We all waiting for him to commit to us or Canada since he said that as soon as he's contracted he'll declare, so 'ites man the news wires.
RIC I'm surprise you kinda doubt this yute ability. I'm more so looking at the fact that we currently don't have a player in the middle like him for R'Boyz. Even if he's a bit below grade as a top baller, with him we still good, and he would make our midfield much better than it is.
HI...
Its not that I don't rate him...I'm matching him up against the others of the best wingers in the Premiereship and in that company..eg Ashley Young, Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott...he's nothing special...good, but nothing special.
For Jamaica, its another story...if he continues to develop more playing through the middle, he could be a really special player for Jamaica, playing just behind the strikers, where he played some for Blackburn last season.
The truth is...our coach Tappa Whitmore doesn't seem prepared to think outside the box in preparing Jamaica for Brazil...if Jamaica was to make an all-out effort to recruit the best players out of England and quarantee that all the players would have an equal chance to compete for a squad place, the chances of Hoillett, McAnuff, Pratley and others might be quicker to committ to Jamaica.
Right now there's a lot of mixed messages coming out of Jamaica, where words and actions aren't matching up.
I'm going on record right now saying that...this current Jamaica squad that we saw in these first two qualifying games IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH to get Jamaica to Brazil...the players, some of them, are already there but if they're not playing, eg Ricardo Fuller, how can we judge their value to the team.
No one can convince me that untried players like Stevens and Stewart should be coming off the bench with significant playing time over a player of Fuller's ability and experience.
I'm seriously hoping that Tappa sees the light and proves me wrong before the USA match...losing that one could easily be the end of Jamaica's WC campaign because these away matches against the USA and Guatemala are going to be the toughest matches Jamaica has ever played in recent years...Guatemala is not by any means out of this mix yet...
This current Jamaica side is simply not convincing.
A ca disagree Ric, Tappa's usage/non-usage/managing of Fuller was an eye opener. Yes their mix messages plus a lack of communication to the fans is equally appalling.
Simply put, the fans who pay their money to go watch ball games deserve the respect of being communicated to regarding important player issues and recruits, potential recruits etc. This is about keeping the fan base interested.
The team needs help and they have not released any info regarding what they are doing to strengthen the team, so fans will continue to be doubtful as to further improvement of the side. Just all around poor communication with this FA.
We all waiting for him to commit to us or Canada since he said that as soon as he's contracted he'll declare, so 'ites man the news wires.
RIC I'm surprise you kinda doubt this yute ability. I'm more so looking at the fact that we currently don't have a player in the middle like him for R'Boyz. Even if he's a bit below grade as a top baller, with him we still good, and he would make our midfield much better than it is.
HI...
Its not that I don't rate him...I'm matching him up against the others of the best wingers in the Premiereship and in that company..eg Ashley Young, Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott...he's nothing special...good, but nothing special.
For Jamaica, its another story...if he continues to develop more playing through the middle, he could be a really special player for Jamaica, playing just behind the strikers, where he played some for Blackburn last season.
The truth is...our coach Tappa Whitmore doesn't seem prepared to think outside the box in preparing Jamaica for Brazil...if Jamaica was to make an all-out effort to recruit the best players out of England and quarantee that all the players would have an equal chance to compete for a squad place, the chances of Hoillett, McAnuff, Pratley and others might be quicker to committ to Jamaica.
Right now there's a lot of mixed messages coming out of Jamaica, where words and actions aren't matching up.
I'm going on record right now saying that...this current Jamaica squad that we saw in these first two qualifying games IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH to get Jamaica to Brazil...the players, some of them, are already there but if they're not playing, eg Ricardo Fuller, how can we judge their value to the team.
No one can convince me that untried players like Stevens and Stewart should be coming off the bench with significant playing time over a player of Fuller's ability and experience.
I'm seriously hoping that Tappa sees the light and proves me wrong before the USA match...losing that one could easily be the end of Jamaica's WC campaign because these away matches against the USA and Guatemala are going to be the toughest matches Jamaica has ever played in recent years...Guatemala is not by any means out of this mix yet...
This current Jamaica side is simply not convincing.
A ca disagree Ric, Tappa's usage/non-usage/managing of Fuller was an eye opener. Yes their mix messages plus a lack of communication to the fans is equally appalling.
Simply put, the fans who pay their money to go watch ball games deserve the respect of being communicated to regarding important player issues and recruits, potential recruits etc. This is about keeping the fan base interested.
The team needs help and they have not released any info regarding what they are doing to strengthen the team, so fans will continue to be doubtful as to further improvement of the side. Just all around poor communication with this FA.
Yet they expect unreserved support from Jamaica's fans.
You know, from back in my days as a yute supporting Jamaica, the average Jamaican's views of football in Jamaica has never been very high, and you know why ?
Because Jamaican football has never represented the high quality of managerial success that Jamaica is known for.
Jamaica produces some of the best managerial talent accross the board, in the world...bright, tough, strict people who get the job done...look at all of Jamaica's major educational facilities, the army, industry and that king of all Jamaican sports, track and field...all run by top management, with the success to show for their efforts.
What do you see in football ? From way back in the day until now ?
When a Jamaican track athlete fails a drug test, which is very rarely...the entire nation is kept informed and updated...
Yet, Jamaica's most successful striker in recent years, Marlon King, has been sent home and suspended from WC qualifiers...with little or no real explanation of the circumstances...and this is totally accepted because he has a past history of indiscipline ?
Do you get my drift ?
Any instutution is only as good as its top people...
And Jamaica's top football people don't meet the required standard, so what can you expect from the football team ?
The results over a period of time speaks for themselves...
And don't expect that the average Jamaican's opinion of Jamaica's football is going to change any time soon.
If Canada or Jamaica think he's interested in playing for either of them soon, they're dreaming.
Well, if he wishes to play international football, he had better pick one or the other because he stands NO chance of ever playing for England.
England is not going to pass over the up-and-coming best youngsters like Oxlade-Chamberlain, Nathan Redmond, Raheem Sterling et al et al for a non-English born player.
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If Canada or Jamaica think he's interested in playing for either of them soon, they're dreaming.
Well, if he wishes to play international football, he had better pick one or the other because he stands NO chance of ever playing for England.
England is not going to pass over the up-and-coming best youngsters like Oxlade-Chamberlain, Nathan Redmond, Raheem Sterling et al et al for a non-English born player.
Marklon I fully agree we cant belittle ourselves by begging any man to play, I wouldnt want us to but holding a meeting with him and his dad and breaking down the plan and where Junior fits in to the plan and the JFF and Tappa's vision for the role he has to play is not begging. Then put the question to him, do you want to play ?
If he says no then its done, he can wait another 6 years to play at a world cup with 8-1 Canada, good luck to him if he choses that option. He doesnt qualify to play for England so realistically we are his only option and if the JFF cant convince him to play for us in this postion then we never had a chance anyway.
I fully believe he would say yes, his agent and father wants him to play for us aswell, im sure Junior see's the light now
Ric I fully disagree. You said he is nothing special but in truth who is really better in the premier league,
Gareth Bale is the best.
Arguably Chamberlain is better.
Walcott (not in my opinion and im a Arsenal fan, walcott is quicker and aa good finisher but Hoiletts better at everything else),
Ashley Young (good delivery and scores more goals, but Hoilett is quicker, more aware, better passer and more skillful),
Nani ( skillful and quick but Hoilett is both of those things but works for the team more and doesnt show boat so much),
Lennon (very quick but has no skill, not a good passer of the ball, not a good crosser, hes like a rich mans Dane, Hoiletts better),
Gervinho(no comment needed lol),
Milner ( good delivery but slow, no skill and Holiett beats him in all areas hands down)
Valencia (strong powerful, quick, works very hard for the team but Hoilett has more technical ability, skill and is more aware and a better passer)
Padolski (strong, powerful, good technique, great shot and a leathal finisher. Hoilett is more skillful, better change of direction and quicker
Sterling ( very skillful, quick and very talented. Hoilett is skillful but not as skillful as Sterling but Hoilett has more of an all round game right now but Sterling is young and still improving. Right now i'd chose Hoilett over Sterling).
Nasri, (not as quick and doesnt have such quick feet but all round is class and better than Hoilett in most areas)
These wingers(12 out of 40 that play regular in the prem) are the only ones I can think of in the premier league that an arguement can be made for and Hoiletts better than alot of them plus Hoilett plays in the free role behind the striker better than all of them other than Nasri. Have you watched Hoilett many times Ric because you talk like someone who hasnt seen him much or is just generally clueless
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Not meaning to hijack the thread, but is he any good? Haven't watched any reading games in a few years. Not that it matters, becasue Tappa nah call no brit anyway.
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Not meaning to hijack the thread, but is he any good? Haven't watched any reading games in a few years. Not that it matters, becasue Tappa nah call no brit anyway.
only good ting me rate bout tappa. him nuh run backa man. u want play for JA, let it be known, like d midfielder Crawford a do. We fi welcome ballers like him with open arms. everybody else who feel dem high n mighty fi fff off
