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#159064 - 07/29/10 04:15 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: pelepapa]
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Mi surely touch ur corn now, Pelepappa.

U a di expert analyst pon dis forum wen it come to polit-trickal(how u like like mi owwnna creative use of the English language \:D ?) and administrative, including financial, issues that Jamaican football has to deal with successfully to come good again.

Mi a deal wid the football resources and potential that Jamaica has at its disposal, if and when those issues are sorted out.

Your last statement says it all; you are hoping and depending on the event that Jamaica's football leaders will never sort those issues out because you know if they do, both Costa Rica and Honduras will have to be looking at the same Reggaeboyz that put you both away for France '98 and can put you away again, when things are right in Jamaica's camp.

Any true Reggaeboyz suppoerter will be hoping that our problems can and will be resolved off the field; we will meet on the field again my friend and both Costa Rica and Honduras will feel Jamaica again, in contention for that 3rd spot in CONCACAF.

We have a match coming up so lets low this issue until then.

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#159069 - 07/29/10 08:20 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: Ric]
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Mi surely touch ur corn now, Pelepappa.

U a di expert analyst pon dis forum wen it come to polit-trickal(how u like like mi owwnna creative use of the English language \:D ?) and administrative, including financial, issues that Jamaican football has to deal with successfully to come good again.

Mi a deal wid the football resources and potential that Jamaica has at its disposal, if and when those issues are sorted out.

Your last statement says it all; you are hoping and depending on the event that Jamaica's football leaders will never sort those issues out because you know if they do, both Costa Rica and Honduras will have to be looking at the same Reggaeboyz that put you both away for France '98 and can put you away again, when things are right in Jamaica's camp.

Any true Reggaeboyz suppoerter will be hoping that our problems can and will be resolved off the field; we will meet on the field again my friend and both Costa Rica and Honduras will feel Jamaica again, in contention for that 3rd spot in CONCACAF.

We have a match coming up so lets low this issue until then.


No worry 'bout mi corn Ric.

I am not hoping and depending on anything, I am just pointing out a recurring theme that continue to handicap JA football and it is already set in motion to repeat itself this cycle. Why you a cast all the blame pon the leaders when blame could and should be shared equally among all the stakeholders of JA football?

Since you keep mentioning CRica let mi inform you that we are sitting on cash reserve and a boatload of quality players. Unlike the miracles you, not me, think it will take for JA to be successful, I don't think CRica need miracles. I think we are perfectly positon to knock off both Mexico and USA for top spot in CONCACAF this cycle.

My only concern is that for the first time most of the players are going to be drawn from outside CRica and I am not too comfortable with that. You never know what kind of attitudes they will be coming back with. I would feel better if the captain or a few influential players were from the CRican league, but those days are over. We just affi monitor certain attitudes very carefully and don't allow anything to fester.

Honduras is done for this cycle. They have to go through a rebuilding process. Lucky thing they made it to the WC. The money they received should come in handy during this process. Without the glory, inspiration and money from making the WC Honduras football society would be going through a very dark period right now.

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#159078 - 07/30/10 02:41 AM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: LINCOLN]
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Well he's playing at the same level as Davis and Stewart, unfotunately they're all center halfs. Definitely worth a look.
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#159118 - 07/31/10 09:03 AM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: chenchen21621]
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When you check this thing out, with every passing day and career move by Jamaica's professional pool of players, Jamaica's selection options increase or problems increase, depending on which way you choose to look at it.

With Marlon King coming back into the picture when he's playing again and all the career moves by the established players, Jamaica has a pool of players to choose from as large as any other CONCACAF country right now.

Can the JFF really bring this all together to get the best squad to represent Jamaica ?

I surely hope so because a lack of quantity and quality of professional players will certainly be no excuse if they can't.

Watch this space in the next few months; its going to be one hell of a 'ride' \:D

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#159133 - 07/31/10 07:57 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: Ric]
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 Originally Posted By: Ric
When you check this thing out, with every passing day and career move by Jamaica's professional pool of players, Jamaica's selection options increase or problems increase, depending on which way you choose to look at it.

With Marlon King coming back into the picture when he's playing again and all the career moves by the established players, Jamaica has a pool of players to choose from as large as any other CONCACAF country right now.

Can the JFF really bring this all together to get the best squad to represent Jamaica ?

I surely hope so because a lack of quantity and quality of professional players will certainly be no excuse if they can't.

Watch this space in the next few months; its going to be one hell of a 'ride' \:D


I think you are a WC cycle or 2 too late. Your golden age players have aged. Too much turn over coming down the pike and no young player has step forward to assume the leadership gap that is imminent. I don't have to tell you that JA has had a hard time bringing 'this' together in the best of time, therefore the challenge will be even greater with all the expected changes.

Tappa has his work cut out for him. While he does have a lot of players, the problem he faces is that he has to groom a new player at just about every position. That's what we usually call rebuilding. It is not easy to win or coach while shuffling players in and out of your lineup. The players you have confidence in better not have a bad game otherwise you will be pressured to look at other players who you as the coach might know deep down are not worthy or replacing 'your' guy.

It is not fair to Tappa to put out the notion that he has all these great players at his disposal, when in reality his job is going to be very difficult. What could play in JA's favor is that most of the teams they are looking up at are in similar situations. Mexico, USA and Honduras will be going through their own rebuilding process. This WC cycle is going to be a race about who manage their rebuilding process best. Mexico & the USA are expected to be least affected because of their vast resources, but you never know.

JA could elect not to jump in the rebuilding race this cycle. Not having the resources of a Mexico or USA it makes no sense racing with them to see who could rebuild better. JA is better off forcing another round out of the old foot them and try to take advantage of these teams while they are rebuilding.


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#159200 - 08/02/10 07:56 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: brush]
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is it a case that he cant break into the England set up nuh more so we are interested in Jamaica again. Anyway he cant be worst than what we have.


Yep, that's exactly what it is. If its up to me, the only way he'd wear the national colors is if he bought it in a store and base on the JFF's marketing, I wish him the best of luck with that.

if it were up to me, the only way he'd wear the national colours is if he is good enough to make the team.
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#159201 - 08/02/10 09:14 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: ddread]
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 Originally Posted By: brush
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is it a case that he cant break into the England set up nuh more so we are interested in Jamaica again. Anyway he cant be worst than what we have.


Yep, that's exactly what it is. If its up to me, the only way he'd wear the national colors is if he bought it in a store and base on the JFF's marketing, I wish him the best of luck with that.

if it were up to me, the only way he'd wear the national colours is if he is good enough to make the team.


Dat is the only way a man fi wear our colours! But him hafi waan play fi we as well....

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#188206 - 11/30/11 09:24 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: TheDread]
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Currently on loan to Watford FC since October. He went 90 minutes versus Marvin Elliott(Bristol City)





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Watford have signed Sunderland defender Nyron Nosworthy on loan until January.

Hornets boss Sean Dyche was keen to find cover for the injured Martin Taylor, who underwent collarbone surgery on Monday.

And Nosworthy, who spent most of last season on loan at Sheffield United, appears to fit the bill.

Nosworthy has found himself out of favour at Sunderland with his last appearance for the Black Cats coming in January 2010.

The 31-year-old is set to go straight into the squad for Saturday's clash with Peterborough


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#188220 - 12/01/11 06:54 AM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: jamatl]
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He far must much better than jermaine taylor and adrian Reid!!! We need all the best for the qualifiers English based me say!!!!
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#188222 - 12/01/11 07:49 AM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: Ballaprof]
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JFF is satisified at being inept and have their head not in the sand but in their "ASS".
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#188416 - 12/07/11 03:44 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: Marklon]
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Jamaica best defenders right now based on current form. Our best defender worldwide right now and should not be overlooked. He is having a renaissance at Watford FC.
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#188417 - 12/07/11 03:45 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: jamatl]
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PREVIEW: "THE BEST IS YET TO COME" - NOSWORTHY
Posted on: Fri 02 Dec 2011



HAVING won the Championship with parent club Sunderland back in 2007, defender Nyron Nosworthy knows what is needed to succeed at this level.

The loanee revealed the winning formula that year was good work ethic and belief - two attributes he feels his team mates at Watford already possess - leading him to predict the Golden Boys turning some heads soon.

"We've been in good form leading up to the Christmas period, and that's what you need," said the powerful centre back.

"Three wins on the trot for any team and they are in the play-offs. That is the situation and one I think can be achieved.

"The main thing in this league is consistency and if you get that right, it starts to become easy. That's exactly what we had at Sunderland.

"We had a great work ethic and I feel we have the same here. Everything is starting to click all of a sudden, things are becoming natural around the training ground and you can really feel the optimism here."




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Nosworthy: "We'll take the belief and the vibe we have in training and implement it on Saturday"

With the Hornets preparing for the Ipswich encounter, the former Sheffield United loanee believes avoiding defeat should be the priority.

"My job is to make sure we don't concede," said the 31-year-old. "If we do that then we don't lose the game.

"For me it's about keeping it simple. If I do my job properly and make sure we are strong at the back then the team has a chance of coming away with something - whether it's a win a draw.

"That's why the aim for the team and myself in particular is not losing. It's hard on the road but if we remain solid we have a great chance of winning."

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Nosworthy with fellow Premier League loanee Michael Kightly

The 'Orns travel to Portman Road on Saturday with the advantage in terms of the head to head battle, as they are unbeaten in 13 against their counterparts. The hosts also haven't managed to clock up a win in six straight games.

Despite these statistics however, Nosworthy isn't getting carried away.

He said: "Make no mistake, they may be in bad form and we might have a good record against them previously, but that counts for nothing.

"They are still a good footballing team with some good players and if they turn it on it will be a great game.

"We need to make sure we don't concede, take the belief and the vibe we have in training and implement it on Saturday - if we do that I think we will come away with a win."

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#188451 - 12/08/11 07:50 AM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: jamatl]
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Ric give di massive di full 100 on the form of Nosworthy right now, bredrin.
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#188455 - 12/08/11 10:33 AM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: jamatl]
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Ric give di massive di full 100 on the form of Nosworthy right now, bredrin.


Nosworthy playing out of his skin right now mi bredren...

Remember, he is still a Premiereship player on loan from Sunderland.

If Sunderland did not value him, they would have sold him outright but they didn't.

Sometimes a loan down a division can get a player more playing time and help rebuild his confidence...ir seems to have worked dreams for Nosworthy.

He can easily play his way back to Sunderland and help them in the Prem..that is if they avoid relegation this season.

Martin O'Neill is the best manager Sunderland could possibly have hired and he'll keep them in the Prem.

I've always known the Nyron was the defender Jamaica needs but does the JFF and Tappa know it ?

He's declared his allegiance and desire and he's the only Jamaica-qualified Premiereship defender that's available right now...I wouldn't start qualifiers without him on board if I were the JFF.

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#188456 - 12/08/11 10:40 AM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: Ric]
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Nosworthy should be in the squad. But we will still be in problems with him against the top CONCACAF attackers from Costa Rica, Mexico, Honduras, U.S., Panama. He plays well against the traditional English style game, but when he is facing quick dribblers, it is worries.

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#188457 - 12/08/11 12:37 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: Shavar]
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Isn't Leon Barnett, Norwich(EPL), a diasporian Jamaican. I think he is better than Nosworthy.Nosworthy is sort of on the slow side.Barnett is our best central defende at this point, and should be vigorously persued by incompetent JFF.
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#188459 - 12/08/11 01:16 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: graham]
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Nyron Nosworthy has been firmly committed to Jamaica and the Reggaeboyz, he has not wavered publicly to the English or Jamaican press. He has been consistent in his choice.
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#188463 - 12/08/11 03:00 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: jamatl]
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Did not say Nosworthy was not committed , just that IMHO, Barnett is a better player.A backline with Nosworthy, and Barnett as central defenders, Nathan Smith, based on Honduras game over Jermaine Taylor based on his being repeatedly befuddled by Donovan in MLS cup, on the L side, and Austin or possibly Mark Little of Peteborough (Championship) on the R back position is probably our best back 4.
Ric, your take on this.

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#188464 - 12/08/11 03:16 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: graham]
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I've watched Mark Little with Peterborough at Birmingham City recently...decent player.

Being weak at the back, in the middle, both these players, Nosworthy and Barnett should be considered by the JFF.

Nathan Smith, as a natural left-back over Jermaine Taylor as a stand-in is a no-brainer.

Austin was used at right-back in the last Homduras match and was a total fish-out-of-water...the less said the better, on that performance.

These English-based defenders need to be seriously considered as this is where the side is weak and shallow right now.


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#188465 - 12/08/11 03:35 PM Re: Nyron Nosworthy - I am still Available (to Boyz). [Re: Ric]
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On Austin at right back...peeps might think that I am so anti-Austin that I see no value in his game at all.

That is not true...I can only assess him on the games I've watched him play.

When he's played as a defensive midfielder, with proper support from his right wing-back, he looks Jamaica's best player as a purely defensive ball winner in front of Jamaica's defense, no doubt.

It is this mistaken belief that he is such a good player that he can be versatile enough to be played out of position and still be effective in Jamaica's side...sorry, but the facts do not bear out that judgement and Austin is the one to suffer.

I watched Austin at the GC, attempt more passes, take more shots and free kicks at goal than any other player on Jamaica's side, with a completion rate of something like less than 20%.

He hogged the ball on almost every free kick and hasn't got even one on target yet, that I can remember !

That is way too low a ratio for attacking play for a player who obviously thinks he has more attacking skills on a football pitch than he actually does...I challenge any of his supporters to go back and watch every Gold Cup game that he played in and bring back better statistics...he stood out because of his completion-failure rate of attempted plays...not for what he does really well.

His best game was against Grenada, the weakest team in the group and even there, he was not totally convincing.

When Rudi Austin learns to keep it simple and play within his limitations he will become so much a better player at the higher level and for Jamaica.


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