton served in Washington? Did she hold prior elected office? How much credit for time served as a political spouse should we impute as political experience?

Obama has political experience at the state and local level as an elected public official before graduating to Washington. Further, on several counts he posesses a gravitas lacking in the disingenuous Mrs. Clinton.

Moving on ... what sort of experience is considered appropriate to ascend to the White House? I think some necks are buried in the sand on this issue. I can also see that some of our opinions have been influenced by popular media assessments that are not particularly insightful.

On the question of race ... the issue here (in part) is one of principle rather than fatalism or pessimism. I am thrilled that Obama is running and I refuse to assist his opponents in their agenda by using the same tool of his race as a weapon disqualifying him.

Can he run? Yes. Ought he run? Surely. How far can he go? Let's see. Join him in challenging America.

The crowd that turned out to see him in Springfield was an inkling of what an inspired America can achieve.

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#55458 - 02/11/07 06:35 PM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/firstladies/hc42.html

Hillary's bio fyi

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#55459 - 02/11/07 07:07 PM Re: President " OBAMA" it's possible......"OBAMA--08"
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Education, health and immigration are close to me. So I have to see where he stands on those issues. I know what's Hil's platform. I must go with who is QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED.
. . .what has Hillary done in the 4 extra years she has been in the Senate(as compared to Obama) that makes her so qualified and experienced? They're both members of the Health/Education Committee and one of the first issues Obama got involved with when he got elected to the Senate was immigration. The tasks a Senator undertakes don't indicate very much about presidential 'material' anyway IMHO, which is partly the reason that generally they don't get elected President.
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