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#34722 - 06/01/06 07:32 PM Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Ites, we have a ball game on Satuday morning and all this pointless chatter and finding fault will not help us to win it.

I won't be wasting anymore time with that nonsense prior to the game as it serves no purpose other than to kill the vibe.

So why don't the crew just refocus their attentions now on bigging up the boyz for this game and picking formations like good armchair coaches. (You can always reraise those biased and myopic arguments afterwards).

Dancehall a fullup, the early warm done, the youths and sistrens them ready fi represent, and the selector done have the neegle pon pause ready fi mash dung the place. hahahahah.

PRAM PRAM SELECTOR!!!! ....no, no, no...wrong one selector, we nuh ready fi dat one yet...no...the other one slector, the other one, yes....gwaan inna it....you READY.....

WE AGO SLLLEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW DEEEMMMMMM!!!!!! heheheh

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-----------Burton------Fuller------------
-------Hue-------Euell---------JCR-------
---------------Stevenson-----------------
-Reid----Stewart-------Davis-------Daley-
---------------Ricketts------------------


Burton/Shelton/Bennett to start, I haven't seen Shelton in a while so it is hard to make a judgment, Bennett may be better than him, but I don't know. I would go with Burton, though, since he has been scoring, he has Premiership level experience against the English players, he works hard, he is dedicated and he knows the players and the vibe.

Stevenson holding a defensive midfield position. His role will be very important in providing cover and watching the middle for attacks down the flanks and he would be the first real line of defense for attacks coming down the middle. 4-1-3-2

Don't know what the ites think, but I like it.



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#34723 - 06/01/06 07:37 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Nice try, shaggy
but bwoy it is not easey to pretend everything is okay when the man dem who is supposed to be assuring stability a f*ck up di ting.

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#34724 - 06/01/06 07:45 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Nice try, shaggy
but bwoy it is not easey to pretend everything is okay when the man dem who is supposed to be assuring stability a f*ck up di ting.



Stop try mash up the dance.
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#34725 - 06/01/06 07:47 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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I do move to second this motion, all in favor say "I". Ok, nuff i's left right and center. Resoultion pass.

Ok, which tune mi caan buss pon dis now. Oh yeahh....

" There is a Natural Mystic flowing through the air... tu dup do do."

Shaggy, I like your side with the exception of Stewart and Bennet can come on for Burton.

Let all just galvanize, synergize and stop with the passa, passa. Just think of the Stadium vibes with Metro Media and Sky Juice at the control tower.

Just saw the Jr. Gong promo on FSC and mi tun idiot inside the house.

Jamaica, Jamaica!!
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#34726 - 06/01/06 07:47 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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under the circumstances i would give Burton the run too as it might help to deflect any anti ub40 isms and sentiments that may be lingering from the dethroning of the king (then again it may stir it up)

Rickets needs the run to show that him is not rucks but watch him, if him slip sub him quick

mi a born reggae boyz fan from 19 how long. Haffi support. The bigga di fight di more mi deh deh, even if mi a cuss along di way, mi still deh deh. Bigups to all reggaeBoyz fan everywhere.

3 love inna dem an dem queen what's it nots it.

Fuller due fi mek him name as a legend in black green and gold. moment ripe.
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#34727 - 06/01/06 07:55 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Link sense an opening an him program fi mash up de dance.

The man's commitment to his mission is incredible. Come in like a suicide bomber to blurtnaught.

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#34728 - 06/01/06 08:01 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Originally posted by Tripeous:
Let all just galvanize, synergize and stop with the passa, passa. Just think of the Stadium vibes with Metro Media and Sky Juice at the control tower.

Just saw the Jr. Gong promo on FSC and mi tun idiot inside the house.

Jamaica, Jamaica!!


Fi real. Who would start in place of Stewart?
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#34729 - 06/01/06 08:15 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Come to think of it, who else caan play in his sted. Shaggy mi cringe when this youth tackle still but I really don't see a suitable replacement.
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#34730 - 06/01/06 08:27 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Shaggy, I man second your team. I would also start Burton and Fuller. We need the experience up front. Burton had a quietly good season as well. Him blood run black, yellow, and green. Give a run.
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#34731 - 06/01/06 08:30 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Come to think of it, who else caan play in his sted. Shaggy mi cringe when this youth tackle still but I really don't see a suitable replacement.


A dat mi a seh, we just need to hope that we don't get sued. My English brethren who I will be watching the game with done tell me already say anyhow we injure any of them players me and him a go fight. Mi have my ratchet ready. heheheheh
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#34732 - 06/01/06 08:55 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Shaggy, you notice how this thread nah get no play. The infidels dem just take a peek and go elsewhere.

Too much positivity on yah!! Get behind me Sat...n uba cuba, uba, cuba. Mek me sprinkle soo love portion on here.

Link em, a try mash up the dance but a pity em no know who a de promota.
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#34733 - 06/01/06 09:06 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Shaggy, since a you a the gateman, mi a go inna the dance but when yu si mi leggo, mek sure stamp mi hand yu hear sah!

Caw mi may haffi go over Link-on Road go duss out guy ova deh and come forward.

BLESS

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#34734 - 06/01/06 09:44 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Dont even think it matters who play. Just win.. Geez.. The last time we saw a win in England was against QPR..
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#34735 - 06/01/06 09:47 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Originally posted by BadRas:
Shaggy, since a you a the gateman, mi a go inna the dance but when yu si mi leggo, mek sure stamp mi hand yu hear sah!

Caw mi may haffi go over Link-on Road go duss out guy ova deh and come forward.

BLESS



bam! see it deh, you hand done stamp star, go over so go buy you drinks ticket and take it go over the drinks line. heheheh

we ago gi the queen all the love she can hangle, about three-love


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#34736 - 06/01/06 09:53 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Originally posted by shaggybear:
Ites, we have a ball game on Satuday morning and all this pointless chatter and finding fault will not help us to win it.

I won't be wasting anymore time with that nonsense prior to the game as it serves no purpose other than to kill the vibe.

So why don't the crew just refocus their attentions now on bigging up the boyz for this game and picking formations like good armchair coaches. (You can always reraise those biased and myopic arguments afterwards).

Dancehall a fullup, the early warm done, the youths and sistrens them ready fi represent, and the selector done have the neegle pon pause ready fi mash dung the place. hahahahah.

PRAM PRAM SELECTOR!!!! ....no, no, no...wrong one selector, we nuh ready fi dat one yet...no...the other one slector, the other one, yes....gwaan inna it....you READY.....

WE AGO SLLLEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW DEEEMMMMMM!!!!!! heheheh

Anyway:


-----------Burton------Fuller------------
-------Hue-------Euell---------JCR-------
---------------Stevenson-----------------
-Reid----Stewart-------Davis-------Daley-
---------------Ricketts



Nice line-up except for the fact that Burton is in the wrong position. Personally, I would play him in the crowd as a spectator and put in Bennett replacing him with Shelton with about 25 min. left to run at the Enlish defenders who sould be losing their legs at that point.
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#34737 - 06/01/06 09:57 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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Originally posted by BadRas:
Shaggy, since a you a the gateman, mi a go inna the dance but when yu si mi leggo, mek sure stamp mi hand yu hear sah!

Caw mi may haffi go over Link-on Road go duss out guy ova deh and come forward.

BLESS


"Leggo mi hand gateman mek mi come in, you luv brag and U luv show off...."

Yeah dance nice again.... woulda hole a big head and a guinness Joke ting!!
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#34738 - 06/01/06 10:06 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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"It is now decades since England could boast an unbeaten record against one of the major football teams. Thirty-two national sides have now beaten England in official international play, although that number is smaller by two if predecessor and successor nations are lumped together (united Ireland and Northern Ireland, on the one hand, and united Germany and West Germany, on the other).

Among European opposition, England remain unbeaten only against a few second or third level teams, like Finland, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey and Albania, the even weaker teams, sometimes called "minnows," like Luxembourg and San Marino, and teams they have thus far played only once or twice, like Ukraine. Turkey's status has risen considerably since England last met them in 1993.

Colombia is the only major South American team never to have beaten England, and they have seldom been among the first level teams. England have never fallen to African or Asian opponents, but perhaps that is mainly due to the paucity of matches against teams from those continents. They went down for the first time to an Oceanian team in 2003, when Australia won 3-1.

Scotland were the first team to win against England, in 1874 in the third international ever played. The other home countries were the next to beat England, Wales in 1881, Ireland in 1913 and, after Ireland was partitioned, Northern Ireland in 1923.

England first lost to a foreign team in 1929, when Spain edged by them, 4-3, in Madrid. Seven more Continental European teams gained their first victories against England in the 1930's, France in 1931, Hungary and Czechoslovakia in 1934, Austria and Belgium in 1936, Switzerland in 1938 and Yugoslavia in 1939.

England's post-war team of the late 1940's recorded some magnificent victories, but they lost for the first time to two more national sides in 1949, Sweden and the Republic of Ireland, which became the first foreign team to beat England on English soil.

Over the 1950's, seven more national sides were added to the list of teams that had beaten England, so many that the list no longer could fairly be described as select. Among them were five teams from the Americas. The U.S.A. beat England 1-0 at the 1950 World Cup finals in Brazil, the biggest upset victory ever achieved against England. Uruguay joined the list in a 1953 friendly match, Portugal in a 1955 friendly match, and the U.S.S.R. at the 1958 World Cup finals in Sweden. In a disastrous tour of the Americas in 1959, England succumbed to three more opponents for the first time, Brazil, Peru and México.

Two more national teams gained their first victories over England during the 1960's. Argentina beat England in 1964 at the Taça das Nações [Nations’ Cup] Tournament in Brazil. And West Germany finally won against England in a friendly match in 1968 after eight unsuccessful efforts, three as united Germany and five as West Germany.

During the 1970's, England went down to another three teams for the first time. Italy finally beat England in a friendly match in 1973, and in fact did it twice that year after eight unsuccessful efforts. That same year, Poland's victory in Chorzów helped to prevent England from qualifying for the 1974 World Cup finals. And in 1977, Netherlands beat England in a Wembley friendly.

Three more sides beat England for the first time during the 1980's. Romania's first win came in 1980 and Norway's in 1981, both in World Cup 1982 qualifying matches. Denmark's win at Wembley in 1983 stopped England from qualifying for the 1984 European Championship finals.

United Germany finally beat England in a friendly match in 1991, soon after Germany's reunification. The German victory was not given any special attention, however, for West Germany already had beaten England several times. In a friendly match at Wembley in 1998, Chile beat England for the first time. Finally, England lost to Australia for the first time in 2003"

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#34739 - 06/01/06 10:09 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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This scenario is prime for an upset. England cannot afford a defeat or draw psychologically against Jamaica going into the WC as one of the favorites. Consequently, if the game enters the 65-70 minute 0-0 England will be forced to make a psychological save face move by pulling keys players to absorb the negative vibes and critics. This will present an opportunity for Jamaica. The longer the game stays 0-0 the more impatient England will becomes creating lapses in concentration and discipline.

Game plan should be predicated on patience, organizational discipline and conservatism defensively. Offensive movements should be calculated and purposeful with spontaneous recovery.

Game plan should be deny, deny, deny.

For those predicting 6-0, 7-0 etc. Goals are not easy to score at the international level these days, even though there are exceptions. This will not be that type of game.

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The Top 20 Most Amazing Upsets of All Time
Ozren Podnar reports...
Greek win in Portugal the biggest stunner of all time
Greece are the reigning European champions. Artmedia Petrzalka and Thun are competing in the Champions' League. Once Caldas won the Copa Libertadores last year. Hello!? Where is soccer going? But, upsets are nothing new. There have been quite a few in history: Denmark won a European championships without even qualifying. Italy lost to Korea. North Korea. Albania stopped Germany. Steaua beat Barcelona in Seville by 2-0 and that was on penalties. Mechelen won a Cup Winners' Cup. Here comes the ultimate selection of the biggest upsets since the Second World War, according to the Soccerphile's jury!

Top 20 Greatest Football Shocks
1. Greece wins Euro 2004
It's been 16 months since the event and many still cannot believe how such an utter underdog carried away one of the biggest prizes in the world of sports. Without a single international star, with several good club players in Haristeas, Zagorakis, Yannakopoulos, Basinas, Karagounis and an extraordinary coach in Otto Rehhagel, the Greeks succeeded on the basis of tactical discipline, fanatical commitment and supreme fitness. At the final tournament they beat Portugal twice, and France and the Czech Republic between the two wins over the hosts. It was a miracle of miracles, but a deserved one.

2. Italy kicked out by Korea. North Korea. (1966)
Italy needed a point to reach the quarterfinals of the 1966 World Cup in England, but the Koreans, whose tallest player measured about 169 cm, won their only World Cup game at Ayresome Park in Middlesbrough. Pak Doo Ik was the guy who scored the winner and he got an automobile for that from the North Korean government. The Italian squad on their return to Rome met with a shower of tomatoes and eggs.

3. US beat England. Not in basketball. (1950)
England faced a US team at the 1950 World Cup in Brazil. Had it been a World Cup in basketball, well, the US would have been expected to win big. It was soccer though and an English walkover was in order. But, a group of eleven guys from the States defeated eleven top professionals from the cradle of soccer. Gaetjens scored the winner in the 38th minute. Borghi even saved a second half penalty from Stan Mortensen. However, only a few Americans know of this game, despite the movie, The Game of Their Lives. Too bad for them.

4. Denmark champions of Europe (1992)
It isn't that Denmark were bad, not at all. But, they were far from the best team in the final stage in Sweden and no-one counted on them in the first place because they had not qualified. Yugoslavia finished ahead of them. After the qualifiers, Yugoslavia fell apart and its remains, Serbia and Montenegro, earned themselves severe UN sanctions over the war in Bosnia. UEFA was forced to follow suit kicking out the rump-Yugoslavia and bringing in Denmark instead. With a week's worth of preparations, without their top player Michael Laudrup at odds with coach Möller-Nielsen, the Danes started poorly, but picked up and went on to beat France, Holland and finally the world champions Germany.

5. Uruguay on top of the World (1950)
Maybe Uruguay would have been the favourites on their soil, but not at a Brazilian World Cup. During the tournament, Brazil had been running riot (4-0 against Mexico, 6-1 against Spain, 7-1 against Sweden) while Uruguay were barely scraping through. In the decider the hosts, with 200,000 fans behind them, needed just a point to finish as winners. They were even 1-0 up midway through the second half. But, the visitors turned the things around to 1-2 causing a ghastly silence at Maracaná.

6. Albania stops West Germany (1967)
In the qualifiers for Euro 1967 West Germany, World Cup runners-up, had to beat Albania in Tirana to qualify ahead of Yugoslavia. They had already beaten the Albanians 6-0 so there was no question how the game would end. Amazingly, Albania held on to a 0-0 draw playing for mere prestige, unless then friendly neighbouring socialist countries had arranged a bonus or something.

7. Once Caldas win Copa Libertadores (2004)
* Boca Juniors play Once Caldas in the Copa Libertadores finals.
* Who?
* On-ce Cal-das.
* Ok. Let us know by how many goals Boca won, because Boca are five times South American champions, and we don't know about Once Caldas.
* Ok.
* So, what was the score?
* Once Caldas won.
* Who?
* On-ce Cal-das, of Colombia.
* But it's unbelievable!
* So it is.

8. Artmedia 5-0 Celtic (2005)
Artmedia Petrzalka. Slovakian champions. The Scots must have been laughing their heads off when they drew this team in the second preliminary round of the 2005/06 Champions League. Then they lost to them in Bratislava by five goals to nil. Artmedia later knocked out Partizan Belgrade and went on to beat Porto by 3-2 away from home. Their future wins will not cause any more surprise, but that 5-0 against Celtic was the big summer story of 2005.

9. Steaua wins Champions Cup (1986)
Barcelona had never been European champions but surely they were going to be now. The finals was played in Seville and the 60,000 crowd at Sanchez Pizjuan stood firmly behind Barcelona. But, the arrogant Spaniards underestimated the Romanian army team, backed by Valentin Ceausescu, the more normal of dictator Nicolae's two sons. Steaua played it safe for 120 minutes waiting for the penalty shootout, where Helmut Duckadam performed some magic tricks by stopping all four Barça's penalties. The final result was 2-0 for Steaua and Bucharest saw the biggest celebrations until the 1989 revolution.

10. Faroe Islands drown Austria (1990)
Tiny Faroe Islands played their first competitive game on September 12th 1990 against Austria. They received the Austrians in Landskrona, Sweden, as there were no playable pitches in the Faroe Islands. The best known man in their national team was the Dane Alan Simonsen, 1977 Golden Ball winner. The Faroes beat Austria by 1-0, although Simonsen was just the coach.

11. Sunderland 1-0 Leeds (1973)
Sunderland, a 250-1 pre-tournament underdog, pulled off the biggest upset in FA Cup history by coming out of the Second Division to beat the defending champions Leeds United 1-0. Sunderland were the first Second Division team to win the trophy for 42 years and their achievement was all the greater for being achieved against a terrific, all-conquering Don Revie's side containing 11 internationals.

12. Mechelen win the Cup Winners' Cup (1988)
In the mid-eighties tycoon John Cordier took over this small Belgian provincial side, injecting several dozen million dollars into the team. It was wonderful because Mechelen recruited internationals from all over the place and went straight to the top of Belgian and European soccer. In their first ever appearance, they won the trophy without a defeat, beating Ajax in the finals 1-0. Soon the European Supercup followed to the small stadium romantically named Behind the Barracks. A few years later Cordier decided the deal was not paying off. Today, Mechelen are a respectable third-division side.

13. UEFA Cup to Galatasaray (2000)
Turkish grounds are hot and the red-and-yellow stripes on Galatasaray's shirts reflect the fire burning in fans' hearts on Ali Sami Yen stadium. Still, "Gala" did not look like a cup-winning material when Chelsea beat them 5-0 away early in the season. Worse, Milan were winning by 2-1 in the decisive game for a UEFA Cup place with ten minutes to go. Then "Gala" sensationally turned the score to 3-2 to stay in Europe and stage a magnificent upset in spring. Sükür and Hagi led Galatasaray in the finals in Copenhagen where Arsenal were beaten 4-1 on penalties.

14. Senegal 1-0 France (2002)
France came to Japan and Korea carrying three trophies: World Cup, European Championship and Confederations Cup. However, they were stunned on their debut by Senegal, whose midfielder Pape Bouba Diop scored the only goal after 30 minutes. The French were also unlucky; Trezeguet hit a post while it was 0-0, and Zidane limped off early with an injury.

15. Slovan edges Barcelona (1969)
Slovakia had another Artmedia in the late sixties. In fact, two Artmedias, because Spartak Trnava made it to the Champions' Cup semifinals in 1968/69. But, Slovan of Bratislava went all the way in the Cup Winners' Cup. In the finals, they shocked Barcelona (and everyone else) in a magnificent display in Basle. These were the beautiful times of equality in European soccer.

16. Verona's scudetto (1985)
Inter, Milan, Juventus, Torino, Fiorentina, Napoli. These were the big Italian clubs of the eighties. But, in 1984/85 the League title went to aclub from a deep footballing province: Hellas Verona! The romantic city from the north saw its second great love story. Unlike the one about Romeo and Juliet, this one had a happy ending.

17. Videoton in the UEFA Cup finals (1985)
Ah, the mighty Videoton! Few people had heard of them before that magical season, but the Hungarian provincials had a special inspiration. They felled Paris SG, Partizan Belgrade and Manchester United before reaching the finals against Real Madrid. The Spaniards duly won the first leg in Szekesfehervar by 3-0 but the Hungarians struck back by 1-0 at Bernabeu, saying goodbye to Europe on a high note. Before returning to utter anonimity.

18. Maribor trounces Lyon (1999)
The creation of the big Olympique Lyon was nearing completion and a place in the Champions' League was expected as early as the autumn of 1999. But, the Lions were perhaps confused by the Slovenes' defeat to Ajax by 9-1 just two years earlier. It must have been terrible for the future kings of French soccer to lose to the Slovenian minnows twice, 0-1 at Gerland and 0-2 in the second leg in Maribor.

19. Panathinaikos European runners-up (1971)
Nobody feared Panathinaikos in 1970/71. To be the champions of Greece meant little to the European continent. The team coached by mythical Ferenc Puskas took advantage of their rivals' arrogance, knocking out one after another: Slovan Bratislava, Everton and Red Star Belgrade. Particularly shocking was the semifinal clash against Red Star who had travelled to Athens with a 4-1 advantage, only to lose out on the away goals rule. In the finals at Wembley, Ajax fulfilled the expectations coming out winners by a deserving 2-0.

20. Cameroon 1-0 Argentina (1990)
Argentina were the world champions from Mexico, Cameroon just a likeable African squad. At the 1990 World Cup opening at San Siro, the play did not reflect the huge difference in the teams' reputations. Omam-Biyik staggered Argentina and the world with a goal in the 67th minute, inflicting a shameful defeat on the champs. Later, wily Argentinians, albeit struggling, soldiered on and reached the finals, while Cameroon were to lose in the quarterfinals in that gigantic game with England.

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#34740 - 06/01/06 10:31 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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No. 21

Jamaica 3, Queen Elizabeth 0

..all the love she can hangle...
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#34741 - 06/01/06 10:40 PM Re: Enough - On to the Game JA v. ENG
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oh r#ss man, yu a predict another Jamaica/Brazil type match...cho brown daawg man...!!!!!

yu know how mi hate dat already...but den..mi understand di reason behind it, considering the pressures and ting...but rahtid man...wi still caan play fi wi football game iya...wi caan play some flowing football...cho man!
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