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Reggae Boyz off for friendly against Ecuador
The nine local based players in the 19-member Reggae Boyz squad for the upcoming friendly against Ecuador are scheduled to leave Jamaica on Tuesday, August 30 for Quito, the capital of the South American country.
The Jamaicans, who will also play Colombia in Florida, had a goal-less draw against Waterhouse in a practice game against water house on Sunday, August 28.
Under-23 mid fielder Andre Vanzie of Portmore United and Troy Smith of Village United will only be considered for the game against Ecuador on September 2.
They will be replaced by Errol Stevens of Arnett Gardens and Ewan Gordon of Portmore for the September 6 friendly against Colombia at the Lockhart Stadium in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Lovell Palmer and Jason Morrison will also be available for the game against Colombia
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Squad for Colombia match in Ft. Lauderdale
Dwayne Miller Omar Cummings Ryan Johnson Shavar Thomas Jermaine Taylor Demar Phillips Damion Williams Rudolph Austin Jevaughn Watson Dane Richards Eric Vernon Xavian Virgo Adrian Reid Richard Edwards Errol Stevens Richard Mccallum Keneil Moodie Montrose Phinn Ewan Grandison/Gordon (not sure of the spelling) Lovel Palmer Jason Morrison
Replaced by Errol who and Ewan what?They better be better than the two players they replacing?They were not even in the original 22 local based.Why not Earle instead or Adlam?
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. . .had Errol here with my team during the Summer. He scored 5 goals and a number of assists in Arnett's run to the KO trophy they just won so glad to see him getting an opportunity.
Why cant Tappa call the real Reggae Boyz names that are used to Jamaica football fans same like other countries why cant we just use who can play and we all know their names this flipping experimenting has to stop!!!!!! TIRED OF THEIS JAMAICA B-Team. only Ryan Johnson,omar cummings,dane richards,demar phillps and shavar thomas are true jamiaca ballers,richard macallum the rest are waste!!!!!
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Full time tappa step down and leave forever(no more dunse/badmind coach).....
Why cant Tappa call the real Reggae Boyz names that are used to Jamaica football fans same like other countries why cant we just use who can play and we all know their names this flipping experimenting has to stop!!!!!! TIRED OF THEIS JAMAICA B-Team. only Ryan Johnson,omar cummings,dane richards,demar phillps and shavar thomas are true jamiaca ballers,richard macallum the rest are waste!!!!!
Good question, but by beating up on Tappa without trying to get to the bottom of what is really going on is doing JA football no good.
Can we all agree that Burrell knew good and well who Jamaica 'best' players were when he wanted to topple Boxhill? Anyone disagree with that? Can we also agree that Burrell specifically promised to have JA's 'best' players on the field whenever Jamaica plays? Anyone disagree with that? The man even took Bora to court for breach for doing the unthinkable of trying to develop the yutes.
Despite all these promises he blamed the WC qualifier's debacle on Simoes and everyone swallow that garbage and provided him with an out, forgetting that even if Simoes had selected those players Burrell still had the obligation to overrule him as he clearly should know which players give Jamaica the best chance to succeed, even more than Simoes did. Unless we believe Simoes was in Brazil following Jamaican football 2 years prior to being selected. Lets give the Simoes was at fault argument the benefit of the doubt by covering our noses and accepting that Burrell was mesmerized/hypnotized by Simoes past accomplishments and magician moniker, and despite his reservation decided to put his and Jamaica's fate in Simoes' hands and allowed him to select the team, which miraculously resulted in the elimination of basically all the acknowledge 'first' teamers. Simoes was supposedly also unwilling to coach players accomplish enough to challenge him. We know that Burrell snapped out of this stupor, because he fired Simoes and again promised to have the 'best' players available whenever Jamaica took the field. We know that he clearly knows who the 'best' players are, because for the remaining games of the qualifiers we and he saw them perform admirably.
He brought in Barnes and Barnes first proclamation was that the acknowledged 'best' players would be favoured because he has bigger plans for himself than Jamaica football and can't afford to have the yutes mess up his timetable. Now we have Barnes and Burrell on the same page. Both will be playing the "best" that Jamaica has to offer. Last time we saw Barnes he discarded the acknowledged 'best' players and was fervently working with the yutes. Am I correct Ric? I think it was you, actually I know it was you, who was beating up on Tappa for bringing the first team players to the 2009 GC instead of the yutes Barnes was working with. My, my how much difference a few years make?
Now we get to Tappa. The narrative now seems to be that Tappa don't feel comfortable coaching accomplished UK based players, therefore this Jamaican hero is allowing his own self-doubt and insecurities to hamper Jamaica's and all Jamaicans' football aspirations and dreams. Let say I hold my nose again and go along with that notion...how do I get pass the real kicker, as if there could be anymore, that Burrell is supposedly allowing this neophyte, who he himself doesn't seem to have much confidence in, to jeopardized Jamaica's football future, and more importantly his legacy? This sure doesn't jive with the Burrell we love to cuss.
additionally everybody seems to conveniently forget that the 'best' players have played their best ball and behaved the best when they were coached by Tappa, excluding '09 GC which was not the best of situation for any coach.
Every interview I have read Burrell referred to Tappa as a neophyte coach on the rise, and everybody knows that Tappa doesn't have much/any options outside of his current job. Following the GC Jamaica's underperformance was blamed on Tappa leaving the 'best' players home, therefore that notion was firmly out there, led by Ric who obviously didn't remember that he was saying the exact opposite 2 years prior. On that backdrop Burrell secured 2 games with formidable opponents and has gone on the record once more saying that Jamaica will be sporting 'strong' teams for these 2 upcoming games. Now we are left to believe once more that the neophyte coach has gone against the wishes of his benefactor/boss, we all know him best as the tyrant/dictator/narcissist, and presented a weaker team than the one that participated in the just concluded GC.
Just trying to logically think this through.
Why keep spinning unnu wheel? Go to Burrell and ask him directly why he is allowing Tappa to continuously go against HIS stated wishes and lets hear what he has to say.
This mystery has gone on long enough. Who are Jamaica's best players in Burrell's estimation? And are he and Tappa on the same page? These are the only relevant questions going forward.
This mystery has gone on long enough. Who are Jamaica's best players in Burrell's estimation? And are he and Tappa on the same page? These are the only relevant questions going forward.
This is where you've made a valid point and asked the relevant question, Pelepappa.
Most ites following the normal football rules, including myself, by holding the coach responsible for who gets called into the squad although, we should alredy know, that in Jamaica's case, the squad is picked for him.
That is a disappointing set of circumstances, as we will always have doubts about Tappa's true estimation and opinions of what Jamaica's side should look and play like but...
At the end of the day, he is the one held responsible for Jamaica's performances and results so we must also hold him responsible for the squad selected.
EricD as far as we've heard the individual probably with the questionably commitment/attitude toward Jamaica is Jermaine Pennant. I wish this is not true but it's what we've heard thou he hasn't said anything public.
Unless it's expressed before hand the JJF won't know who's not committed until they pursue these prospects.
Imagine a Dean Sturridge expressing how much he loves Jamaica and travels there any free time he gets, this is opportunity begging to be seized.
Sturridge did say that if England come calling he would respond; but I believe if the JFF armed with great vision for the future and present a credible product to Sturridge, who knows what could happen.
The JFF is not proactive enough. Jamaica is in a very unique situation at this time where so many quality players are available to us, and it seems they don't know how to go about this.
When was the Last time Burrel himself went to England on a fact finding mission, to personally meet/talk and shake hands with players that's high on the list? This is too important a situation for Burrel to leave to members of his staff to handle and deal with by themselves.
I can name 5 players right now that if I was in charge of the JFF that in the off season in England I would arrange a friendly (on a FIFA match day).
Afterwards arrange some kind of banquet, having all the important football dignataries associate with Jamaican football present: Allan 'skill' Cole, John Barnes, Robbie Earl, Fitzroy Simpson, Frank Sinclair, Deon Burton (you 'ites knows these local players more than I)etc.
I would invite first and foremost Dean Sturridge, Chris Humphries, Darren Pratley, Zavon Hines, Jermaine Beckford, & yes Jermaine Pennant; plus other players in England who have already stated they want to play for Jamaica.
I would lay out a comprehensive plan for the future; but start out by looking back, using slides & old footages recalling the greats in Jamaican football.
I would impress upon them our football legacy; the '98 WC included, Pele coming to Jamaica, & statements Brazilians coaches said about our football); our love of football.
Letting them know we are in a unique situation where our rankings are the best since '98 WC. That so many EPL players are available to us unlike any other era.
I would use the argument to say John Barnes who played for England, a star at that time had to play for England and not Jamaica. That Jamaica football weren't in a place to accomodate a player of the stature of John Barnes. But today that has change.
We now possess not only the stature, but we have now putting in place a more professional football infrastructure in Jamaica. Thou modest, we are making it mandatory for coaches to have licences, etc. And the results of this we have more local base players coming through getting contracts abroad.
That he, Burrell is now acting President of the Caribbean football Union (something of that sort). That the JFF is adhering to international standards of football locally and foreign, and each player will be treated professionally unlike the miscues of the past.
I would show clips of that impressive qualifying run to the '98 cup with Fitsroy Simpson running our defensive middle, Deon Burton etc.
I would also show them clips of our Carribean championship, and also show them clip of our Triumph over Honduras in GCC, and let them see where our weakness lies with clips from the USA match. I would impress upon Sturridge & Pennant that if we had them in the middle of our pitch we would possible come away with a result from the USA match.
I believe if Burrell committs himself to a comprehensive plan to attract the very best in England we'll come away with a few.
Personally my mind would be on the 2 biggest fish in the room and that would be Sturridge & Pennant.
I believe If we could get these 2 to committ to Jamaica, then it will be a dominoe effect for others who are lesser talent than them.
This is what the JFF urgently need to understand that if you ketch the big fish then the smaller fish will fall too. Landing Sturridge alone can cause a dominoe effect.
Believe me 'ites if Sturridge & Pennant stand up in our midfield we'll very hard to beat in Concacaf; and this is what BURRELL would need to impressed vehemently upon the UK 'ites.
Whatever financial sacrifice (more so investment) to be made to make this possible will no doubt come back in great returns when we land these respected professionals and we start beating good teams.
The Day when Jamaica is realisticly capable of beating the USA or Mexico is the day when the Jamaican crowds come back to the stands.
The JFF has to come with a credible football plan for the future inclusive of all local base and foreign base.
We have to build from the top (uninvited UK base) down as well from the bottom (local Base) up.
Without the JFF taking this kind, or a similar approach to our foreign base, their idea of being a consistent top 3 side in concacaf is nothing more than a joke.
It's actually retinking step on part of the JFF of how they can launch this Jamaica football into a new spotlight.
It would takes courage to implement an approach such as this, where you don't know what the outcome will be.
Does Burrell rate the English Premier League highly, does he thinks an influx of EPL players can significantly affect concacaf hierarchy? we are not sure.
The way i see it, if gold is within reach, accessable at limited cost which could provide great returns if invested in, who would not launch out and acquire knowing that the rewards outweighs the risk?
The ownness is on Burrell not Tappa. He's the big man at top making the decisions. He's responsible for the direction of Jamaica football not Tappa.
There has to be a new thinking toward the English base, becuase there so much quality there and without a plan things don't get done.
With so many players involved it's not enough for a JFF official to just sit in an office, on a computer trying to make sense of who they are go after. To me this is a poor man's approach.
When the JFF were trying to establish links in Brazil they use all the diplomacy, former coaches to puls strings, spend money and now they have good relations with football organizations in Brazil. Do they think it will take a lesser approach to attract the very best of EPL players, and even those we don't know about? I think not.
Some strings need to be pulled here, some diplomacy, some former greats in England need to be on board. I believe we have not utilize John Barnes to our potential.
Burrell really need to step up his game here and put on his thinking cap if he expects Jamaica football to come out of mediocrity into top 3 Concacaf spotlight.
Unnu mean to tell me that no one in the media misses the acknowledged 'first' string players to at least inquire as to the plan for their inclusion in the squad? Furthermore the media, who are always trying to create news even where none exist suddenly became deaf to the loud grumbling from the fans. Even if the fans are misguided, as they usually are, the increase grumbling is newsworthy. I don't remember reading a media interview with a Jamaican fan at a game. True it might be hard to find a Jamaican fan at a game, but...LOL. All I keep reading in the media are these puff pieces.
In most countries if a particular player(s) was not on the team, particularly in a tournament or an important game, the media would not only bring it to the readers' attention, but they will also inquire as to why the particular player(s) was not on the squad. This constant badgering irks coaches and football administrators, and most time you get the same scripted answers, but at least you are in their ears.
I bet you if an Ecuadorian or Colombian first stringer is excluded from the team there will be comments on this very site as to the reasons why, yet no one has any idea why acknowledged first string Jamaican players, forget about the Sturridges and Pennants who have never played for JA, are consistently excluded from the squad. There is an answer and we must demand it.
I am a strong advocate for establishing 2nd and even 3rd string teams as part of developing a national team programme, without any consideration to FIFA rankings, but approaching tournament time, or during tournaments only the best players from these teams should be selected to form a compliment to the established 1st stringers.
Does anyone else find it strange how in JA the 1st stringers seem to be selected as a group or excluded as a group? Strange indeed. It is as if they are a package deal. LOL.
Well i know that every reggae boyz fans is upset by the selections that our current JFF are making but u have to realize that not all the players want to play for jamaica....for e.g. JERMAINE PENNANT, he would rather play for Ireland than to play for us...and DANIEL STURRIDGE, its only a matter of time before he plays for england so that would be a waste of time calling him up.... Now to the players we do have like RICARDO FULLER N RICARDO GARDENER, CLAUDE DAVIS, AND THE STEWARTS....they are all 32 plus n wud not make any sense to be called up bcuz they will be too old for the squad for 2014...so even though im upset about our defense line n been humiliated by Ecuador im nt too worried about it bcuz even J.TAYLOR N DIC.WILLIAMS didnt play yesterday so i wouldnt be too worried about that....
Good question, but by beating up on Tappa without trying to get to the bottom of what is really going on is doing JA football no good.
But shouldn't Tappa expressed what's going on too?
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Go to Burrell and ask him directly why he is allowing Tappa to continuously go against HIS stated wishes and lets hear what he has to say.
I couldn't have agreed with you more. I blamed the Jamaican media for not asking the tough questions. We as supporter need to held these reporters accountable. We should be spewing venom at the garbage reporting that often publish at the end of each matches by the media houses in Jamaica.
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"The heights of great men reach and kept were not attained by sudden flight..." - Henry Longfellow
As we look ahead to Tuesday, here is some food for thought. We'll see how Tappa's "ball possession" game looks at sea level.
Gutierrez 2 goals, Colombia beats Honduras 2-0
HARRISON, N.J. (AP)—Teofilo Gutierrez scored two goals, one on penalty kick in the first half and the other with his team down a man in the second, leading Colombia to a 2-0 victory over Honduras in an international friendly Saturday night at Red Bull Arena.
“This is the first step toward qualifying for the World Cup in 2014,” interim coach Leonel Alvarez said. “We’re building a team with good soccer players, but also good human beings. It’s a dream of mine to take this team further. It’s in the hands of the federation to decide who coaches. We’re just continuing the process.”
Alvarez took over the team after Hernan Dario Gomez, nicknamed “El Bolillo,” was removed from his coaching duties after he admitted punching a female fan in the face repeatedly in a bar.
“To take over the coaching position under those circumstances is never good,” Alvarez said. “El Bolillo is the heart of this team and we dedicated this game to him. There was no bigger honor to coach with him. On behalf of him and the entire country, we intend to move forward now.”
Gomez stepped down Aug. 8.
“He asked me to take it over,” Alvarez said. “He had a dream to take this team to the World Cup and when he sees this young team, he can see the passion and the hard work it will take to get it done.”
In the 24th minute, Gutierrez was pulled down from behind in the box by defender Victor Bermudez and referee Jorge Gonzalez called for the penalty kick. Gutierrez took the attempt and faked right, but touched it left and it went past goalkeeper Noel Valladares.
In the 72nd minute, after Colombia lost a player to a red-card disqualification, Gutierrez alertly knocked in a rebound off a shot by Dayro Moreno.
Colombia dominated play from the outset and had many more scoring chances than Honduras and twice hit the left post with shots in the first half. Honduras had two good chances in the 37th minute, but one attempt slid wide right of the goal and Maynor Figueroa fired a shot from close range over the crossbar after avoiding three Colombian defenders in the process.
Figueroa was fouled hard from behind in the 55th minute by Colombian forward Adrian Ramos, causing Gonzalez to issue a red card against Ramos. Colombia played the remainder of the game down a man.
Colombian goalkeeper David Opsina made only two saves in the second half to gain the shutout.
“We have to start a game a little more aggressively than this,” Honduran coach Luis Fernando Suarez said. “We allowed them to keep the ball way more than we wanted them to. We respected the opponent way too much tonight and that was the bottom line.”
Well i know that every reggae boyz fans is upset by the selections that our current JFF are making but u have to realize that not all the players want to play for jamaica....for e.g. JERMAINE PENNANT, he would rather play for Ireland than to play for us...and DANIEL STURRIDGE, its only a matter of time before he plays for england so that would be a waste of time calling him up.... Now to the players we do have like RICARDO FULLER N RICARDO GARDENER, CLAUDE DAVIS, AND THE STEWARTS....they are all 32 plus n wud not make any sense to be called up bcuz they will be too old for the squad for 2014...so even though im upset about our defense line n been humiliated by Ecuador im nt too worried about it bcuz even J.TAYLOR N DIC.WILLIAMS didnt play yesterday so i wouldnt be too worried about that....
NOW GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU THINK???
KAM, you need to update your file of all the available and potential players we have in top flight football in England, and it doesn't even include BIBI, CLAUDE, STEW PEAS etc.
we are talking about a new generation of yutes of Jamaican heritage....
