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#202027 - 06/30/12 02:50 PM Raheem Sterling the new john barnes
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why dont we get the young liverpool magician before england does his mother said that she would love to see him play for jamaica just 17 years old just get him and we would have a briliant player
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#202031 - 06/30/12 04:08 PM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: magical messi]
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 Originally Posted By: magical messi
why dont we get the young liverpool magician before england does his mother said that she would love to see him play for jamaica just 17 years old just get him and we would have a briliant player


First, you need a Jamaica Football Federation that is a total part of the world football family...right now, our JFF IS NOT THAT.

If and when Jamaica, as a nation, can feel the love of football that the world's major football countries do...their football associations only run the game for thier nation...and in these nations, their entire emotional selves are completely wrapped up in football.

For the nation of Jamaica...this national, emotional love is for TRACK & FIELD...

It is the job of Jamaica's football association (federation) to work with the nation's football to sway the nation's emotions to football...and so far, our Jamaica Football Federation has failed the nation miserably.

What will now happen with the best of Jamaica's next generation of footballers who are now at some of Europe's best clubs...Valencia in Spain for one...they are now speaking Spanish fluently...they are at Bayern Munich and some of the Belgian and Dutch clubs as well...

When this Jamaica Football Federation fails to advance the running of the nation's football...as it continues to do...

Will the nation of Jamaica blame these young Jamaican professionals should they have the choice and option to declare and play for the countries of their professional clubs ?


The nation of Jamaica fi STOP point dem fingas at footballers...too long wi a bear dem ire when di track stars dem have dem love and respect
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Jamaica's footballers fi plot dem owna course, as all professional athletes do...and let Jamaica's football federation(administrators) answer to the nation of Jamaica...

For the success or failure of Jamaica's football.

Footballers only play di game...DEM DON'T RUN IT!


Edited by Ric (06/30/12 04:18 PM)

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#202047 - 07/01/12 07:28 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: Ric]
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#202050 - 07/01/12 11:24 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: jhon paul]
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Ric: I so agree with you. JFF need to do better in terms of scouting. You have so many young talented boys in the US, who can represent Jamaica, but they do not know how to do so. You kind of have to know someone who knows someone, and then you have to pay to go tryout.

If you need good talent, you should be willing to do whatever it takes to get the good talent! Yes, the financial aspect is quite daunting, but if they put 1/3 of the effort that they put into Track and Field, Jamaica Football would be on par with some of the countries.

Can you imagine if they harvest the young talent and they get "bought" by the bigger clubs for huge sums of money (like Bibi was), what that could do for the country? They need to implement a system ASAP!
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#202058 - 07/01/12 02:32 PM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: Shelle]
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Speaking to The Gleaner in that 2011 interview, Nadine expressed a desire to see her son turn out for his native country, but if the English have any say, it is the red and white of 'The Three Lions' that he will continue to wear for a very long time.

Here is the great dilemma of Jamaican football.

Jamaica is making no attempt to be able to attract Raheem Sterling...or the other players like him...as a matter of fact, in the current set-up, quite the opposite.

This current Jamaican football administration is catering to local sentiments that rule out and even disrespect that playing for Liverpool, in one the world's top leagues should count for anything in playing for Jamaica...playing for Harbour View and Portmore United counts just as much if not more...that is the current Jamaican mentality to football.

It won't matter how many Raheem Sterlings or Daniel Sturridges there are out there, until this mentality changes..these players might as well qualify to play for Timbuctoo...

They will never be of any benefit to Jamaica's football; neither will Jamaica's football benefit from them.


Edited by Ric (07/01/12 02:34 PM)

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#202065 - 07/01/12 05:36 PM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: Ric]
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If he looks up to Barnes then he will play for England.

I think the next 6 months is crucial for him to get some first team minutes at Liverpool. He has not appear for England since the U17 and I do not expect him to be in the Olympics squad.

Realistally, he would be in a dog fight to start for the Reggaeboyz as a left winger but he should be groomed for the future if he commits so the 2013 Gold Cup could be a goal.


Edited by jamatl (07/01/12 05:38 PM)

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#202077 - 07/01/12 08:50 PM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: jamatl]
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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
If he looks up to Barnes then he will play for England.

I think the next 6 months is crucial for him to get some first team minutes at Liverpool. He has not appear for England since the U17 and I do not expect him to be in the Olympics squad.

Realistally, he would be in a dog fight to start for the Reggaeboyz as a left winger but he should be groomed for the future if he commits so the 2013 Gold Cup could be a goal.

Not necessarily, I've always heard that Jamaica would have been Barnes' first choice to play for but logistically it wouldn't have made any sense in the 80s. So maybe if he talks to Barnes personally he might even help. 2013 is too soon as well as he'd still only be 18, 2015 Gold Cup would be more likely (unless Jamaica do qualify for 2014, in which case all bets are off).


Edited by theworm2345 (07/01/12 08:51 PM)

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#202079 - 07/02/12 12:11 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: theworm2345]
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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
If he looks up to Barnes then he will play for England.

I think the next 6 months is crucial for him to get some first team minutes at Liverpool. He has not appear for England since the U17 and I do not expect him to be in the Olympics squad.

Realistally, he would be in a dog fight to start for the Reggaeboyz as a left winger but he should be groomed for the future if he commits so the 2013 Gold Cup could be a goal.

Not necessarily, I've always heard that Jamaica would have been Barnes' first choice to play for but logistically it wouldn't have made any sense in the 80s. So maybe if he talks to Barnes personally he might even help. 2013 is too soon as well as he'd still only be 18, 2015 Gold Cup would be more likely (unless Jamaica do qualify for 2014, in which case all bets are off).


I don't believe it was a logistics issue; more of an organizational and lack of capital to even be part of world cup quals. I believe Barnes is on record as saying he wanted to make JA the country of choice for all Jamaicans.

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#202082 - 07/02/12 02:22 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: TheDread]
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Its definitely not a logistics issue...how could it be ?

Its a football system and organization issue.

Compare England to Jamaica eg.

Alex-Oxlade Chamberlain is 18, one year older than Raheem, with not that much more Premiereship experience...they both deduted for their clubs, Liverpool and Arsenal, last season...with Alex getting more game time...

And Roy Hodgson picking him for England's Euro 2012 side...his age having absolutely no impact on the decision to promote him to England's senior side at all.

Jamaica re Raheem Sterling will see the he-hawing go on forever, suggestions of calling him into Jamaica U20 side...and more bs than you can shake a stick at...

And, at the end of the day, Raheem Sterling, like Daniel Sturridge, Ashley Young, Jermaine Pennant...and John Barnes long before them...will still end up never representing Jamaica on the football field.

Jamaica's entire football system needs an overhaul...and possibly new people in charge to run it.

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#202083 - 07/02/12 06:15 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: theworm2345]
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 Originally Posted By: theworm2345
 Originally Posted By: jamatl
If he looks up to Barnes then he will play for England.

I think the next 6 months is crucial for him to get some first team minutes at Liverpool. He has not appear for England since the U17 and I do not expect him to be in the Olympics squad.

Realistally, he would be in a dog fight to start for the Reggaeboyz as a left winger but he should be groomed for the future if he commits so the 2013 Gold Cup could be a goal.

Not necessarily, I've always heard that Jamaica would have been Barnes' first choice to play for but logistically it wouldn't have made any sense in the 80s. So maybe if he talks to Barnes personally he might even help. 2013 is too soon as well as he'd still only be 18, 2015 Gold Cup would be more likely (unless Jamaica do qualify for 2014, in which case all bets are off).


This is what's so frustration to us, if there's a footballer in England that carries weight of influence is the highly respected John Barnes. A man who have expressed is love for JA football, one would think he's a perfect fit to represent us as chief scout & laison for the JFF in England, but to no avail.

When I heard Tappa/JFF said that Raheem better suited for the U20 we all had to laugh. These people need to come back down to earth. Imagine we have nothing like him with is skill set and guile on the ball in our senior side yet they say he's better suited for our U20, insane.

I tell you if we do not end up with at least two of these players (Jobi, Hoilett, Raheem, Pratley) before the HEX, that's if we make the HEX, we're done.

Once again we are in a wait and see mode, how many times we've come to this wait and see situation and nothing really happens? It seems the JFF is waiting for Raheem, Scott Sinclair, Hoilett, Nathan Dyer and company to call them, because JA a big side!

The bottom line is whether or not Burrel travels to meet players, the coach is the one that has to figure out what he needs and communicate that to his top brass. We can't fault Burrel here as far as recruits are concerned, Tappa has to say, let's speak to such and such a player.

Now Tappa is in a little dilemma as far as producing something different in our midfield, and that is a good thing. There's some pressure on him at this point for new ideas, so he'll further prove to us whether he's capable or not.

We all hope the Jamaican in him will find a way like he did against HON. in the GCC. Do Tappa kno fail we, step up and do the courageous thing...switch up Fuller & Phillips.

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#202084 - 07/02/12 06:47 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: Hamilton Israel]
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Oh I am so sick of you guys!

A wonder if one of this so called saviours farth a England if unno smell it a unno yard!

Like our track and field all our football needs is resources. Example, nuff a unno same one are the same ones who use to be saying our T&F athletes should take US scholarships and coaching if them want make it as top class athletes. Glen Mills, francis and others would a dead fi hungry now if them did listen unnu.
Now look how unnu a kin teet and gwan like unnu did a support the ting from the jump.

Look pon all the ballers that leff JA football and the impact they have had on their Farrin team. The shows that with resources I have no doubt we can duplicate our T&F athletes success. But because nuff a unnu cant tell unnu nose from battam all unnu can offer JA football is something unnu read, hear or see pon TV bout some baller who probly dont know Reggae come from JA not Calypso.

The worse a di so call guess-perts who only hear bout the baller pon thi site and start call fi inclusion in the squad. Worse them blame the coach, admin, president, dem granny seh the baller not on the team.

I am good friends with Jr. Hoilett's family and know for sure he will not represent noone until he has signed a contract that will secure his future. Yet still nuff a unnu a blame JFF sey the baller not on the side. Daniel Sturridge deh pon TV a Jamaica a tell unnu seh a England to him ting but yet still unnu would a crucify the Captain sey him fi deh inna de side. Me haffi just shake mi head and laff.

Nuff A unnu fi go chuck off a and low we team we a progress and we soon get deh widout unnu set a fling-stone-behind unnu artist.

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#202085 - 07/02/12 06:51 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: Perry Boy]
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Raheem could be the star for our U20 team, now. If we can get him for the 2013 CONCACAF U20 Final round, if we qualify that would be COMMITMENT.

Is he good? yes

Is he ready for WCQ senior team ball in the next six months? no

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#202087 - 07/02/12 06:59 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: TheDread]
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Not necessarily, I've always heard that Jamaica would have been Barnes' first choice to play for but logistically it wouldn't have made any sense in the 80s. So maybe if he talks to Barnes personally he might even help. 2013 is too soon as well as he'd still only be 18, 2015 Gold Cup would be more likely (unless Jamaica do qualify for 2014, in which case all bets are off).


I don't believe it was a logistics issue; more of an organizational and lack of capital to even be part of world cup quals. I believe Barnes is on record as saying he wanted to make JA the country of choice for all Jamaicans.

Aren't logistics and organization/capital pretty much the same thing though? I should know as I worked for UPS \:D

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#202096 - 07/02/12 11:06 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: jamatl]
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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
Raheem could be the star for our U20 team, now. If we can get him for the 2013 CONCACAF U20 Final round, if we qualify that would be COMMITMENT.

Is he good? yes

Is he ready for WCQ senior team ball in the next six months? no


So Bibi at 17 was ready and Raheem is not? are u kidding me. Do u see who we have on our team just in terms of the basics (Control and Pass)? This kid has gotten minutes on a top premier league side....most of our players cannot make championship...

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#202097 - 07/02/12 11:32 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: enlighten]
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i say Jamaica need to give him a call up for these upcoming friendlies in July n August respectively. We need to secure him for the future. Jamaica need to look to the future and him ready regardless what some of u guys think. Jamaica things is to call up a man when him inna him late 20s for what i don't knw. As for Sterridge b4 he represented england senior team which was last year he said he was interested in playing for Jamaica.
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#202098 - 07/02/12 11:48 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: remakidBTFC]
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If he continues in this same trajectory and makes an impression next season for liverpool...Sorry to say but he will be too good for this Jamaican team. England are making quite a habit of calling them young. He is only a year younger than Ox Chamberlain.
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#202099 - 07/02/12 11:51 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: remakidBTFC]
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real ting cause mi talk to raheem sterling from blackburn (reserves) (england u21 stand by) an him waan come play but dont kno how fi go bout it and mi tell jy but the yute sey jff still nuh contact him yet. come to think of it mi not even sure bout this nigel neita thing, cause all now mi nuh hear ntn more bout it. jff a try carry wi in circles.
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#202100 - 07/02/12 11:56 AM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: theworm2345]
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Not necessarily, I've always heard that Jamaica would have been Barnes' first choice to play for but logistically it wouldn't have made any sense in the 80s. So maybe if he talks to Barnes personally he might even help. 2013 is too soon as well as he'd still only be 18, 2015 Gold Cup would be more likely (unless Jamaica do qualify for 2014, in which case all bets are off).


I don't believe it was a logistics issue; more of an organizational and lack of capital to even be part of world cup quals. I believe Barnes is on record as saying he wanted to make JA the country of choice for all Jamaicans.

Aren't logistics and organization/capital pretty much the same thing though? I should know as I worked for UPS \:D


Actually, no. Logistics is one of the main functions within an organization but is not the organization or capital. But I get your drift.

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#202101 - 07/02/12 01:02 PM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: TheDread]
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Fact- Raheem Stirling will play a lot of games for Liverpool this coming season because Liverpool now have a manager who is not afraid to put faith in young players.Fact- If Raheem Stirling was at Arsenal or Manchester United he would've progressed further, he would've certainly played more games.This youth is ready for big time football he have the ability,confidence and quality to shine at the highest level.2014 he will be 19 years old and would be ready to take the World Cup by storm.Anyone in any doubt please see the video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2P7hMT_j-0

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#202102 - 07/02/12 01:12 PM Re: Raheem Sterling the new john barnes [Re: Cammo]
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 Originally Posted By: Cammo
Fact- Raheem Stirling will play a lot of games for Liverpool this coming season because Liverpool now have a manager who is not afraid to put faith in young players.Fact- If Raheem Stirling was at Arsenal or Manchester United he would've progressed further, he would've certainly played more games.This youth is ready for big time football he have the ability,confidence and quality to shine at the highest level.2014 he will be 19 years old and would be ready to take the World Cup by storm.Anyone in any doubt please see the video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2P7hMT_j-0


True, I also remember him being on the radar for arsenal but wenger switched focus and brought in Ox....and anyone think this Kid is not ready for the bigtime for a Jamaican team has the same mentality has the coaching staff...We think we too GOOD! (Over Estimation much)...this ain't track...

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