Jermaine Beckford scored again today with a injury time equaliser in a 2-2 draw against Middlesborough which leaves his Leicester team slipping further and further away from the playoffs. Meanwhile Marlon Kings Birmingham are now in 4th place, 5 points away from 2nd place with a game in hand after their emphatic win yesterday. Jobi McAnuff's Reading team are now 1 point and 1 place outside the playoffs but McAnuff has just returned from injury, Kebe will soon return and Jason Roberts is now on board so they have a very good chance of promotion. There is a very good chance that 1 or even 2 more reggae boyz will be in the Premier league next season.
I sent a message to the JFF on facebook a few days ago and they sent me a message back saying they will forward my suggestion to their technical staff. In the message I said that I am happy about them making moves to improve the team but that we need a right back and playing Austin out of position is not the answer and Danny Simpson is the answer. Maybe they will ignore what I said but we need to try everything possible to influence them. Today I sent them another message calling for McAnuff to return to our team. Everybody please hit up facebook and send them a message because 1 message they might ignore but hundreds saying the same thing cannot be ignored. Bring back Jobi McAnuff and call up Simpson. We need to pressure them into doing it because it looks like they probably wont otherwise.
Costa Rica has quality...but an inconsistent mentality, especially when put under intense physical pressure...out of the top 3 quality teams, they are the easier opponent to beat...and Jamaica has beaten them in the past when it really counted.
Everytime I read one of your post you lose a little more credibility. Right now you are in minus territory. I will like to see when Jamaica beat CRica when it REALLY, REALLY counted. you must be confusing CRica with El Salvador or Honduras.
I assume you are a big man, but like an immature child you let personal feelings influence your reasoning. I stayed off the forum to give you a little time fi compose yuself, but I see it didn't help.
You never hear a peep out of Jamaicans in the run up to an encounter against CRica like you hear them bragging about upcoming games against Mexico, USA or even African and South American teams. Guess why? I always said you guys pay CRica way more respect than they deserve, but that doesn't mean you have to jump to the other extreme either.
I personally have always seen CRica as one of the strongest team mentally in the region and one of the least skillfull. With the exportation of our players we have lost our mental edge. Our current vulnerability is in matching skills against skills with our opponents. You probably haven't seen to many CRican games and are attributing their success to "quality", but believe me when I tell you that their success is more a testament to their will to win rather than what we refer to as "quality".
I will say 90% of CRica wins the other team thought they should've won because they had the more and clearer chances, and I personally agree with them.
CRica have never outclassed a team and lost, but they have been outclassed in 90% of their wins yet found a way to get the results. That's a mentally inconsistent team?
I see Ric is finally taking my advise about playing Fuller in the midfield. He should've been playing the midfield from forever. The man is just not a pure striker. The only pure striker on the squad is Luton, not even Cummings. If the formation calls for a lone striker then Luton should start IMHO. A 2 forward formation is more of a toss-up as to who starts.
I have been told you are the man to talk to on the forum so can we expect to see McAnuff, Simpson or Nosworthy in our squad anytime soon ? Everybody is aware of our defensive problems and in Nosworthy we have a centre back who is performing well, has the ability to improve our defence and he's not being selected. We have also had a big problem with creativity in our midfield and I appreciate us trying to solve it by contacting Pratley but McAnuff is much better and in McAnuff we have probably the best attacking midfield player in concacaf and hes not being used either. Another problem we have is that we have no right backs. We have put Austin there recently but Danny Simpson is 1 of the best right backs in th EPL so surely it would wise to get in contact with him because he qualifies to represent us and has no chance of playing for England due to the competition in that position.
Jermaine Johnson has done it again today. He has just scored another great goal and he continues to put pressure on Tappa to recall him. Thats 3 amazing individual goals in his last 5 matches, he is the man in form in terms of Jamaican wingers and not recalling him would be stupid at this stage.
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I see Ric is finally taking my advise about playing Fuller in the midfield. He should've been playing the midfield from forever. The man is just not a pure striker. The only pure striker on the squad is Luton, not even Cummings. If the formation calls for a lone striker then Luton should start IMHO. A 2 forward formation is more of a toss-up as to who starts.
Marlon King is our best pure striker..Shelton have to take second place to him on that. Fuller is our most creative player.
I see Ric is finally taking my advise about playing Fuller in the midfield. He should've been playing the midfield from forever. The man is just not a pure striker. The only pure striker on the squad is Luton, not even Cummings. If the formation calls for a lone striker then Luton should start IMHO. A 2 forward formation is more of a toss-up as to who starts.
Marlon King is our best pure striker..Shelton have to take second place to him on that. Fuller is our most creative player.
King is back in the fold? Ok then. That moves Luton to 2nd on the depth chart for pure strikers.
I see Ric is finally taking my advise about playing Fuller in the midfield. He should've been playing the midfield from forever. The man is just not a pure striker. The only pure striker on the squad is Luton, not even Cummings. If the formation calls for a lone striker then Luton should start IMHO. A 2 forward formation is more of a toss-up as to who starts.
Welcome back Pele we miss U; a see seh Ric Draw you out. Him mussy a laugh him head off cause I think he purposely drop that CR piece to see if yu deh bout. Another round a argument coming up I guess....
We all know seh Fuller should have being our attacking midfielder. I know we haven't seen all our friendlies especially the ones in South America, with Argentina when Fuller played. and many other friendlies where he wasn't called. So i'm not sure whether or not Tappa tried him in that role.
At one point his knees weren't good enough to do all that work, so that could be the reason he wasn't used there, and I believe that to be the case. Now he's healthy maybe we may see something different this time.
I see Ric is finally taking my advise about playing Fuller in the midfield. He should've been playing the midfield from forever. The man is just not a pure striker. The only pure striker on the squad is Luton, not even Cummings. If the formation calls for a lone striker then Luton should start IMHO. A 2 forward formation is more of a toss-up as to who starts.
Welcome back Pele we miss U; a see seh Ric Draw you out. Him mussy a laugh him head off cause I think he purposely drop that CR piece to see if yu deh bout. Another round a argument coming up I guess....
We all know seh Fuller should have being our attacking midfielder. I know we haven't seen all our friendlies especially the ones in South America, with Argentina when Fuller played. and many other friendlies where he wasn't called. So i'm not sure whether or not Tappa tried him in that role.
At one point his knees weren't good enough to do all that work, so that could be the reason he wasn't used there, and I believe that to be the case. Now he's healthy maybe we may see something different this time.
I agree King is our most clinical striker for sure, Beckford is just as clinical in front of goal but of all the options who have played for us before none of them can finish like King.
Fuller is definately our most creative player aswell and putting him in a deeper position behind the main striker would work in my opinion. The only problem with that is that hes not getting alot of game time at Stoke so hes not fully match fit and when he comes off the bench for Stoke he looks like he tires quickly when I watch him but his technical skill and ability are way above anyone else that we have so the role suits him if he can handle the work that comes with playing deeper. The idea has been suggested many times by Ric and Hamilton, I just hope Tappa hears you all.
I sent a video of McAnuff to the JFF on facebook and I expect that to be enough to make them call him. Everybody on the forum has seen video's of him and everybody agrees that we need to call him back, only a idiot would say otherwise after watching him in action and I dont expect the JFF to be fool.
I agree that most players werent working hard enough against the USA. I think that they tried to work hard at the start but when they started to struggle against USA'S extra man in midfield, they gave up and stopped working to get the ball back. I understand the players being frustrated because its understandable when you are playing against a stronger team and your system is making it impossible to get close to the oppsition and shut them down but Ryan Johnson never gave up and we cant afford to have players in our team giving up when things are going badly. That is definately something the English born players will not do. Fitness was definately not the problem like you said, Austin, Morrison, Thomas, Taylor, Williams, Shelton, Johnson, Richards and Phillips were all full time profesionals at the time, I think only Vernan was based in Jamaica so lack of fitness is no excuse.
Reggae boy I like your reasoning on this topic. Tappa made a huge mistake in his formation. You are the few who seems to understand that once that becomes an accepted fact there is not much more else to say, the formation laid the foundation for everything bad that came afterwards. It would've been a mistake for JA to play the USA with that formation in a league game, if they were in a league, much less in an elimination game of a tournament. I've never seen that before, then I saw it twice in the same tournament. Incredibly the USA turned around and played the same formation against Mexico in the final.
Fatigue does come into play because when you are chasing against a better team you not only get frustrated, but you are also bound to get tired. Jamaica not known as a possession team became even less so in this formation which means the USA had most of the possession which kept JA in a perpetual chasing mode. Richards was the first to burn-out. He was a big focus of the defenders at the beginning of the game. When he stopped showing for balls the USA defenders started becoming more offensive-minded, putting even more pressure on an already outmanned midfield.
I don't know how familiar you are with the region, but bad formation causing you to be outplayed is the least a player has to put up with, and playing for JA means even more burden to put up with.
English born players might be professional enough to overcome the frustration of being outplayed or things not going their way on the field, which I doubt judging from the lack of resolve exhibit by their BIG brother, the even more professional UK senior team. For argument sake I will go with the superior professionalism making a difference reasoning, but I will be concern if they can overcome dealing with the JFF administrative blunders, sharing one towel, traveling snafus, upheaval in camp, risking their million dollar careers representing a country many don't hold as their first choice against reckless players with comparable nothing to lose since they make less in a year than the UK players make in a week, the weather, mosquitoes, looking up in the stands in the USA only to find your fans outnumbered 5 to 1, being assaulted verbally and physically on the road by the fans, yet you come home to the office to find your fans being very hospitable and accomodating to the opponent and their fans.
The one saving grace is that these UK players might just assume that being outnumbered 5 to 1 in the USA by fans from other countries is a reflection of the representation in the USA of those countries vis a vis JA. We all know that is not the case.
My hope is that people appreciate what is really being asked of these UK players. It is a lot more than just rolling ball. It takes a special person to be mentally and physically prepared to represent JA.
CONCACAF humanizes the most professional of players. There is nothing ideal about playing in the region, there is very little to gain for a UK player and everything to lose. They are not really showcasing for European teams. Natives that play in other leagues are increasingly finding new creative ways to refuse call-ups and when they do show-up they create disharmony in the camp and dog it on the field. Not all, but it is increasingly becoming a problem throughout the region.
The fallout with the UK players in the past is not just a matter of them taking jobs from local players, as some would like us to believe, but also, rightly or wrongly, a perception when the team doesn't triumph that the UK players are not as committed to JA's cause, and the team hasn't triumph in a while. It might be a wrong/invalid argument, but it is a natural and expected card for a yahd person to draw.
I understand the arguement about the commitment of English born ballas being less for the cause than yard born ballas. It is a understandable arguement but thats why we need to not just recruit anybody who is willing to play and qualifies. We need ballas who have a strong mentality to deal with the circumstances that you stated and we need players who love the country to ensure that we have players that will give ervything to the cause. Marvin Elliot is 1 of the players recently brought into the squad and it is clear that he loves the country and has regular contact with the island and the other 2 that have recently been added have Jamaican mothers and fathers so it is reasonable to expect them to love the country and have a tough mentality due to their Jamaican upbringings so I believe they are probably suited to the task. However we need to be more careful when calling up players who qualify through family further back in generations, Tappa needs to meet them and review their charactors aswell as their footballing ability. I have family who's Jamaican roots are further back and they are all proud of their roots so we cant assume that people do not love the country and will not give their all to the cause because they qualify through grandparents for eg. Also what you said about the problem with the tactics at the Gold cup nobody else posting on the issue on the forum seems to agree with. However, football is far more tiring when you dont have the ball. Barcelona are the best at keeping the ball in world football and their record of scoring late is excellent because they pass their opposition to death throughout the game and their opposing teams usually tire towards the end even when the matches are tight. If you set up your team in a way that means they will not be able to retain the ball, its understandable that they will tire quicker than the opponents and our formation at the Gold cup gave us that problem. I dont believe that Jamaican players dont work as hard as others and I believe its a harmful stereotype. Also what you said about people being upset because Foreign born players are taking opportunities away from Yard born ballas is understandable but me and all the other sensible people on the forum are not asking for our home grown ballas to be cast aside. We just want good players to compliment the quality we already have and theres no doubt that we already have alot of quality, we just want us to be as good as we can be and adding McAnuff, Hoilett, Beckford, Simpson and Nosworthy to the squad would make us much better and everybody must realise that.
I was watching Newcasstle v Aston Villa today and saw James Perch the versatile defender Newcastle signed from Nottingham Forest. He was playing well in a defensive midfield role and like I do when I see any player who I think may qualify to play for us, I typed in his name on google with footballer of Jamaican descent. My search revealed that Perch is actually of Jamaican and Grenadian descent. Perch is a decent right back but he can play anywhere across the backline and can also play defensive midfield which he did today and last saturday for Newcastle. With his versatility, he is definately a good option to have in our squad so the the JFF need to contact both him and Simpson which would probably help encourage them to play for us, knowing somebody who is playing for us aswell. Perch was Nottingham Forests captain when he was there but he has taken time to impress the Newcastle fans. This is his 2nd season at the club and he is now showing why Newcastle signed him. We need to contact him and Simpson together and correct this backline problem that everybody on the forum knows we have.
Also what you said about people being upset because Foreign born players are taking opportunities away from Yard born ballas is understandable but me and all the other sensible people on the forum are not asking for our home grown ballas to be cast aside. We just want good players to compliment the quality we already have and theres no doubt that we already have alot of quality, we just want us to be as good as we can be and adding McAnuff, Hoilett, Beckford, Simpson and Nosworthy to the squad would make us much better and everybody must realise that.
Actually what I said was that people were NOT just upset over the prospect of the UK born players taking away opportunities from Yahd ballas.
That was part of the concern, but not the overall concern as some try to make it out to be as a wedge issue.
No doubt the formation at the Gold cup was wrong but Tappa is young and learning. He is aware of the mistakes he made because he has already changed our formation and I expect us to perform better against the U.S in the qualifiers. We are not far away from being capable of achieving something great. No team in the region is much better than us in terms of talent and with some additions to our roster we will be a competitive team in the 2014 qualifiers. We are expecting Hoilett, Pratley and Beckford to join the squad which will bring us a step closer to where we need to be and we have some defensive problems but if Damion Stewart and Nyron Nosworthy return and we recruit a right back along with making Williamson and McAnuff return, I will expect us to be a force in the forthcoming campaign. When the squad is announced for the New Zealand friendly we will know where we are but we have reason to be positive now that the captain is back. I have informed the JFF about James Perch via facebook, I have sent them a video of McAnuff and told them to recruit Simpson and if they listen like I hope they will, we will have nobody to fear in Concacaf so keep the faith everybody.
These players that you've mentioned are the core of recruits that will complete the Jamaica side...along with recalling the veterans who are on top form and have a track record of producing winning performances and results.
There's questions concerning Pratley but having him in the squad as an option still makes Jamaica a stronger squad and...the key postions that needed strengthening from the GC squad has been covered.
If Jamaica can actually get the agreement and committment from these newer players, then the game is on..convincing the veterans to return to the squad will be more about convincing them that Jamaica is serious about getting to Brazil 2014.
I badly want to see Jobi McAnuff in a Jamaica jersey again...Jamaica has NO ONE as good as him as an attacking midfileder right now.
With proven players like Fuller, King, Shelton, Cummings et al, I don't see goals as Jamaica's problem in this qualifying campaign...a cohesive and creative midfield and solid defense is where the managerial staff needs to concentrate their efforts.
I'm beginning to actually anticipate watching a new Jamaica side play again...something I couldn't say after the match against the USA at the GC...I don't really care about no count practice matches as far as results go but a decent side should at least hold its own in these matches but it is the serious stuff that counts...and I anticiapte seeing a very good Jamaica side coming together now.
Him mussy a laugh him head off cause I think he purposely drop that CR piece to see if yu deh bout. Another round a argument coming up I guess....
