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interest. Appears that the national body continues to do a poor job tracking and communicating with fringe players.
White weighs his options GORDON WILLIAMS, Star Writer
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TORONTO, Canada:
Former youth Jamaica international O'Brian White, a striker with Toronto FC (TEC) of Major League Soccer in North America, said he will make a decision whether to try and play for the land of his birth or Canada, where he has lived since he was a teenager, by the end of this MLS season.
"Definitely by the time the season is finished I will definitely make that decision (on which country to represent)," said White, following an MLS game against New York Red Bulls last Saturday, where he assisted in TFC's only goal in a losing 4-1 effort.
"By the end of the season I will make my decision and stick with it."
The 24-year-old, who has represented Jamaica at several age-group levels, Under-15, Under-17 and Under-20, has been wooed for a while by Canada's senior national team. Prior to that country's friendly international against Jamaica in early February, head coach Stephen Hart admitted he had spoken to White several times, trying to convince the St Ann native to wear the red and white jersey of Canada.
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"I wouldn't say I've pressured him," Hart said then. "I've let him know of my interest."
The 6' 1", 175-pound White said he loves Jamaica. However, he said Jamaica has not shown much interest in his services, even as Canada has stepped up its effort to recruit him. He still has not publicly committed to playing for either country.
"I haven't made up my mind," he said. "It's just that Canada is showing a lot more interest than Jamaica. I have heard nothing from Jamaica at all. Not even a call.
"So, sometimes they say you do what's best for you, and if somebody is really interested in getting you to play for them, sometimes that's what you have to do." For now, White, who attended high school in both Jamaica (Ocho Rios High) and Canada, said he is focusing on getting TFC into the 2010 MLS playoff. He has battled back from a serious knee injury, suffered two years ago, which limited him to only nine MLS games last season.
This year he has started seven of 20 MLS games for TFC, scored twice and notched two assists. His club believes he is on the road back to the form that earned him 46 goals at the University of Connecticut and, in 2007, recognition as the Most Valuable Collegiate Player in the United States.
Last Saturday he showed good strength on the ball and deceptive speed against the Red Bulls. TFC believes he has a promising professional future.
"(White's) deceivingly fast," said Canada international Dwayne De Rosario, a TFC teammate. "Once he gets going he's quick and he's good at finishing. Anything in front of the net he usually hits the target."
White is hoping to hit the right mark with his decision, especially with World Cup 2014 qualifications not far away. Asked where his end-of-season decision may be leaning, White said: "I just can't just get up myself and go play for Jamaica. So, obviously, that kind of answers itself in some way."
I have heard nothing from Jamaica at all. Not even a call.
It is called communication........
It must be very frustrating for a player to see squad, after squad of players being selected, including players who you grew up with........ played with in your junior years.....players who are not even on your level being called to the squad....................and not even a phone call to say, "How yuh duh massah, yuh alright?"
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Hopefully Tappa read the star and see one of our home grown players still want to represent Jamaica. I have said it all the time how JA do a poor job in recruiting, player development and tracking our international prospects. The players who goes to College in the US seems to get ignored and even when they make the MLS it takes a while before thay are called up. It is only common sense that you recruit players who are competing at a high level to build your team. It would be dissapointing if White plays for Canada and score on us. I have no doubt White can help us because he is a good finisher.
White is not ready. He is only getting sporadic playing time for TFC because of injuries to others, and while he has shown small flashes, he is nowhere near our better strikers. Yes, chat to him and give him a look in a friendly so that he feels wanted, but don't expect much from him yet. Besides, he is not yet ready for the Canadian team, and Hart will not call him at this point. DeRo is bigging him up as a teammate, but look at White's goal tallies this season so far.
he has consistency Issues. There have been times when i thougth he was a quality striker and times when i thought he needs more time . He's had some injury set backs which contributed to his inconsistency , but right now he's down the Peck Order by quite a bit Cummings,Shelton,Richards,Fuller, and possibly others are head of him in the forward position currently .
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The best thing to do is to call him up and cap him in a couple of friendlies so we don't loose him to the Canadians.It can come back to bite us in the rear if he scores the desiding goal in a 0-1 lost to canada IN A WORLD CUP QUALIFIER. At age 24 he can only get better if stays healthy.
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I have watched quite a few of White's games this season and he has not been playing at National team level. Shelton, Addlery, Cummings, Hodges, the much criticized Dane Richards, the infrequently playing Ryan Johnson all look much better than him. He seems to be a bit tentative, could be that the injury still lingers in his mind.
Add to that Fuller, Shelton and more creative players like Kemmar Daley, he is going to have a hard time getting into the squad.
No need to cap a man, to not call him again. make the man have him options for him career.
While Chris Young of the Toronto Star is not the most astute of football watchers or writers, his words from today's paper following TFC's 0-0 draw with Real Salt Lake are accurate:
We have to find a way to make plays,” said Preki afterward.
That load usually lands on the broad shoulders of Dwayne De Rosario when he slides back behind the strikers and at the top of the midfield. That was the plan Saturday after halftime, Preki inserting O’Brian White up front alongside the Spaniard designated-player pickup Mista. But White has looked less and less more and more of the time, and Mista only intermittently pulsed.
White needs time to develop, and we should not be rushing him, just as we should not be writing him off.
I have always been interested at what is meant by a player being at national level??
Has Jamaica got any levels, in fact do they assess players anyway? Isn't our system more like just picking players to do a job and most of the time players who are capable in the opinion of the man in charge at the time.
Instead of discarding or putting to one side players as distributor is insinuating shouldn't we be encouraging and including into a system..
Surely if Obrian felt inclusion he would up his game understanding himself others were infront of him in the pecking order.
Isn't that the point of the article and who ready fi dis and who nuh ready argument????
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Does Obrien White deserve to be in the squad ahead of the any of the other forwards? Not really. Ryan Johnson, Omar Cummings, Nicholas Addlery, Devon Hodges, Kavin Bryan and others have had to do whole heap to get into the squad. Like the rest, if he starts to play well he will get called.
So maybe Tappa or the JFF should tell him that he will be considered once he plays well. Then again should we tell every baller that?
I have watched quite a few of White's games this season and he has not been playing at National team level. Shelton, Addlery, Cummings, Hodges, the much criticized Dane Richards, the infrequently playing Ryan Johnson all look much better than him. He seems to be a bit tentative, could be that the injury still lingers in his mind.
Add to that Fuller, Shelton and more creative players like Kemmar Daley, he is going to have a hard time getting into the squad. No need to cap a man, to not call him again. make the man have him options for him career.
Haven't had a chance to see any TFC Games this yr. glad Shavar and Distributor clear this whole O. White fiasco up. I was getting the impression that he was performing well but was getting a fight..
Haven't had a chance to see any TFC Games this yr. glad Shavar and Distributor clear this whole O. White fiasco up. I was getting the impression that he was performing well but was getting a fight..
Boss, follow the players for yourself and not base something off someone else's opinion..........
Did you see Dane Richards before Henry arrived?
Have you seen any of the local players that are being selected?
Before MLS, everyone wanted to throw Donavon Rickets under the bus based on Bradford.........
Omar Cummings was the president of the Rucks Republic......
Before Argentina Ryan Johnson was "overhyped"......
The point that MOST people are missing is the poor way in which the JFF treats players who are not based in Jamaica. The art of "Communication" is foreign to the JFF ..............
OBJECTIVE - We are supposed to be building a squad with depth. We are supposed to be evaluating players - not writing people off.
There is one standard for players being called to the national team if they live in Jamaica (playing in a VERY SUB-STANDARD LEAGUE) and one if you player outside the country......
In Jamaica you can score 10 goals in the D-Cup or Manning Cup, salad a few players and you are entitled to a call-up........Score 10 goals and salad a few people in the Digicel Premier League and you are a demi-god. A league that is below the United States Soccer League (USL)....... ..
Bottom line, follow the players through-out their season and not write players off based on one game.........because we would have no national team.
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Haven't had a chance to see any TFC Games this yr. glad Shavar and Distributor clear this whole O. White fiasco up. I was getting the impression that he was performing well but was getting a fight..
Boss, follow the players for yourself and not base something off someone else's opinion..........
Did you see Dane Richards before Henry arrived?
Have you seen any of the local players that are being selected?
Before MLS, everyone wanted to throw Donavon Rickets under the bus based on Bradford.........
Omar Cummings was the president of the Rucks Republic......
Before Argentina Ryan Johnson was "overhyped"......
The point that MOST people are missing is the poor way in which the JFF treats players who are not based in Jamaica. The art of "Communication" is foreign to the JFF ..............
OBJECTIVE - We are supposed to be building a squad with depth. We are supposed to be evaluating players - not writing people off.
There is one standard for players being called to the national team if they live in Jamaica (playing in a VERY SUB-STANDARD LEAGUE) and one if you player outside the country......
In Jamaica you can score 10 goals in the D-Cup or Manning Cup, salad a few players and you are entitled to a call-up........Score 10 goals and salad a few people in the Digicel Premier League and you are a demi-god. A league that is below the United States Soccer League (USL)....... ..
Bottom line, follow the players through-out their season and not write players off based on one game.........because we would have no national team.
I have seen just all the above mentioned in action this yr most on TV (Direct TV) and one Player Shaun Francis I've seen in Person played Pick up Ball with and against him here in NY before he was Drafted by MLS.
So which Player has been written off after one Game? Seems to me every player u see that have one or two good games should be called to Natl team pronto and if them dem dont get Called u say that player has been written off or dem a get a fight.
Communication is poor with all players, not just players overseas. Maybe somebody here should volunteer to send a note on the JFFs behalf to every player, including locals, once a week saying they are still being considered.
Johnson play and score goals and was eventually rewarded for his efforts. Cummings played and improved each season and was rewarded for his efforts. Hodges been scoring and scoring for years in the local league and scored when he got into the National team. Addlery a score pon everything him face and him can barely get into the squad.
What does White deserve a call based on? he hasn't looked good this season. There is no distinguishing attribute that he has, such as pace (Richards, Cummings), stregnth to hold off defenders with back to goal(Johnson, Addlery, White was good at this prior to injury), dribbling/passing (K. Daley).
Hopefully the youth will improve and eventually start to take the place by storm and then Tappa will be forced to have to call him just like Cummings, Johnson and Addlery.
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White has only been a fully professional football for 12 months. But Shavar's assessment is spot-on, and White brings the same skills as Ryan Johnson. If O'Brian White is truly committed to playing for Jamaica, he should let his play do the talking and not his passports, residency cards or potential citizenship.
Obrian keep working hard and your chance will come once the commitment is there.
no one was suggesting to pet and powder the boyz. just simple communication. The sense of inclusion can change a persons attitude big time. Even the inclusion onto a register can give the sense of achievement and accomplishment. It could set a bench mark so no one will have to be told yu nuh mek the cut...
There's so much that could be done with a little communication.
Wouldn't it benefit the JFF more having 10 men vying for the same position rather than leave yourself short and open for mishaps and injuries.
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Yes communication should be improved, but shouldn't every baller be communicated to? How should the JFF, coach Tappa or whoever else go about doing that for both local and overseas players? At what point do we stop in terms of the number of people being notified.
Is that registry process something this site can help with cause we know JFF busy enough trying to run from bailiff? That way when Tappa seh him nuh have nuh player fi play ___, Lincoln or whoever else the database administrator is just shoot out the e-mail to media,JFF and everybody else making them know which players are currently available and in the U.S. system or elsewhere.
no one was suggesting to pet and powder the boyz. just simple communication. The sense of inclusion can change a persons attitude big time. Even the inclusion onto a register can give the sense of achievement and accomplishment. It could set a bench mark so no one will have to be told yu nuh mek the cut...
There's so much that could be done with a little communication.
Wouldn't it benefit the JFF more having 10 men vying for the same position rather than leave yourself short and open for mishaps and injuries.
Thank you JT.
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Communication is poor with all players, not just players overseas..............
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I have seen just all the above mentioned in action this yr most on TV (Direct TV) and one Player Shaun Francis I've seen in Person played Pick up Ball with and against him here in NY before he was Drafted by MLS.................
Quick response because this is getting boring......
Indentifying players and expanding your squad The USA has more goal keepers than you can shake a stick at and I have never seen an American coach say, " We have Howard (Everton), Guzan (Aston Villa), Hanneman (Wolverhampton), Keller (Seattle), Freidel , (MLS keepers galore)......why in the world do we need to see Troy Perkins ?"
Depth Depth does not mean Bibi Gardner and Demar Phillips at left back...............OR.....Fuller and Shelton upfront......
Wasted Time Each month that goes by is a month closer to qualifying.....there are no extensions. Use the time wisely, just like every other team in CONCACAF. Gio? Hernadez? Vela? etc.....Have you ever seen Mexico rest on their laurels?
DATA BASE? We have problems keeping up with 20 players overseas?.....Wow......I hope we don't get to the point where we have 50 players overseas, we would commit suicide.......
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