And one more thing...even this Panama reserve side is better than Cuba and Guyana...from weh me see, Panama is that much further ahead of Jamaica in development if them can send them B side to Jamaica and beat what supposed to be Jamaica's A side..according to your reasoning ?
I watched this same Panama side against the USA and both teams could have been called reserve sides..but both sides were far superior to what I saw from Jamaica in that first half, with Jamaica's local players losing out the Panama's in every single facet of the game, individually and collectively, especially in the midfield play.
Pelepappa... if u really think sey that mi neva know which matches you were referring to when speaking of locals taking their chances..den u really more idiaat than mi did think...and if u really feel sey mi or anyone else taking Jamaica's games against Cuba and Guyuna as any test or indication of Jamaica's local ballas being credible for this WC team..then there really is no hope for you.
How come you run talk about Cuba and Guyana and omitted the NZ game? Didn't the locals score in that game also? How come you always manage to be so convenient? It is like you can't help yuself, it gone beyond coincidence. Anyway read weh you wrote and tell us who is the idiot.
"...Which local ballas inna Jamaica side tek which chances...ina dis match??...please, no mek mi dead fi laugh because mi can almost quarantee u...di guy weh a mek dem idiaat comment probably neva even watch di match !..."
We affi start calling you Ric "the flip flopper" or Ric "the fish".
Pelepappa... if u really think sey that mi neva know which matches you were referring to when speaking of locals taking their chances..den u really more idiaat than mi did think...and if u really feel sey mi or anyone else taking Jamaica's games against Cuba and Guyuna as any test or indication of Jamaica's local ballas being credible for this WC team..then there really is no hope for you.
How come you run talk about Cuba and Guyana and omitted the NZ game? Didn't the locals score in that game also? How come you always manage to be so convenient? It is like you can't help yuself, it gone beyond coincidence. Anyway read weh you wrote and tell us who is the idiot.
"...Which local ballas inna Jamaica side tek which chances...ina dis match??...please, no mek mi dead fi laugh because mi can almost quarantee u...di guy weh a mek dem idiaat comment probably neva even watch di match !..."
We affi start calling you Ric "the flip flopper" or Ric "the fish".
Panama is at a higher level than that New Zealand team played
Panama is at a higher level than that New Zealand team played
...and yet New Zealand beat Honduras 1-0 the other day. What is the lesson of all of this? Results from friendlies mean absolutely nothing. Many ites were, in my opinion, overreacting to the result of this Panama friendly despite the fact that Jamaica pretty much dominated the game. I'm talking about calling for players/coaches heads, etc. Even worse is the people putting the US on a pedestal, especially after they beat Scotland. Nevermind that Scotland were basically vacationing in Florida with their season having just ended and they have nothing to play for until WC Qualifiers in the fall.
I think the passion is great but these matches have to be kept in perspective. Result is irrelevant, performance is of greater importance but even that is not always the most important thing. Remember the Cuba match in February when Jorginho James was crowned the next Bibi Gardner because he scored a nice goal? Obviously I'm not writing him off as a player but I haven't heard anything about him since.
Pelepappa... It no make no sense mi follow u up mi breda...mi a no the only one pon dis forum weh done suss u out long time...
You, of all people, would have every reason to see Jamaica with a side of pure locals on the field, should Jamaica ever get to where they meet Costa Rica...so u undermine every attempt that man mek fi point out just how poor they are...
But u right in one respect...Tappa no capable of seeing much more than you..so im a play right into unnu hand.
You well know sey Jamaica stands no chance with what started that game against Panama but the truth is..that suits you and Costa Rica just fine.
I guess this is where you go in for the kill? Don't grab the bait Zilla throw you and end up hook like a fish.
You forgot that 4 years ago when everyone here was finding every which way for the JFF to waste the scarce resources they didn't have on foolish trips to SA and age group tours of Brazil I was the only one talking about the JFF saving or generating funds to see the 2014 campaign through, meaning financing the availability of the best players. I even proposed raising funds on the forum and donating to kids in JA so they can attend home games we wouldn't be able to attend, a proposal most shot down, because in reality when it comes down to it most would not step up to help.
Mi worry 'bout CRica getting out of their group, which does not include JA. Once we get to the Hex we alright.
Everyone here knows I don't think JA have the funds to see any tournament through, especially the qualifiers. Everybody cry fi players, but noone but me ever address the financial issues facing the JFF. This campaign is no different and actually the JFF could be in worse financial state than in 2010. I might be wrong but I am totally convince of this.
Here is the kicker, follow closely or you might miss it:
Being that CRica won't be meeting JA in the upcoming round why would a smart guy like me not push for JA to use up their limited resources on their foreign players in this round knowing they won't have the resources to call on them once the Hex starts, when they most likely would be meeting CRica? Even better, as unlikely as it seems, a strong JA might even knock out the USA leaving CRica to compete in the hex against Guatemala and a weak JA team.
so lemme ask everyone...if jamaica played the same exact way they did sunday night but managed to win..lets say the shots that hit the post scored...would everyone still be complaining or what?
so lemme ask everyone...if jamaica played the same exact way they did sunday night but managed to win..lets say the shots that hit the post scored...would everyone still be complaining or what?
Good question G Dawg and nuff a them ago say yes, but the truth in fact is that they would be celebrating and cheering on the team with them two sided wagonist face!!!!
Pelepappa... if u really think sey that mi neva know which matches you were referring to when speaking of locals taking their chances..den u really more idiaat than mi did think...and if u really feel sey mi or anyone else taking Jamaica's games against Cuba and Guyuna as any test or indication of Jamaica's local ballas being credible for this WC team..then there really is no hope for you.
How come you run talk about Cuba and Guyana and omitted the NZ game? Didn't the locals score in that game also? How come you always manage to be so convenient? It is like you can't help yuself, it gone beyond coincidence. Anyway read weh you wrote and tell us who is the idiot.
"...Which local ballas inna Jamaica side tek which chances...ina dis match??...please, no mek mi dead fi laugh because mi can almost quarantee u...di guy weh a mek dem idiaat comment probably neva even watch di match !..."
We affi start calling you Ric "the flip flopper" or Ric "the fish".
Panama is at a higher level than that New Zealand team played
I know Panama and I wouldn't say that, but that's not the point anyway.
The point is NZ is a stronger side than Cuba and Guyana and the yutes did score in that game as well and in more spectacular fashion, so why mention one and not the other?
at the end of the day Jamaica lost a friendly, I say everyone not get worried until we see what happens on friday...I believe Friday is the real test..cause Panama is playing at home and im sure they will draw for their strongest team before qualifiers. Im just worried if because of this loss if fans will come out on june 8. Im also concerned that if Colombia destroyed Guyana last night 7-1, why Jamaica couldnt do the same, is that also a sign of struggle against Antigua? Like what im saying when Jamaica plays lower quality teams do they play to that teams level??
Yo Honduras lost their friendly over the weekend as well and Im sure they will still win their group in the end.
so lemme ask everyone...if jamaica played the same exact way they did sunday night but managed to win..lets say the shots that hit the post scored...would everyone still be complaining or what?
I would still be complaining about the way the team played in the first half especially...and the overall quality of Jamaica's football from what we saw in this game...with the first qualifier against Antigua just days away.
And I would still be complaining about the performance of Jamaica's local players, Joel Senior, Rohan Reid, Ewan Grandison and Xavier Virgo...and I would still say Dada have no place starting on Jamaica's side now....I don't see Lance Laing as a serious contender for a squad place in Jamaica's side so we can safely rule him out altogether.
That midfield was woeful at CONCACAF top-level, which this Panama side was not but was still good enough to control the game enough for the win.
If that is the best the four mentioned local players can play at international..at home, mind you...what do you think the result would have been had this been the starting 11 against say...the USA ?
Its the overall quality of team play that worries me the most...and with these players in theam...that will not improve.
Let me make my point a little stronger, using the USA again as a bench mark because Jamaica will be facing them in the real thing, this time.
The USA's midfieled is made up of Jermaine Jones, Michael Bradley, Maurice Edu and possibly Clint Demsey, when he's in the side...
This is a fluid, attacking midfield that can get goals and will be expected to get goals for the USA through Jones and Demsey...and they have the steel in Bradley and Edu....hard to break down and throw off their tempo...a midfield that can pass and keep the ball and get it forward when the opportunity arises....
Did anyone see any of these attributes in Jamaica's midfield against a Panama B side ?
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I tend to agree with Ric here that the main worry for JA is the midfield or lack thereof...and even if PAN didnt have shots on goal per se (several times they tried to get too close instead of shooting), they did get close to the goal on many occassions and had several corners and free kicks after the goal was scored. JA improved throught the game but never in the middle, they got out run and out hussled and had to pass the ball back way too many times as they had not option other than long passes to the wingers and those were not working much of the game. The point is JA was never in control of the middle and the forwards relied on shots from outside the box to create danger. The 2 shots on the post were from outside the box and the only real chance inside the box was that header that the goalkeeper dropped and caused some problems for the defense. During the 1st half there was a kick form inside the penalty box that the keeper stopped, that was the only shot from around there the whole game that was on goal.
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