Originally posted by Tman: You have misguided people in all religions, and people will use it to justify what they do. But if you dig deeper you will see how Islam instructed Muslims to treat slaves as human beings, which is opposite to what Christianity taught that slaves were less than humans. ans were numbered among the calttle. One of the first persons to convert to Islam was the Ethiopian slave Bilal (pbuh) and he rose to a high position in Islam. Slavery was a part of the system , but on the whole they were treated as part of the household, much like a "helper" today.
Originally posted by JahPickney: Tman, a wha kinda folly dat? Answer this: how on earth can what you have stated above(highlighted in bold below) make sense? If you're a man of African descent please run for cover now!
Regarding contemporary issues:
As best I can tell, the Moslem world rests somewhere between deafening silence on Darfur to indifference to ignorance of it - a picture more or less reflective of the West's viewpoint. It is also silent on Western Sahara, Mauritania, Chad and elsewhere.
Then, the other piece of ignorance you engage in is (again) more of that moral equivalence that fails everytime - on this occasion trying to compare the benevolence of islam over Christianity regarding the amalgamation of slaves in a slave-owning society. Folly writ large.
But, then again, I shouldn't be surprised because your "helper" statement indicates youh no have no sense of reality at all.
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You have misguided people in all religions, and people will use it to justify what they do. But if you dig deeper you will see how Islam instructed Muslims to treat slaves as human beings, which is opposite to what Christianity taught that slaves were less than humans. ans were numbered among the calttle. One of the first persons to convert to Islam was the Ethiopian slave Bilal (pbuh) and he rose to a high position in Islam. Slavery was a part of the system , but on the whole they were treated as part of the household, much like a "helper" today.
Tman a do a Dick Cheney - lick him own people with birdsh*t and then try convince the world that everything is hunky dorey.
heheheheh
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I for one appreciated the Anglican church for coming out and apologize for their role in slavery. It is a step in the right direction. Hope many more who profited from slavery would take that step.
Another thing I must point out is that blacks are no more righteous than whites on the issue of slavery. many of us blacks sold our brothers into slavery. Blacks also had slaves. and if we were in the same position of the whites it is likely that we would have taken them into slavery as well.
Originally posted by ddread: Unnuh stay deh feelin sorry for unnuh selves. In medieval times (the time of the prophet) the world was arranged with lords and servants. Muhammad may have had the luxury of an Ethiopian servant in Hazrat Bilal but many arabs also had arab servant. Europeans also had European servants. What history does not mention much about is the reverse, Africans with arab and/or European servants. It was a really common arrangement in medieval times and even before that.
It is kind of crazy how we fill in the void of not knowing our history with the eternal role of victim. At what point do we see the chattel slavery that devastated Africa for what it was and organize ourselves into being able to say never again? I agree that reparations should be paid to Africans and Africa for the slave trade the developed the “western world” that most of us live in today but that’s another story.
(by the way Bilal was the very first muslim )
AMEN DDREAD!
Mi know yu seh yu no like mi but mi noticed since mi and yu ah chat yu reasoning have improved tremendously. Just joking!
Just joking!
