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#179978 - 06/24/11 07:57 AM Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38
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Jamaica is expected to climb to its highest ranking in since 2000 to 38th in the world.

Although form and results are more important and rankings. Jamaica is on the rise!!!

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#179980 - 06/24/11 08:25 AM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: jamatl]
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I think our form is also encouraging as well J, even in-spite of the DC debacle.
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#180037 - 06/24/11 02:36 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: SamtheMan!!]
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Without a doubt, Jamaica is on the rise...proof of that is how many fans(non-Jamaican) of the Reggaeboyz were disappointed with the USA match but...

In the bigger picture, Jamaica has done no harm and much credit at the GC; had Jamaica played any other side than the USA or Mexico, we probably would have advanced at least to the semis.

Tappa need to take off the blinkers now because top class teams will now be available for the friendlies that he needs to try out the new players in the positions where the team needs strengthening and find the balls to drop some of his favourites who have taken the team as far as they can.

This is what Simoes did back in 97/98 and took a lot of bollocking for it, re Walter Boyd but his plan worked and got Jamaica to the World Cup.

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#180051 - 06/24/11 04:25 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: Ric]
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 Originally Posted By: Ric
Without a doubt, Jamaica is on the rise...proof of that is how many fans(non-Jamaican) of the Reggaeboyz were disappointed with the USA match but...

In the bigger picture, Jamaica has done no harm and much credit at the GC; had Jamaica played any other side than the USA or Mexico, we probably would have advanced at least to the semis.

Tappa need to take off the blinkers now because top class teams will now be available for the friendlies that he needs to try out the new players in the positions where the team needs strengthening and find the balls to drop some of his favourites who have taken the team as far as they can.

This is what Simoes did back in 97/98 and took a lot of bollocking for it, re Walter Boyd but his plan worked and got Jamaica to the World Cup.


RIC, Dropping of players, by any chance does it includes Austin?

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#180055 - 06/24/11 05:02 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: Hamilton Israel]
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 Originally Posted By: Hamilton Israel
 Originally Posted By: Ric
Without a doubt, Jamaica is on the rise...proof of that is how many fans(non-Jamaican) of the Reggaeboyz were disappointed with the USA match but...

In the bigger picture, Jamaica has done no harm and much credit at the GC; had Jamaica played any other side than the USA or Mexico, we probably would have advanced at least to the semis.

Tappa need to take off the blinkers now because top class teams will now be available for the friendlies that he needs to try out the new players in the positions where the team needs strengthening and find the balls to drop some of his favourites who have taken the team as far as they can.

This is what Simoes did back in 97/98 and took a lot of bollocking for it, re Walter Boyd but his plan worked and got Jamaica to the World Cup.


RIC, Dropping of players, by any chance does it includes Austin?


HI

Mi nu mek it nu secret...

Mi a sey clearly now, for Jamaica' side to improve, Rodolph Austin haffi sid down pon di bench and watch better ballas do the business for Jamaica.

Austin is a bully player for the likkle Caribbean sides Jamaica can beat pretty easily but up 'gainst big side and big ballas, not anywhere near good enough.

Jones and the likkle new yute for the USA handled him like a baby in the match against the USA; in technical, tactical and physical terms.

He might not be the only one to be re-evaluated against other players not in the team now but he is the main one.

Playing that same position Lovell Palmer might have done better and he wasn't even called into the squad.

I would love to see how Darren Pratley would fit in, given that he has many of the attributes that Jamaica needs in a midfielder right now and he's completely different class from Austin.

Austin no good, end of.

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#180072 - 06/24/11 06:48 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: Ric]
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Ric,

The two matches I saw Swansea, I liked what Pratley brought to the table and also Swansea style of play. Also, he recently rejected a new contract with Swanseas and is seeking out another club. Right now, he has yet to make public his commitment to Jamaica in the media or any of other visible way(i.e. Jamaican wristband or holding up a Jamaican flag after the promotion title)

In regards to Austin or any player for that matter from the Gold Cup squad, I would not drop or dismiss them. Rather Tappa should request improvement to their play. A few of the players need to get a taste of the English League Championship to see how they adapt and improve. With this FIFA ranking expect to see at least 3-5 ballas make the move to the UK.

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#180102 - 06/25/11 09:34 AM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: jamatl]
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The UK transfer window is already open.

The Norway and Sweden windows open on August 1

The USA/Canada MLS window opens July 15


Opportunity abounds for our footballers.


Ballas,

Go where you fit in not only for the money.

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#180104 - 06/25/11 11:50 AM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: Hamilton Israel]
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 Originally Posted By: Hamilton Israel
 Originally Posted By: Ric
Without a doubt, Jamaica is on the rise...proof of that is how many fans(non-Jamaican) of the Reggaeboyz were disappointed with the USA match but...

In the bigger picture, Jamaica has done no harm and much credit at the GC; had Jamaica played any other side than the USA or Mexico, we probably would have advanced at least to the semis.

Tappa need to take off the blinkers now because top class teams will now be available for the friendlies that he needs to try out the new players in the positions where the team needs strengthening and find the balls to drop some of his favourites who have taken the team as far as they can.

This is what Simoes did back in 97/98 and took a lot of bollocking for it, re Walter Boyd but his plan worked and got Jamaica to the World Cup.


RIC, Dropping of players, by any chance does it includes Austin?



Not only Austin, Shelton also...it is not the first time that he had an open goal to shoot at and he putted it over the crossbar...He did it in the 63rd minute against Guadalupe. Dane Richards gave him the ball right on the 6 yard line and he skied it...

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#180106 - 06/25/11 12:22 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: Javincy]
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 Originally Posted By: Javincy
 Originally Posted By: Hamilton Israel
 Originally Posted By: Ric
Without a doubt, Jamaica is on the rise...proof of that is how many fans(non-Jamaican) of the Reggaeboyz were disappointed with the USA match but...

In the bigger picture, Jamaica has done no harm and much credit at the GC; had Jamaica played any other side than the USA or Mexico, we probably would have advanced at least to the semis.

Tappa need to take off the blinkers now because top class teams will now be available for the friendlies that he needs to try out the new players in the positions where the team needs strengthening and find the balls to drop some of his favourites who have taken the team as far as they can.

This is what Simoes did back in 97/98 and took a lot of bollocking for it, re Walter Boyd but his plan worked and got Jamaica to the World Cup.


RIC, Dropping of players, by any chance does it includes Austin?



Not only Austin, Shelton also...it is not the first time that he had an open goal to shoot at and he putted it over the crossbar...He did it in the 63rd minute against Guadalupe. Dane Richards gave him the ball right on the 6 yard line and he skied it...


I'll name Jamaica's strikers that are far better footballers than Luton Shelton at the top level of the game; these are players who have played for Jamaica and not some untried newbies;

Marlon King
Ricardo Fuller
Omar Cummings

There's a host of up-and-coming wanna-bes playing in England, Vietnam, MLS, Jamaica or whereever else who should be hungry to compete with him and the others to make Jamaica's WC squad.

I expect to see Shelton and Austin in Jamaica's WC squad but not in the starting 11 when the fireworks start for real.


Edited by Ric (06/25/11 12:25 PM)

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#180107 - 06/25/11 01:41 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: Ric]
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With thats said is Ryan Johnson a starter over Shelton...Cause to make room for the bigger guns upfront head afi roll and i can tell u this.It wont be shelton!!...Like the rankings and Phillips should be the 1st to make a move to the UK.
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#180158 - 06/25/11 08:41 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: chito2k10]
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U notice sey mi neva mention Ryan Johnson as being better than Shelton but he does work harder for the team.

Mi neva judge either Shelton or Austin on the strength or weakness of one bad match; any player can have a bad game, mi judge them pon dem technical weaknesses in comparison to the other players available and competing for their positions on the team.

Those weaknesses have been there all along as Ballaprof and Distributor have not been shy to tell us.

These players have peaked out now at their levels of improvement; they will not get any better.

Neither will Jamaica's team improve with them in cemented positions as untouchables; they still have a part to play but Jamaica has to look at the better options available right now.

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#180200 - 06/26/11 07:38 AM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: Ric]
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Wi haffi keep wi england links, cause bruck pocket mls nah pay di bills. Dadda fi guh england.
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#180249 - 06/26/11 02:06 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: Yardman]
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NO one position is locked down at this stage and honestly any UK-based players would need to EARN their right to play because none of them are CURRENTLY automatic selections.
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#180254 - 06/26/11 03:59 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: jamatl]
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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
NO one position is locked down at this stage and honestly any UK-based players would need to EARN their right to play because none of them are CURRENTLY automatic selections.


Every single player who qualifies to play for Jamaica needs to earn their place on the team..

But does the JFF and Tappa have the mentality to see that and put things in place ?

I carefully watched the USA match again today and had Jamaica's right team and strategy been on the field against the USA, the USA would never have gotten to the GC final...

Does anyone else on this forum recognise that the Vietnam league is at least on par with MLS in standard and that the players there are performing at an equal standard to who is already being selected ?

We don't really have much to tweak but what it is that must be tweaked are the most important, very little things...

Those are the things that decide winning or losing at this level.

The USA found that out against Mexico lsst night butI quarantee you, the USA does not have the player pool of professional talent floating around now in world football that Jamaica does.

What you saw from the USA last night is the very best they have to offer but not so for Jamaica; we have better to get and become, the players are there in abundance now.

This GC was a massive platform on which to build for the WC qualifiers and Jamaica has the players out there to be massive...

Trust me on this one.


Edited by Ric (06/26/11 04:02 PM)

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#180387 - 06/29/11 06:04 AM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: Ric]
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http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html

Jamaica is officially number 38 in the FIFA rankings release today.


Edited by jamatl (06/29/11 09:09 AM)

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#180388 - 06/29/11 06:36 AM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: jamatl]
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9 1 Mexico 1007 19 205
24 2 USA 799 -2 -56
38 3 Jamaica 656 17 110
44 4 Honduras 613 -1 10
52 5 Panama 574 15 81
55 6 Costa Rica 561 1 20
72 7 El Salvador 434 15 43
83 8 Canada 387 -7 -52
89 9 Haiti 377 7 29
90 10 Trinidad and Tobago 374 5 21


Now they should be seeded to make it to the HEX. They need a few practice games now so that they can practice how to play under pressure...It would be a good idea to use the team that they will be using for the WCQ during these practice games and not use the games to "showcase" or "view new players" as we tend to do and waste valuable opportunities.
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#180405 - 06/29/11 09:10 AM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: ddread]
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Now, we need to focus on maintaining and improving this ranking!!
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#180407 - 06/29/11 09:12 AM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: ddread]
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 Originally Posted By: ddread
9 1 Mexico 1007 19 205
24 2 USA 799 -2 -56
38 3 Jamaica 656 17 110
44 4 Honduras 613 -1 10
52 5 Panama 574 15 81
55 6 Costa Rica 561 1 20
72 7 El Salvador 434 15 43
83 8 Canada 387 -7 -52
89 9 Haiti 377 7 29
90 10 Trinidad and Tobago 374 5 21


Now they should be seeded to make it to the HEX. They need a few practice games now so that they can practice how to play under pressure...It would be a good idea to use the team that they will be using for the WCQ during these practice games and not use the games to "showcase" or "view new players" as we tend to do and waste valuable opportunities.


Fifa will be using the March Rankings, GC results aren't a factor. We were fourth then behind the US, Mexico and Honduras.

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#180421 - 06/29/11 12:00 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: SamtheMan!!]
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 Originally Posted By: SamtheMan!!
 Originally Posted By: ddread
9 1 Mexico 1007 19 205
24 2 USA 799 -2 -56
38 3 Jamaica 656 17 110
44 4 Honduras 613 -1 10
52 5 Panama 574 15 81
55 6 Costa Rica 561 1 20
72 7 El Salvador 434 15 43
83 8 Canada 387 -7 -52
89 9 Haiti 377 7 29
90 10 Trinidad and Tobago 374 5 21


Now they should be seeded to make it to the HEX. They need a few practice games now so that they can practice how to play under pressure...It would be a good idea to use the team that they will be using for the WCQ during these practice games and not use the games to "showcase" or "view new players" as we tend to do and waste valuable opportunities.


Fifa will be using the March Rankings, GC results aren't a factor. We were fourth then behind the US, Mexico and Honduras.


They used the Gold Cup as part of this, which is why they waited until late in the month to release the rankings. This is from FIFA itself:

The CONCACAF Gold Cup, numerous qualifying matches for confederation championships and the devaluation of the first phase of matches from the 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa™ have led to considerable movement on this month’s FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking.

Mexico have gained 19 places thanks to their victory at the CONCACAF Gold Cup and have rocketed back into the top ten for the first time since July 2007.

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#180448 - 06/29/11 04:47 PM Re: Jamaica's June 2011 FIFA ranking - 38 [Re: distributor1]
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So you're trying to tell me that Panama now 5th is seeded while Cuba @ 11th isn't anymore? The mentioning of the Gold Cup aside, nothing else stated above speaks SPECIFICALLY to Concacaf, nor does it come remotely close to giving a clear understanding of seedings as it relates to July's draw. As long as there is nothing provided in writing telling me otherwise March still stands. Aside from a number of teams ingloriously swapping places in the Global rankings this tells me nothing.

Edited by SamtheMan!! (06/29/11 05:21 PM)

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