tune it down a bit you won remember . I for one give the Steelers credit if even for the 3 games they won before this one. By next week everyone will forget the Seahawks and the Steelers will still be champions so I don't think there is anything for Steelers fans to be upset about . Bad calls are part of the game. The Hurricanes would have another national championship if not for a bogus pass interference flag thrown a day and a half after the national championship game. Many argue that Garcia's 'goal' didn't cross the line. Referees are only human and inevitably make mistakes. Just calling it as I see it though-that was as one-sided as I have seen a big game in terms of the number of important erroneous calls that went against one team. They might well have lost anyway.
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I'm not upset buddy I'm defending my team, who I think is a more than worthy Superbowl Champion even though they were very off against Seattle. Seattle had something to do with that but not all. A normal Steelers performance and there wouldn't be a game. You forget, Ben missed open receivers too and had dropped passes as well. It was his nervousness that caused us to come with that conservative 1st quarter approach that was not typical of this team's explosive playoff run. You can talk about a pass interference that cost Seattle 4 points, ok it would have been 7-0 instead of 3-0, do you think Pit would have given up? C'mon they were down 13 against Dallas!!!! But Ben's Kordell Stewart impersonation cost us 14 points (the receiver was open) and that's why Seattle can complain about the officiating cuz Ben is who brought this thing back into discussion. At 21-3 it wouldn't have mattered what the refs did. It would have been over in the 3rd quarter!!!!
Anyway, no more debating, Man U...Braves...you're off the hook for another couple years
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Originally posted by reddevil: I'm not upset buddy I'm defending my team, who I think is a more than worthy Superbowl Champion even though they were very off against Seattle. Seattle had something to do with that but not all. A normal Steelers performance and there wouldn't be a game. You forget, Ben missed open receivers too and had dropped passes as well. It was his nervousness that caused us to come with that conservative 1st quarter approach that was not typical of this team's explosive playoff run. You can talk about a pass interference that cost Seattle 4 points, ok it would have been 7-0 instead of 3-0, do you think Pit would have given up? C'mon they were down 13 against Dallas!!!! But Ben's Kordell Stewart impersonation cost us 14 points (the receiver was open) and that's why Seattle can complain about the officiating cuz Ben is who brought this thing back into discussion. At 21-3 it wouldn't have mattered what the refs did. It would have been over in the 3rd quarter!!!!
Anyway, no more debating, Man U...Braves...you're off the hook for another couple years
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Nah watch nuh Face! The NY Giants will take home The Super Bowl Next year.
...of course they're worthy-they beat the best 2 teams in football(not counting themselves). It's all conjecture though-did they get nervous or did they just face a very good football team-that at least matched them in terms of their level of play? Most everybody went into the game (you and I included Red) saying Pittsburg was the better team-so I don't see why all the criticism for Seattle making mistakes when the Steelers also made plenty of mistakes-that's the nature of the game. Seattle did very well I thought-they just didn't execute as well as they might have and got unlucky with the officiating. Steelers are champions and in a couple of weeks noone will even remeber those calls
Originally posted by shaggybear: ...and if you don't make that very risky play at that stage in the game you are very likely down 14-3 at the half with huge momentum going to your opponents, with the opposing team having scored twice in succession and your team not moving the ball. I think a play like that is saved for the fourth quarter when you have to do it.
NO Shaggy the score was 3/0...Am I mistaken?
No. But failure at that play would been 7 points for Steelers, and they also scored a touchdown right before the half if I remember.
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Originally posted by morefire1: Nah watch nuh Face! The NY Giants will take home The Super Bowl Next year.
Who knows in today's NFL? The Steelers winning it all after losing in the Conference Championship game is a rarity these days, it used to be that the team who lost the NFC Championship game won the SB the next year starting with the niners who lost to Washington prior to SB XVIII, the trend followed for the next 3 or 4 years. But now there are teams that don't even make the playoffs one year and win the big game the next. I have my eye on Miami as a big jumper for the 06 season. Eli has a lot to learn.
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Shaggy, this argument is a silly one, it's a no brainer to give the ball up. It's far from obvious that the #1 rusher should even get the get to the line of scrimmage if the best rush defence over the last several years knows he's coming. Holmgren isn't to blame.
By defeating the AFC's top three seeds and the NFC's No. 1 seed in the Seattle Seahawks, the Pittsburgh Steelers' march to a Super Bowl XL victory has to be considered the best postseason run of all time.
Perhaps even more amazing is that the Steelers didn't even play their best football against the Seahawks. But the sign of a great football team is the ability to stay in the game when it is not playing well. Pittsburgh was nowhere near playing its best football, but it still held a four-point lead at halftime.
Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt did a great job managing Ben Roethlisberger through a rough first half, helping his young quarterback gain some confidence with a quarterback draw on third down. Whisenhunt's play calling (namely Antwaan Randle El's reverse pass for a touchdown) was a key part of the victory, and Pittsburgh truly will miss him if he decides to take the Raiders' head coaching job.
The difference in the game for the Seahawks was not taking advantage of a dominant first half. Seattle allowed the Steelers to get their feet underneath them and then watched Willie Parker break free for a 75-yard touchdown run right after halftime. In the end, it was too hard to overcome that 11-point deficit.
Yes, the officiating wasn't the best. But the Seahawks made enough mistakes to blame themselves, not just the referees.
CARTER'S SIX POINTS GO ROUTES
1. The Steel Curtain. Pittsburgh's defense was able to adjust to a lot of things the Seahawks were doing offensively. It was able to take Darrell Jackson out of the game after he enjoyed a big first quarter, and it continued to show different looks to keep Matt Hasselbeck thinking. The linebacking corps, in particular, played fabulous. Against the pass, the group gave up some plays, but against the run, it helped take away Seattle's running game.
2. Bill Cowher. He coached an absolutely great football game. That first drive of the second half was huge, and even though his team wasn't playing well, he had his players more under control than you normally see in a big game.
3. Fast Willie. Willie Parker's Super Bowl record 75-yard touchdown run was the play of the game. It was a quick blow to the psyche of the Seahawks, who had controlled the game until that point.
FADE ROUTES
1. Not-so-even Stevens. Jerramy Stevens probably played his worst game as a pro. But it's not surprising that the Seahawks' tight end failed to back up his words from Media Day. He's not that good. Stevens had an opportunity to make a difference in the game, but he wasn't able to pull it off because – trust me – the Steelers ultimately got into his head.
2. Seattle's offense. Despite all the yardage they gained in the first half, the Seahawks still were trailing 7-3 at halftime. That was a huge disappointment. Darrell Jackson had a touchdown catch negated due to a pass interference call, but that was the right call. Jackson pushed off to gain an advantage. Interesting coming from a former receiver
3. 'Hawks' bad timing. Seattle made mistakes at the worst times, and the holding penalties that canceled out big plays were just part of it. The Seahawks had so many unfortunate things happen to them, especially in the first 30 minutes of the game, to prevent them from putting Pittsburgh in a big hole.
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so you agree with the pass interference call? If that was pass interference Cris Carter and Michael Irvin would not have had careers . If we're going to go by the letter of the law rather than how it is consistently applied you could legitimately justify calling a penalty on every single play in an NFL or NBA game. I think Miami next year too but I've been saying that for 10 years now!
The pass interference was a nit picky call as I said before I was just noting that a wide receiver said it was a good call. Normally, players defend their counterparts. To strictly apply the rule yes it was interference he pushed and prevented the guy from moving to the ball, but so light a push is hardly ever called.
Originally posted by reddevil: Shaggy, this argument is a silly one, it's a no brainer to give the ball up. It's far from obvious that the #1 rusher should even get the get to the line of scrimmage if the best rush defence over the last several years knows he's coming. Holmgren isn't to blame.
I agree. I actually though Moby had an ulterior motive in initiating the thread, though I have no idea what that would have been.
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Originally posted by shaggybear: I agree. I actually though Moby had an ulterior motive in initiating the thread, though I have no idea what that would have been.
Probably bet money. I cursed at Pete Carrol for going for a 2 point conversion that failed and blew my point spread once, but it was the right thing to do for his team and not for my pocket
Originally posted by reddevil: Probably bet money. I cursed at Pete Carrol for going for a 2 point conversion that failed and blew my point spread once, but it was the right thing to do for his team and not for my pocket
gambling red? now now.
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. I for one give the Steelers credit if even for the 3 games they won before this one. By next week everyone will forget the Seahawks and the Steelers will still be champions so I don't think there is anything for Steelers fans to be upset about 
