On another thread someone had mentioned "form" and I posted a response. Some where in that thread I think I mentioned that players could be confused because there is no set criteria for a call up to the Jamaica National team.
Can some one please tell me what the following players have done to deserve a call up?
Qualifying Factors?
F-O-R-M ? Quality of League? First Team minutes?
1. Omar Daley - I have not seen Ratty, have you? 2. Eric Vernan - Have done nothing all season long. 3. Jason Johnson 4. Nicholi Findlayson 5. Desmond Breakenbridge 6. Demar Stewart 7. Bibi (This season) Etc, Etc, Etc, Etc....
U-N-I-F-O-R-M-I-T-Y........maybe????????
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Does every potential national team player receive a call?
(a) There is no set criteria for a call up.....so that would kill your question because we do not even know what qualifies a person as a "potential" national team player. Seems like a "hit and miss" policy to me.......
(b) Secondly, if we could even answer that with any degree of certainity the answer would be no.
(c) It costs nothing to speak to a player......... All Jamaica national players are on Facebook.....If all fails, get Vonage.
By the way I have seen overseas based players in Jamaica, after MLS/USl season .......flew in on their own........mih dun....:D
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Does INSERT NAME deserve to be in the squad ahead of the any of the other INSERT POSITION(S)? Not really. INSERT MULTIPLE NAMES HERE and others have had to do whole heap to get into the squad. Like the rest, if he starts to play well he will get called.
So maybe Tappa or the JFF should tell him that he will be considered once he plays well. Then again should we tell every baller that?
So, lets see if the formula works? I just plugged a name at random from another post. Disclaimer - No animals or insects were harmed during this experiment.
Originally Posted By: Shavar
Does Marvin Morgan Jr deserve to be in the squad ahead of the any of the other MIDFIELDERS(S)? Not really. Rudolph Austin,Jason Morrisson, Jamal-Campbell Ryce, Lovell Palmer, Jevaughn Watson, Jermain Johnson, Omar Dlaey, Romario Campbell, Dane Richards, Andy Williams and others have had to do whole heap to get into the squad. Like the rest, if he starts to play well he will get called.
So maybe Tappa or the JFF should tell him that he will be considered once he plays well. Then again should we tell every baller that?
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Canadians reluctant to represent country
Canada returns to Toronto's BMO Field for the first time in almost two years when it faces Peru Saturday and then heads to Montreal to play Honduras on Sept. 7. Paul Stalteri will break Randy Samuel's record of 82 caps if he plays in both games for Canada, but much of the attention is on players who won't be there.
Canada's chances of contending for a berth at Brazil 2014 may depend on its ability to convince three youngsters to play for the national team: David Hoilett (Blackburn Rovers), Teal Bunbury (Kansas City Wizards) or Jonathan de Guzman (Real Mallorca).
Hoilett is also eligible to play for Jamaica. Bunbury's father, Alex, played for Canada, but the 2009 College Player of the Year grew up in Minnesota and is eligible to play for the USA. De Guzman committed to play for the Netherlands, where he learned his soccer, but he's never played for the senior national team, making him eligible to join his brother Julian in playing for Canada.
Owen Hargreaves most famously shunned Canada to play for England after leaving Calgary as a youth.
Trying to use Marvin Morgan (a very gifted young talent) being called to a squad and comparing that to Obrien White, a player turning 25 this year, affected by injury and not performing. LOL Is pure joke thing a gwaan today.
Look like every National team around town call a player and tell him why he is not in the squad when he isn't doing much
i guess they all get a tweet, facebook message or e-mail saying we are keeping you in mind for the squad, even though them really nuh think the player have a chance.
Any how. Just make sure you help them out with the database so them nuh crash when we have 100 baller abroad.
another point shavar is that unless someone posts on the forum that a certain individual is eligeable for Jamaican selection not even the JFF would know.
Jamatl just mentioned Hoilett... How many of us knew about Hoilett.
Hamilton Isreal thinks its just a bluff on Obrian's part, but what if it was not a bluff and he became the canadian soldier that burried Jamaica. Wasn't there another Jamaican that played for Canada last WC episode.
Personally, if Obrian was my son I would tell him to take the Canadian offer bcoz overall, Jamaica is a joke.
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The player in reference was (League Championship)Norwich City's Simeon Jackson who was born in Jamaica and received his Canadian citizenship just before the 2007 u20 world cup in canada.
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As Shavar mentioned, right now OBrian White's chances of making the Canadian squad as a forward is better than trying to break into Jamaica's front line and he knows that quite well but if he is committed and willing to work hard, he could crack the Jamaica front line:
If he is looking for the easiest team to make, then you right, why bother.
If he really wants to play for Jamaica, then he can gwaan perform and like all the other ballers, him will get a call-up.
Damani Ralph, Jeff Cunningham, Ryan Johnson, Omar Cummings, Tyrone Marshall, Addlery and others got onto the National team by being dominant in America and then playing well for the National team (exception being Cunningham) after that. If White does the same then the pressure will be on the JFF to call him.
Rule of thumb: Jamaica will need about 50 players just to make it to the Hexagon.
This is not about establishing a starting XI or even establishing the first 18 players of a squad........ Not every player will be a starter, some players will be role players.
What Jamaica want to establish at this point is depth so that in the case of injuries, card suspensions or loss of form of players in the first 18 - then the fall off with the replacements are not that great.......
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I truly like White as a player and person but just because he has or may get a Canadian passport is entitled to an automatic call-up.
The fact is over the past 12 months, he has been out played by at least five other forwards in the national team pool.
Work hard and wheel up and come again.
LINCOLN,
When comparing players measure them against players at the same position or role. It is much more difficult to make the Jamaican starting XI as a forward than as a right-back for example because we are not that deep at that position, right now.
I truly like White as a player and person but just because he has or may get a Canadian passport is entitled to an automatic call-up.
The fact is over the past 12 months, he has been out played by at least five other forwards in the national team pool.
Work hard and wheel up and come again.
LINCOLN,
When comparing players measure them against players at the same position or role. It is much more difficult to make the Jamaican starting XI as a forward than as a right-back for example because we are not that deep at that position, right now.
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Pool of 50 players for 11 on the field positions. So how many players in that pool are forwards? Maybe 8? Cummings, R. Johnson, Fuller, Hodges, Addlery, Shelton, Richards, Bryan, K. Daley. Sound like we already have an adequate supply for that portion of the pool. So him going to have to force him way into it with some goal and force somebody else out.
The point most people are missing......This is not about any individual player........
The Boyz should be aiming for a point where each position is about six 6 players deep...................This is not about the first XI or the three subs......
Example World Cup 1998, everyone knows that Dean Sewell was not a bonafide starter but he had a role to play in qualifying......
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Rule of thumb: Jamaica will need about 50 players just to make it to the Hexagon.
This is not about establishing a starting XI or even establishing the first 18 players of a squad........ Not every player will be a starter, some players will be role players.
What Jamaica want to establish at this point is depth so that in the case of injuries, card suspensions or loss of form of players in the first 18 - then the fall off with the replacements are not that great.......
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Originally Posted By: LINCOLN
Originally Posted By: jamatl
I truly like White as a player and person but just because he has or may get a Canadian passport is entitled to an automatic call-up.
The fact is over the past 12 months, he has been out played by at least five other forwards in the national team pool.
Work hard and wheel up and come again.
LINCOLN,
When comparing players measure them against players at the same position or role. It is much more difficult to make the Jamaican starting XI as a forward than as a right-back for example because we are not that deep at that position, right now.
