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#34009 - 05/29/06 01:17 PM Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
Yardman
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CB neva embarass we suh a England yet. Downswell 2 for 2 now in embarassing us in England and setting the program back. He continues to make rookie mistakes with his selection and poor tactics.
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#34010 - 05/29/06 01:20 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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The one prob I have with WD is that he gives too much respect to Ricketts. He is the worst keeper and yet him give him captaincy and dem ting deh. Ricketts feel as if his spot on the team is secure that's why him gwan wid the foolishness and a boot out the ball. Sawyers for England match!
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#34011 - 05/29/06 01:31 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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If we want to see the team improve. Play more games. WD is also learning on the Job. WD teams were always weak on the defensive side. Did any of you remember when CB did give up the national coaching job for a time and WD took over? Well, in our next competition, which was the CFU Shell Cup games, Jamaica lost against Cayman Islands! A team we have never lost to before and after that! Even our club teams go their and beat them!

My only reason for wanting WD to continue head the programme is that I want him to be Jamaica's Bruce Arena. But the question is can he?
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#34012 - 05/29/06 01:53 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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As long as wi ah play phuckry 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 wi ah go get beat. None of our players know how to play that ****. In every game wi play dem score in less than 5 minutes pon wi. Simoes neva win nutten an wi still ah use him ultra defensive scheme ah invite attack, an Nandi no deh back deh fi save wi. 4-4-2 is our best formation.
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#34013 - 05/29/06 02:00 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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Which keeper in JA is better than ricketts
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#34014 - 05/29/06 02:06 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
Lionpaw
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Which keeper in JA is better than ricketts


Wow what a question. I'm going to need a book as big as the Bible to name them.
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#34015 - 05/29/06 02:13 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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As long as wi ah play phuckry 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 wi ah go get beat. None of our players know how to play that ****. In every game wi play dem score in less than 5 minutes pon wi. Simoes neva win nutten an wi still ah use him ultra defensive scheme ah invite attack, an Nandi no deh back deh fi save wi. 4-4-2 is our best formation.


But we were using a 442 today.

King and Shelton were the strikers.
Rhyce Campbel, Eulle, Stephenson and Crawford were the midfielders.

Daley, Reid, Davis and Stewart were the defenders.

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#34016 - 05/29/06 02:15 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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yeah, it was a 4-4-2. WD said that was his choice for this game.
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#34017 - 05/29/06 02:32 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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Then stick with 4-4-2 and use Morrison instead of Stephenson and Demar Stewart instead of Damion, give the yute Kerr a chance between the sticks. If the shot doesnt have a degree of difficulty of 25 Ricketts will not save it.
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#34018 - 05/29/06 04:45 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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Well

I don't thing WD can be judged on this really.
We haven't had a stable 11 for a while and he's still experimenting.

Essentially means players are tense and there is no geling.

My problem thou is that WD was in charge of the youth level and he didn't distinguish himself in South America.

Now in just about any other country he would not get a shot at the national team.

You have to show some success to get a promotion bredren.

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#34019 - 05/29/06 04:59 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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lion paw ricketts is the best kepepr in JA hands down
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#34020 - 05/29/06 05:14 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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Originally posted by Lionpaw:
The one prob I have with WD is that he gives too much respect to Ricketts. He is the worst keeper and yet him give him captaincy and dem ting deh. Ricketts feel as if his spot on the team is secure that's why him gwan wid the foolishness and a boot out the ball. Sawyers for England match!

i man agree with sawyers in goal, send de clown rickets back to de zoo wey him come from or wey him wi fit right in wid de monkey dem a skin up skin up. mi mad rasta wi woulda done much betta tday if de eediot never played. him nuy even deserve fi be run de team him salt i ya.

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#34021 - 05/29/06 05:17 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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GHANA IS THE TEAM TO WATCH IN THIS WORLD CUP
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#34022 - 05/29/06 05:24 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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Which keeper in JA is better than ricketts


every keeper in de npl. a yard woulda du a better job for de team dan de bl**d cl**t eediot rickets, EVERY KEEPER IN DE NPL.

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#34023 - 05/29/06 05:25 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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 Quote:
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lion paw ricketts is the best kepepr in JA hands down



ARE YOU THE GUY GHANAIANS CHERISH THAT MUCH ON GHANAWEB
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#34024 - 05/29/06 07:35 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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Folks, I donīt get you all. You scream racism when the Mexicans or whoever donīt give props to the African teams in this World Cup as the grand majority are first timers. Now Jamaica losing to Ghana is "embarassing". Make up your minds!!!!! In 1999 didnīt we lose to Ghana fresh off our World Cup appearance???? Were they not pretty far off the World Cup trail then??? And still they beat us. They are a lot better now, give credit to them, I hope they do well this World Cup.
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#34025 - 05/29/06 08:38 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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fi real.. I thought this was the first time we had played Ghana??

I gave my research to WD b4 the game. But alas... The formation we needed was 4-5-1..

Pre game and post game nothing was done to suggest WD did anything bad. I'm amazed at all this anger.

The gk is now being blamed, but the only thing he did that was questionable was the constant kicking the ball upfield. He has been doing that from the qualifiers... How many shots did Ghana take at goal??

2 lucky deflections. 2 saves that the ghanians got to b4 the jamaican defenders.

Totally different game than the Australian game though the result is similar..

So Sawyers would of made us score more goals??

Would Morrison and Demar make a difference.

WD would of used the same formation. Different individuals wouldn't of made much difference. Hue would of lasted longer in a game like this as it wasn't constant running.

The only difference between this game, Australia and any other games b4 is we didn't score enuff. The defence or midfield have been doing the same from time.

What exactly are you guys complaining about???????
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#34026 - 05/29/06 09:15 PM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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so jt what would you have done different and how would you go about for the england game cause you said you pass on details to the coach?

for me against england i would have a five midfield something like thing, with fuller supporting king from central mid. Mane i just hear the line up for england vs hungry, they have a five midfield also for this game so i think it will be the same for the game with us, gerrad behind owen.


king
fuller
juel crawford cambell

hue
reid davis stwart daley

rikketts
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#34027 - 05/30/06 12:36 AM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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Professor WD (PWD) may very well be a better coach than CB( the jury is still out)but Mr Brown, IMO, had a much better system for building and growing a good team. Building a team with a mix of an experienced foundation while introduncing young players has proven to be far superior to dropping a bunch of rucks into the ring knucks. The "professor"s team is now effectively rucksified to the point that it only has enough confidence to beat guatemala and to take home the digicell MUG, but I wish him well against the queen's subjects.

Anyway, i naaaa bad mout the TD yet. Give him likkle more time. It is unfair to compare him with CB at this stage because CB had a much better squad and player pool to chose from.

Funny thing is that i like PWD but I think the early successes he had kind of skewed his perspective. These losses that he is currently navigating will hopefully serve as a correction. I wouldn't fire him.
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#34028 - 05/30/06 01:23 AM Re: Bring Back CB, Downswell Keep On Embarassing Us
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Professor WD (PWD) may very well be a better coach than CB( the jury is still out)but Mr Brown, IMO, had a much better system for building and growing a good team. Building a team with a mix of an experienced foundation while introduncing young players has proven to be far superior to dropping a bunch of rucks into the ring knucks. The "professor"s team is now effectively rucksified to the point that it only has enough confidence to beat guatemala and to take home the digicell MUG, but I wish him well against the queen's subjects.

Anyway, i naaaa bad mout the TD yet. Give him likkle more time. It is unfair to compare him with CB at this stage because CB had a much better squad and player pool to chose from.

Funny thing is that i like PWD but I think the early successes he had kind of skewed his perspective. These losses that he is currently navigating will hopefully serve as a correction. I wouldn't fire him.



Rucksified?????

Best Keeper in English Championship (ricketts)
Best Central Defender in Championship (davis)
Player's player for Club in Championship (stewart)

Top scorer in Championship (King)

Experienced Attacking midfielder (Euell)

Grounded defensive midfielder (Stephenson)


Rucks dem yes...fi real!!!!
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