As Shavar mentioned, right now OBrian White's chances of making the Canadian squad as a forward is better than trying to break into Jamaica's front line and he knows that quite well but if he is committed and willing to work hard, he could crack the Jamaica front line:
Just compare:
Jamaica
Shelton Addlery Cummings Johnson Fuller
versus
Canada
Friend Hume Jackson Edwin-Bonsu Gerba
Jamatl,25-30yrs ago Obrien White would be a shoo in to make the jamaica Natl side and jff would a send fi him already. Back then if u were playing in any foriegn league u could basically walk in to the team. Now fast forward to 2010 ting change and the player pool is way deeper than back then, so any Player who wants to don the Green Black and Gold will now have to Work his A$$ off to earn a spot. Mr White wake up and smell di coffee... dont listen to Lincoln and JT.. Just keep working boss and your chance will come..
Fast forward to 2010?? Tell me what has changed morefire???
If you were telling me we had Defoe, Rooney, Cole, Zamora and Crouch ahead of the youth I could relax a bit. And even they couldn't score in the World Cup.
Some of us talk like we are world beaters. What the hell are all the boys in front of Obrian doing that he is not doing?? What performance am I missing...
What are we using as a measurement??
At least watching in England I can say the man that scores the most goals and contributes highly in assists has a chance. How are you measuring these cats?? none of them playing for Jamaica makes a significant contribution further than Fuller, King or the adda one who use to guh a Wolmer's.
All of yu need to behave unuh mouth. All you all keep perpetrating is putting a bunch of individuals on the field and talk bout who ready. Jamaica right now need to guh thru everyone possible and locate team players and people who can do a job. He may be a striker but possibly can fulfil other roles.
If Jamaica was in a world cup now who would you pick? I dont even have to guess. We would do the same pick everyones favorites rather than a team.
And this idea that man has to fight for a space is crap. If that Obrian didn't create that article he would have been forgotten. The adda yute Jamatl mentioned would never have been heard of if no one mentioned his name. The other Jamaican who played for Canada was not known by the JFF until someone mentioned it on the forum. JFF doesnt know about anyone unless they are mentioned elsewhere. Another reason for a database. U dont have to play them. Just know about them.
Jesus, unuh make things so difficult. And then accept everything else fariners throw at unuh.
There was a yute on this very forum that came to Jamaica to represent and got ignored. That is the reality of representing Jamaica? What has changed???
No one tracks Obrian, but when he stars the show unuh ah guh want to benefit. Bunch a vampires and hypocrites.. Rubbish that.
if unuh cant accept the man when he is down, then how can u jump on when he's up. Waggonist and Burrelist culture...
For Jamaica to build, everyone has to be a part of the story and feel inclusion.
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Is it not wise to allow the man to solidify his first team spot with his new professional club fully an extensive knee injury rehabilitation BEFORE giving him a call-up, especially with the fixture congestion and extensive travel that Toronto FC has been experiencing recently?
JT, him play in the same league as the most of the other forwards who have been called ahead of him. So it quite easy to observe his performance just as most can for players based in England.
And others who play locally, such as Hodges, have scored goals when given the opportunity to play, but can barely get into the squad themself due to competition from the rest.
All the one JT know how fi do is start controversy . Just the other day Kiri Stephenson step of a di plane right into San jose starting lineup and have one good Game, man start bawl fi him to get a Call up to camp . I watch San jose game against the Redbulls tv and then tune in to the forum. I noticed all the talk on the forum was about Henry or Dane Richards and no mention of Stephenson.
I wathched the replay of the san jose vs red bulls and Stephenson had some good touches but seem just a way to passive for a player his size and was kinda in and out of the Game
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Based on what is may happen with Everton's Mikel Arteta potential switch from Spain to England, OBrian White may only have one choice. (Remember, White did not hold Canadian citizenship when he played for our 2005 U20 squad) ----------------------------------
The little known Article 18.1.a within the FIFA statutes outlines that any player who has represented their country in an official competition, at whatever level, would at that time need to have held a passport for the country they later wish to play for in order to be permitted to make the switch.
In Arteta's case, because he played for Spain in the Under-16 European Championships and then in the FIFA World Championships at Under-17 level, the only way he could satisfy the current criteria is if he held a UK passport at the same time.
It hardly seems likely a 28-year-old from San Sebastian would have gained such a document over a decade ago, which means that even if an application to FIFA was made on the FA's behalf, it would automatically be rejected.
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White keen to repay Toronto's faith Published: Saturday | September 4, 2010 0 Comments and 0 Reactions O'Brian White ... a former Ocho Rios High student. - File O'Brian White celebrates with Toronto FC teammates Dwayne DeRosario (obscured), Chad Barrett (left) and Julian De Guzman, after DeRosario had scored in the second half of Toronto's 2-1 victory over the Philadelphia Union in an MLS soccer game in Toronto on Thursday, April 15, this year. - AP 1 2 >
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TORONTO, Canada:
The handful of boys dressed in Toronto Football Club (TFC) jerseys waited almost two hours in a drizzle for O'Brian White to emerge from the club's locker room after a recent game here.
When he did, they crowded round the Jamaica-born striker as he autographed their shirts and game programmes, leaving each with a satisfied smile.
TFC and its ultra-loyal fans have grown accustomed to being patient when it comes to the 24-year-old St Ann native.
When the club made White the fourth pick in the first round of Major League Soccer's (MLS) draft two years ago, he was still recovering from a serious knee injury - complete with torn ligaments he suffered playing for the University of Connecticut in the United States. But they liked what they had seen in college, where White thumped in nearly 50 goals and was once listed as the best United States collegiate player.
The injury limited the 6' 1", 175-pound White to just nine games (five starts) and a couple goals towards the end of last season, when TFC failed to make the MLS play-off. He has been in and out of the starting line-up since and has only four MLS goals and two assists to show - for TFC's huge investment - in what would amount to nearly a full season. But neither the club nor its followers are ready to press the panic button. For now, it seems the mantra is 'In OB we trust'.
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"Initially, there wasn't a risk drafting him because we all heard he was a good player," explained Vladmir Vukasovic, a TFC fan since the club joined the MLS in 2007.
"When we did find out that he was injured, it was questioned a little bit. But since they've had him on board he has really matured nicely into a great player for us, and he is being more and more, it seems, this year."
"Great" may be stretching it. Despite the fans' belief and White's steady progress, the club added two forwards - Spain international Mista and Brazilian Maicon Santos - to its roster in mid-season. Clearly, TFC's fortunes will not all be pinned to the Jamaican's shoulders. Yet, it seems the club and its fans are more than willing to give White an extended grace period.
"The club knows what O'Brian brings to the table," said TFC midfielder Julian De Guzman, a former La Liga star whose mother is Jamaican. "He's definitely a talent, not just for the team, but also in the league. If you watch carefully, a lot of clubs, he does get a lot of respect from them. But I think the club is very happy to have him at TFC and he definitely has a bright future ahead of him."
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In 2010, White's first full campaign in the MLS, he is anxious to reward TFC's patience.
"I think I owe them, definitely," he said, following a recent 4-1 defeat here to visiting New York Red Bulls, where White missed a couple scoring chances but provided the assist on TFC's only goal.
"That's why, whenever I go out there I just leave everything out there. This club has been good to me and I definitely appreciate it a lot."
No one at the club doubts his effort. White worked hard enough to overcome his physical injury in a shorter time than TFC originally expected. Although he feels occasional tightness in his knee and constantly ices it, it is the mental loosening up on the football field that his teammates, who have stood firmly behind him during his recovery, anxiously await.
"Get that (thought) out of his head that, you know, kinda shelter his knee a little bit," said TFC's star Dwayne De Rosario, who is also no stranger to Jamaica. "You can see (the hesitation) a little bit. But when he gets into his rhythm, once he gets into his game, he's definitely a great talent and still has a great future."
White admits the next big hurdle is in his own mind. He said he is about "95 per cent" of his pre-injury form. Against Red Bulls he was strong on the ball, showing deceptive speed and off-the-ball movement. But his sharpness and goalmouth awareness must improve. White was late arriving for a couple crosses against Red Bulls and hesitated when sent clear on goal in the first half, only to be robbed of the chance.
"The defender was quick," he admitted. "I didn't expect him to get there and block it."
Miscues, White indicated with a shrug, "sometimes happens". He can feel his game coming back each time he takes the field and is eager to press on.
"I'm close," White said.
TFC and its fans are waiting. So far, there is no real pressure on White to start filling up the statistics sheet. The club, he said, has not set goalscoring targets for him, nor has he set any for himself.
"They just want me to continue work hard," explained White, who has two goals and two assists in 16 MLS games this season. "It's not really like a personal thing."
Toronto are still in the hunt for a spot in the 2010 MLS play-off. But they have only scored 22 goals in 21 games while conceding 25. The players want White to establish himself as the key scoring threat. They need him down the stretch.
"I would like to see him really pushing to take over that starting position," De Rosario said. "But that has to come from within him."
"OB", as they call him, knows it too. Yet, he refuses to put his individual progress ahead of the club's.
"My goal is to help the team win," said White, who has lived and attended high school in the Toronto area, which has a large Jamaican population.
Toronto and its fans would like that more than anything else. Their patience, after all, cannot be expected to last forever.
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Just to the clarify this situation....O'Brian White can only play for Jamaica, irregardless if he receives citizenship in another country.
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The Najar decision will be an interesting one to watch. He was born in Honduras and is Honduran to the core, but he’s also appreciative of the opportunities the United States have provided him and his family. Although he has a green card, he is also still a ways away from earning his US citizenship.
The Honduran Under-20 coach says he will call up Najar for CONCACAF qualifying in an attempt to force him into a decision. But the DC academy product knows that playing for the Honduran squad could potentially rule him out from ever playing with the US despite the fact that he is still under the age of 21.
Najar’s case mirrors that of Everton playmaker Mikel Arteta, who was in the news in recent weeks after reports indicated he was leaning toward making a switch to play for Fabio Capello and England.
Arteta, who was born in Spain, represented that country’s youth national teams when he only held a single passport. It was ultimately determined he was not eligible to make a switch to England because he did not hold a British passport at the time he played for Spain’s youth sides. Najar also has just one passport at the current time.
Just to the clarify this situation....O'Brian White can only play for Jamaica, irregardless if he receives citizenship in another country.
one second, why we debate for years if he all along is only eligible to play for jamaica? since when can he only play for jamaica. if he gets citizenship, he can play with canada.
Boys Town forward recalled to national squad Boys Town 17-year-old forward Marvin Morgan is among players recalled to the national squad to prepare for the friendly international against Trinidad and Tobago at the national stadium on October 10 starting at 6:00pm.
Uncapped Morgan was last invited to the squad in April.
Also earning a recall is St. James High midfielder Ricardo Morris, who trained with the senior squad between August 2009 and March 2010 before having to undergo a major surgery.
Goalkeeper Richard McCallum of Waterhouse, Stoke City forward Ricardo Fuller and Khari Stephenson of MLS outfit San Jose earthquakes are also recalled.
Former youth representative--striker Obrian White of Toronto FC and Columbus Crew defender Shawn Francis are invited for the first time.
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Originally Posted By: menamejrgong
care to explain jamatl?
Obrian White did not hold a Canadian passport in 2004/2005 when he represented Jamaica.
See below.
Everton playmaker Mikel Arteta, who was in the news in recent weeks after reports indicated he was leaning toward making a switch to play for Fabio Capello and England.
Arteta, who was born in Spain, represented that country’s youth national teams when he only held a single passport. It was ultimately determined he was not eligible to make a switch to England because he did not hold a British passport at the time he played for Spain’s youth sides.
JFF asked me to do some research on Obrian White and on Shaun Francis so they very well make their Jamaican Debut against Trinidad in OCtober
Do your part big man - this is the time to run the rule over as many players as possible. After the Gold Cup next July, that time is pretty much over because qualifying could be moved up or pushed back depending on the new format. Keep the door open Jamaicanyouth.
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Boys Town 17-year-old forward Marvin Morgan is among players recalled to the national squad to prepare for the friendly international against Trinidad and Tobago at the national stadium on October 10 starting at 6:00pm.
Uncapped Morgan was last invited to the squad in April.
Also earning a recall is St. James High midfielder Ricardo Morris, who trained with the senior squad between August 2009 and March 2010 before having to undergo a major surgery.
Goalkeeper Richard McCallum of Waterhouse, Stoke City forward Ricardo Fuller and Khari Stephenson of MLS outfit San Jose earthquakes are also recalled.
Former youth representative--striker Obrian White of Toronto FC and Columbus Crew defender Shawn Francis are invited for the first time.
For some players you have to force their hands to see where they are leaning..............they are either in or out.
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