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Originally Posted By: G Dawg
Originally Posted By: LINCOLN
Originally Posted By: G Dawg
why are they traveling to new zealand for a friendly??? they will have flight problems from jamaica unless they leave a week ahead of time...thats a very far place to travel with a totally different time zone...whats the point of this? or are they meeting in england to play?
It is a necessary evil......If Jamaica cannot work out the kinks now, do you really believe they can pull it off when it matters most? Call it a mock drill or mock exam 1. Travel..... 2. Jet lag/Recovery...... 3. Performance on and off the field..... 4. Sleep deprivation/Recovery.... 5. Strange foods.... 6. Unfamiliar environment......... 7. Logistics issues........
After action review: (1) What went wrong? (2) What went well? (3) What can we do better?
Inter-confederation play-offs Game 1 AFC Fifth place VS CONMEBOL Fifth place Game 2 CONCACAF Fourth place VS OFC First place
*The Reggaeboyz could EASILY finish 4th in CONCACAF. *New Zealand is a shoe-in for the OFC spot.
so basically you are saying jamaica plans to come 4th in the hex....how about they worry about even getting out of the semi final stage first and prepare teh team for that before jumping the gun??
I think this is ridiclous. Apparently its about a 22 hour flight from London to Auckland and 20 hours from Stockholm and obviously a massive time switch. So, because this is not a normal 2 week international break, all European-based players will basically be screwed for their next matches on Saturday. Of course teams have to release them as it is a FIFA date, but I would still fully expect players to be getting "injured" and then recovering for the weekends game. As the local-based players are already going to be playing against Cuba twice the week before, I don't see the point of this match.
I think this is ridiclous. Apparently its about a 22 hour flight from London to Auckland and 20 hours from Stockholm and obviously a massive time switch. So, because this is not a normal 2 week international break, all European-based players will basically be screwed for their next matches on Saturday. Of course teams have to release them as it is a FIFA date, but I would still fully expect players to be getting "injured" and then recovering for the weekends game. As the local-based players are already going to be playing against Cuba twice the week before, I don't see the point of this match.
The point of this match is that the JFF is judging that Jamaica can at least get that 4th place play-off spot, which will bring them up against the winner of the Oceana confederation...which can only, realistically, be New Zealand...
So, a dry run series of matches against New Zealand is vital to both Jamaica's and New Zealands plans for Brazil 2014...
This is the best thing the JFF has done in the last two years...a playoff against New Zealand will involve the same dynamics of travel, stress, player availibility and health..everything that this practice series will entail.
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New Zealand even if they use all A-league players is excellent preparation, at least from a logistics standpoint. And if we are getting a decent payday, we should take it 100%.
It is at least better than sitting around doing nothing.
The All Whites’ first match of 2012 is shaping up to be a leap-day international against Jamaica in Auckland on February 29.
The All Whites could kick off 2012 at home.
Photosport January 19, 2011
AUCKLAND – The All Whites’ first match of 2012 is shaping up to be a leap-day international against Jamaica in Auckland on February 29.
The fixture still requires formal acceptance from the Jamaica Football Federation and New Zealand Football board approval but comments from JFF President Captain Horace Burrell overnight suggest they are keen to play the game.
The Wednesday evening match against the world number 52 would provide New Zealand coach Ricki Herbert and his charges with an early benchmark for a potential World Cup playoff against a CONCACAF (North and Central American) nation in November 2013.
New Zealand and Jamaica are both poised to begin their Road to Brazil 2014 campaigns in June, in the second stage of Oceania qualifying and CONCACAF’s third round respectively.
With the top team in Oceania squaring off against the fourth placed team in CONCACAF home and away in November 2013 for a place in the 2014 World Cup, and Jamaica currently ranked fifth in their confederation, there is a chance the Reggae Boyz and the All Whites could be squaring off at the end of next year.
It is also a rare instance of New Zealand filling a FIFA one-day window with a home international – in recent years the All Whites have played in Europe, North America and Asia in the shorter windows – but New Zealand Football Chief Executive Grant McKavanagh believes it is worth testing the home waters. “A home test against a top 50 football nation from the CONCACAF region should whet the appetite of the sporting public especially given what may lie ahead with FIFA World Cup qualification in 2013,” McKavanagh said.
“We’ve talked before about bring the national team home more often and while we haven’t tended to do it in these one-day windows due to cost and the tyranny of distance, this would be us putting our money where our mouth is, so to speak, and backing football fans to show us that it will work.”
“We know there’s an appetite for live football – the Phoenix have been the latest to prove that in Auckland recently – and it will be a big coup if we can get this over the line.”
A venue for the proposed match has not been decided yet, although McKavanagh confirmed the match would be in Auckland due to the timeframe involved in getting players in from all over the world. Venue and ticketing details will be announced if and when the game is finalised.
Proposed Match Details New Zealand v Jamaica Auckland Wednesday, February 29 To be confirmed
New Zealand matches in 2012
February 29 v Jamaica, Auckland (tbc)
June 1-12 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers Phase Two / Oceania Nations Cup (Fiji), up to five matches. June 3 v Fiji June 5 v Solomon Islands June 7 v Papua New Guinea June 9 – Semi final* June 11 – Final*
August 15 – International match (away)
September 7-11 – FIFA World Cup Qualifiers Phase Three* (one home, one away)
October 12-16 – FIFA World Cup Qualifiers Phase Three* (one home, one away) *if qualified
The Wednesday evening match against the world number 52 would provide New Zealand coach Ricki Herbert and his charges with an early benchmark for a potential World Cup playoff against a CONCACAF (North and Central American) nation in November 2013.
New Zealand and Jamaica are both poised to begin their Road to Brazil 2014 campaigns in June, in the second stage of Oceania qualifying and CONCACAF’s third round respectively.
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As a Jamaican living in New Zealand I'm excited about our Boyz coming down under. To be a truly international team they have to travel and contend with jetlag, time differences and such - just like any other international team. And as for a 22 hour flight???? My kiwi wife says thats only if you have a stopover. Direct flights from Auckland to London or Los Angeles are around 13 hours. As for the time difference it would actually work in the ReggaeBoyz favour as NZ is ahead of the Northern hemisphere, so in effect they could arrive in NZ on the same day they left! Recovery times are a contentious issue no matter what sport you play - the measure of our ReggaeBoyz will be in how well they cope. The point of this match is to show how well we can do against any team - no matter how far or how close to Jamaica that country is. Do we want the ReggaeBoyz to be the best in the Caribbean or the best in the world???? Would you have complained about them travelling to South Africa for last years World Cup?
New Zealand is a rugby playing country thats only recently becoming an internationl footballing side. Playing against any team whether its for a friendly or not, gives them more experience. This is what the ReggaeBoyz need - more international experience especially against teams we haven't played. Don't underestimate our opponents. That's how games are lost
I remember watching a game sometime ago on Foxsports and the comment from the reporter was that: "the Jamaican National team players are like......... "fine wine............They do not travel well." Judging from the comments that I have seen so far.....Sounds like many of our own supporters agree.
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The All Whites’ first match of 2012 is shaping up to be a leap-day international against Jamaica in Auckland on February 29.
The All Whites could kick off 2012 at home.
Photosport January 19, 2011
AUCKLAND – The All Whites’ first match of 2012 is shaping up to be a leap-day international against Jamaica in Auckland on February 29.
The fixture still requires formal acceptance from the Jamaica Football Federation and New Zealand Football board approval but comments from JFF President Captain Horace Burrell overnight suggest they are keen to play the game.
The Wednesday evening match against the world number 52 would provide New Zealand coach Ricki Herbert and his charges with an early benchmark for a potential World Cup playoff against a CONCACAF (North and Central American) nation in November 2013.
New Zealand and Jamaica are both poised to begin their Road to Brazil 2014 campaigns in June, in the second stage of Oceania qualifying and CONCACAF’s third round respectively.
With the top team in Oceania squaring off against the fourth placed team in CONCACAF home and away in November 2013 for a place in the 2014 World Cup, and Jamaica currently ranked fifth in their confederation, there is a chance the Reggae Boyz and the All Whites could be squaring off at the end of next year.
It is also a rare instance of New Zealand filling a FIFA one-day window with a home international – in recent years the All Whites have played in Europe, North America and Asia in the shorter windows – but New Zealand Football Chief Executive Grant McKavanagh believes it is worth testing the home waters. “A home test against a top 50 football nation from the CONCACAF region should whet the appetite of the sporting public especially given what may lie ahead with FIFA World Cup qualification in 2013,” McKavanagh said.
“We’ve talked before about bring the national team home more often and while we haven’t tended to do it in these one-day windows due to cost and the tyranny of distance, this would be us putting our money where our mouth is, so to speak, and backing football fans to show us that it will work.”
“We know there’s an appetite for live football – the Phoenix have been the latest to prove that in Auckland recently – and it will be a big coup if we can get this over the line.”
A venue for the proposed match has not been decided yet, although McKavanagh confirmed the match would be in Auckland due to the timeframe involved in getting players in from all over the world. Venue and ticketing details will be announced if and when the game is finalized.
Proposed Match Details New Zealand v Jamaica Auckland Wednesday, February 29 To be confirmed
New Zealand matches in 2012
February 29 v Jamaica, Auckland (tbc)
June 1-12 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers Phase Two / Oceania Nations Cup (Fiji), up to five matches. June 3 v Fiji June 5 v Solomon Islands June 7 v Papua New Guinea June 9 – Semi final* June 11 – Final*
August 15 – International match (away)
September 7-11 – FIFA World Cup Qualifiers Phase Three* (one home, one away)
October 12-16 – FIFA World Cup Qualifiers Phase Three* (one home, one away) *if qualified
The All Whites are set to host Jamaica next month. Photo / Getty Images
New Zealand Football has confirmed the All Whites' first match of the year is shaping up to be a clash against Jamaica in Auckland on February 29.
The fixture still requires formal acceptance from the Jamaica Football Federation and New Zealand Football board approval but comments from JFF President Captain Horace Burrell overnight suggest they are keen to play the game.
It would be a good fixture for the All Whites, although it will present difficulties for overseas-based players because of the short window, as they eye qualification for the 2014 World Cup.
With the Oceania winners due to meet the fourth-ranked team from Concacaf (North and Central America) in a playoff for a place in Brazil, New Zealand could well come up against Jamaica. The Reggae Boyz are ranked 52nd in the world and fifth in Concacaf, one spot below Honduras who drew with New Zealand in a friendly following the 2010 World Cup.
The All Whites are presently ranked 118 but a spot around 70 is more accurate. They played only three internationals last year - a 1-1 draw with China in Wuhan and 3-0 defeats to both Mexico and Australia away - which has seen their ranking slide.
NZF have been in discussions with a number of countries, including playing Canada in London, and scrambled this morning to see whether anything had been confirmed against Jamaica after Captain Burrell told the Jamaica Observer newspaper a game against New Zealand would be ideal for their World Cup preparations.
The Fifa website also listed the match on their fixtures list.
"A home test against a top 50 football nation from the CONCACAF region should whet the appetite of the sporting public especially given what may lie ahead with FIFA World Cup qualification in 2013," New Zealand Football Chief Executive Grant McKavanagh said.
"We've talked before about bring the national team home more often and while we haven't tended to do it in these one-day windows due to cost and the tyranny of distance, this would be us putting our money where our mouth is, so to speak, and backing football fans to show us that it will work."
"We know there's an appetite for live football - the Phoenix have been the latest to prove that in Auckland recently - and it will be a big coup if we can get this over the line."
A venue for the proposed match has not been decided yet, although McKavanagh confirmed the match would be in Auckland due to the timeframe involved in getting players in from all over the world. Venue and ticketing details will be announced if and when the game is finalised.
The All Whites and Jamaica previously clashed in 2000, with the Reggae Boyz winning the encounter 2-1.
Home fixtures, while attractive to fans here, are risky ventures financially for NZF and the short international window means it will be a difficult test for the players.
But they need to get active again after a period of inactivity as they build towards the World Cup qualifying campaign in the Oceania Nations Cup in June. The first phase of qualifying is scheduled to take place in Fiji but could be moved elsewhere because of political difficulties.
- APNZ
_________________________ "Victory" in wars are never about who is right or wrong but more about who is left standing.
New Zealand is a rugby playing country thats only recently becoming an internationl footballing side. Playing against any team whether its for a friendly or not, gives them more experience. This is what the ReggaeBoyz need - more international experience especially against teams we haven't played. Don't underestimate our opponents. That's how games are lost
Ras Dave greetings, long way from home man; we see if we can bring a little flavor, a little Jerrk, to ur distant memory down under, Ha ha.
Yes this is a good trip regardless of the KIWI rankimg, and we shouldn't take them lightly.
Mt Smart confirmed for All Whites' ASB Summer International
The All Whites will return to the scene of some of their most celebrated victories with Mt Smart Stadium selected for New Zealand’s now-confirmed February 29 ASB Summer International against Jamaica.
January 26, 2012
AUCKLAND – The All Whites will return to the scene of some of their most celebrated victories with Mt Smart Stadium selected for New Zealand’s now-confirmed February 29 ASB Summer International against Jamaica.
In 22 'A' Internationals at Mt Smart, the All Whites have tasted defeat just four times and posted notable victories over China, Japan, Israel, Australia (three times) and a then-World record 13-0 thumping of Fiji in 1981.
England visited in 1991 to celebrate New Zealand Football’s centenary and the ground has also hosted matches against a USSR XI, Glasgow Rangers, Newcastle United, and Watford.
Many of New Zealand’s 13 wins at Mt Smart came in 1981 during a memorable run to New Zealand’s first appearance at a FIFA World Cup.
New Zealand coach Ricki Herbert, who scored the winner against China and a crucial 87th minute equaliser against Saudi Arabia at the ground during that campaign – and two years later would score a match winner against Australia – has fond memories of the ground.
"Obviously the win over China and the draw against the Saudis have special resonance with me but that '82 campaign had so many highlights," Herbert said.
"The crowds building as our momentum did, Steve Sumner scoring six in one game and even the drama against Kuwait is still pretty vivid not just for me but probably for lots of fans as well."
"I was also assistant coach when Ryan Nelsen scored against Australia to send us to the Confederations Cup so I've been lucky enough to be involved in some big results. The national team have got a pretty good record there and we'll be looking for another good result against a talented Jamaican outfit to kick-start our 2014 campaign."
New Zealand Football has confirmed that reserved seating tickets will be priced at just $29 dollars for adults and $15 for children, with equivalent seats in a family zone on the embankment set at $25 and $10 respectively. A family pass of two adults and two children in the family zone will cost $60.
"We’re setting our stall out to get as many people in as possible and create the kind of atmosphere that only a football crowd can," said New Zealand Football Chief Executive Grant McKavanagh.
"A summer evening kick off is a bit of a novelty for an All Whites match, Jamaica are a very entertaining side and we’ll be close to full strength so we’re expecting a healthy turnout." McKavanagh also reminded fans to get in early.
"We know football fans tend to be part of a walk up crowd but we saw the danger of that from the Phoenix match in Auckland recently. We have priced the game affordably to encourage fans to get their tickets as early as possible."
Members of White Noise (aka Yellow Fever) will be given first bite at tickets on Friday during a one-day pre-sale for the White Noise zone followed by a football club pre-sale beginning on Saturday. Tickets go on public sale on Wednesday via Ticketek.
The match is likely to be the last outing before New Zealand begins its FIFA World Cup qualifying campaign at the Oceania Nations Cup in June.
A 17-man New Zealand squad will be announced in February. ASB Summer International New Zealand v Jamaica Mt Smart Stadium February 29, 2012 Kickoff: 7.30pm Ticket details Reserved seating: Adults $29, Children $15 Embankment: Adults $25, Children $10, Family (2 adults + 2 children) $60 Purchase from http://www.ticketek.co.nz
Corporate Lounge: $99 (includes carvery) Corporate boxes: 12 person - $1600, 16 person - $2500, 26 person - $3500 Purchase from http://www.mtsmartstadium.com
All Whites at Mt Smart Stadium ('A' internationals) Played 22, won 13, drawn 5, lost 4
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