Bwoy Ric dunno bout da one deh mi dan. Spanish people serious bout dem thing, I felt like I was in San Jose last time I pre CR in Fl without Saborio, Barrantes and a few others. Besides who are Costa Rica's big guns presently anyway, they seem more like a bunch of blue collar workers @ present bar Ruiz and the emerging Campbell. Still didn't seem to dampen the enthusiasm for their national representatives.
Mi not arguing both yours and Pelepappa's point that C. Rica is usually well supported in S. Florida; my point is that C. Rica have never showed up with a weak side, at least not in my experience.
The difference in standard of football in C. Rica and Jamaica is big so to compare a totally local-picked C. Rican side and a side or squad of predominantly local players, as Jamaica has done in these two matches makes no sense.
Maybe Jamaica will now see the light, as I think that they have done after these two matches, that the average standard of the local DPL players is nowhere what is requred to do well at the international level of football.
Having too many of these players in the squad/team only carries down the performance of the better players in the team and the entire team performance, itself.
This is not a fact that some Jamaican supporters find easy to admit but the results speak for themselves and we must all face up to this fact if Jamaica is to perform the way we all want them to.
Last night our team was beaten before the game started. The only embarrassment I am feeling right now is the fact that 7,800 Colombians showed up to cheer their team on while 200 Jamaicans cared enough to attend the game. This game was played 5 miles away from Lauderhill, the number two area in the US for Jamaicans. The US Census states that there are 150,000 Jamaicans compared to 100,000 Colombians residing in South Florida. What on God's earth causes us to be out numbered by such a margin? This should have been a home away from home game for us. Our players need our support in good and bad times. The same thing happened here recently when we played against Peru and Costa Rica. Our players can play this game at a higher level if we go out and support them. we are the worst fans/supporters on earth. Look what happens when Honduras, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Venezuela and those teams come to town. The place sell off.
We need to get our act together and stop complaining about the team. Stop complaining about the coach and the management. Show up and lift the players to make them play above their level. Believe me it will help their game.
Granted our team is not as good as Colombia, we are not that far apart. In my opinion we are only a player or two away. We need an attacking midfielder and a better holding midfielder. Those are the key positions for us to compete at a world class level. In addition we need to use our Superior asset, SPEED, in the attacking third of the field more.
Maybe you have overlooked one key point that the Hondurans, Colombians, Guatemalans, Costa Ricans and every football country in the world realises...their fans come out to see their 'name' ballas not some likkle nowato 'never hear bout before' footballers wearing their national jerseys.
When these sides come to town in S. Florida from back in the days of Colombia and 'El Pibe' Valderama, dem bring dem best ballas to draw and please their supporters...that si why the matches cork with their supporters.
It is disrespectful to expect Jamaicans to turn up to watch a Jamaica side weh dem know seh don't have any of Jamaica's 'name' ballas pon dem side and can expect to pick up another beating from a betta side...dat is taking Jamaicans fi idiaat !
England has the most players in the world to choose from but if Capello ever disrespected England's fans by picking a side made up of pure Championship players, even for a friendly, Wembley Stadium would be empyty as well and Capello wuuda hafi run lef England fi no get lynched by England's fans simply for disrespecting them.
The JFF is the most tuff-headed, idiaat football federation in the entire world of football, trust mi!
Ric stop tell lies pon wi just to mek your point. Once our flag a fly we come out to support, particularly if it is an event we enjoy. Any man/woman/child weh wear our colors in representation of our country deserve our respect and support. Those CRicans and other Central Americans who enjoy the sport will show up to support their team irrespective of stars or non-stars. There are many name ballas from CRica that I don't want to see on the team. As a matter of fact after the GC there is a call in CRica to get rid of all the 'star' ballas on the team. I probably get more upset about the team when I see 'star' player(s) included who I sense have not been giving their all.
Pelepappa
Let me put my statement another way, since you have tendency to argue and oppose, simply for the sake of it...
I have watched Costa Rica play in S. Florida a number of times, from back in the late 80s when Joe Robbie Stadium was opened specifically to host the'94 WC, which btw, never happened; it was turned into the Florida Marlins MLB stadium before the 94WC...
I've also watched C. Rica at the Orange Bowl, both in exhibitions and the GC...
And I have never watched Costa Rica without their top players... Juan Cayasso(do you remeber him ?), Hernan Medford and all the others...whenever C. Rica has played in S. Florida, they always have had their 'big name' players, at least the games I've watched.
The S. Florida soccer community is very culturally varied and widespread but also very fickle...for 'friendly' matches, if visiting teams do not bring their 'stars', S. Florida sports fans will easily go watch the Heat play basketball, the Marlins play baseball, the Dolphins play football or whatever...
Let C. Rica show up in S. Florida with a team of 'no bodies' and see if the same will not happen to them as happens to Jamaica, on a regular basis; ain't no one gonna turn up to watch them...end of.
You wrong on this Ric. Jamaica is a special case and that is well documented. Don't lose credibility trying to debate that.
Costa Rica hardly play their 'stars' in any friendly, ever. The era you are talking about those players were local players, because all our players were local players. They weren't 'star' players, they were the players on the team. Since the players started going to European leagues they have not been called regularly. Additionally, we don't want to hear bout no 'stars', just put out the effort once you put on the national colors and you good. Players don't get beaten up in CRica for not being good, they get beating up for having the ability and not bringing it for what is perceived selfish reasons. You want to secure your livelihood, we understand and respect that, don't accept a call up and come play the fool.
There was a big push, led by me, a joke, to get Wanchope, our biggest 'star', kicked off the team when he was a 'star' in Europe, not because he was a destructive force attitude wise, which he wasn't to my knowledge, but he was perceived not to be putting out the effort when he played for the national team. Wanchope was a better player than Medford, but no one questioned Medford's effort when playing for the national team.
Wanchope played better for us leading up to the 2006 WC after he got the message, than he did when he was much younger in 2002. Actually I came on this forum bringing a trade offer of Wanchope and cash for Nandi Lowe.
After the GC Ruiz has been put on notice and Saborio was basically off the team prior to the last qualifiers until it appear his father pulled some strings with his friend, Kenton. Saborio seeing the wrting on the wall stepped up his game in the qualifiers, but he seems to have settled back into his lackadaisical ways as of late. I wouldn't mind to see him replaced.
Ric let me also add that CRica has played all of the recent GC, except the 2009, with weakened teams. Before leaving the country for this GC the coach left the country with a message not to expect much because the team is composed of mostly youngsters. When I looked at the team it didn't seem that way to me, furthermore I don't understand why he would come with a team he didn't think could to compete since we weren't in the middle of qualifiers. That's one of the reason the pressure came down on him.
Mi not arguing both yours and Pelepappa's point that C. Rica is usually well supported in S. Florida; my point is that C. Rica have never showed up with a weak side, at least not in my experience.
The difference in standard of football in C. Rica and Jamaica is big so to compare a totally local-picked C. Rican side and a side or squad of predominantly local players, as Jamaica has done in these two matches makes no sense.
Maybe Jamaica will now see the light, as I think that they have done after these two matches, that the average standard of the local DPL players is nowhere what is requred to do well at the international level of football.
Having too many of these players in the squad/team only carries down the performance of the better players in the team and the entire team performance, itself.
This is not a fact that some Jamaican supporters find easy to admit but the results speak for themselves and we must all face up to this fact if Jamaica is to perform the way we all want them to.
But your A team is only as good as the B team. We cannot advance in international tournaments by depending on fielding a wikid A team nearly every game.
Jamaica don’t have a host of ballas in the premier world leagues with multi-$M contracts with clear cut release clauses for their country matches, so the team to carry us to world cup have to be built at home.
I get a lot of laughs, hahhah, when I see threads bout the latest English balla an im pupa a Jamaican, that some man find after Googling for 5 days strait, who even if im have a passport and tek a trial – run back home the first mosquitah bite im, or with a couple international caps and couple goals under his belt, use that to secure a nice contract and tell JFF fi kiss...
Let’s decide if is fantasy team unuh a pick or unuh a build fi deliver a team that can endure beyond WCQ.
Again, you cant build a WCQ team when you are depending on the mercies of the managers who control your better players to release them, when the players themselves, are hot and on a streak or maybe on the bench begging a game, (or faking injury caus dem cant badda wid JFF fool-fool bizniz) or the team is fighting regulation, or making a push for promotion, etc.
Build a solid pro league and the TD can work closely with the local coaches to build a team that can play some football.
Stop pick fantasy team every 4 years/every WCQ and BUILD a football industry by getting a solid Pro league going, no goat pastures, no shared towels, no bun and cheese and box juice after training.
Bakery bizniz and football bizniz a 2 diffrant ting iyah
And what did Jamaica achieve from the massive money transfer to Brazil for those boys scout camps?
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