This was taking from the JFF website after the first 2 qualifying games against the Bahamas. 2 games in and the qualifiers budget was shot. 4 years from now we are going to be standing in the same place. Figures Regarding International Games
Jujy 5, 2008 Preliminary figures for the three international matches staged by the Jamaica Football Federation in the month of June including the two World Cup Qualifiers against the Bahamas showed a combined deficit of Three Hundred and Four Thousand, Eight Hundred and Sixty-Four Dollars (J$304,864.00)
Jamaica vs St. Vincent & The Grenadines at the National Stadium 2nd Leg between Jamaica and Bahamas at the Trelawny Multi-purpose Complex
The main expenditure items for the three matches that helped to lead to this loss position were:
(Combined Expenditure Items over three games)
Rental of National Stadium and Trelawny Complex Facility $3,355,750.00
Airfare $2,735,001.00
Hotel Accommodation $2,500,991.00
Match Fees $14,035,950.00
Other Operational (security, ticket coordination/printing, ushers, $7,068,268.00
public address, match day workers/meals)
The Board of Directors at an Emergency meeting held on June 25, 2008 noted that this loss position would force the Federation to take some harsh but necessary decisions for the upcoming qualifiers. The Board was advised by the Treasurer that the figures would have shown a more significant loss if most of the overseas players had not traveled on their own ticket for the holidays. Hence it can be expected that this line item could be tripled for the upcoming matches.
The Board was further reminded that for upcoming away qualifiers the Federation would be responsible for operational costs, the main items estimated as follows per match:
Airfares $10,780,000.00
Hotel accommodation and meals $4,500,000.00
Match Incentives $9,100,000.00
The Board discussed the need for home played qualifiers to be so profitable to help cover the costs of the away games.
The Board examined the figures against the background of five other national teams being in training and soon to enter international competition. These teams are the National Under 15;17 & 20 Men and the National Under 15 &17 Women. The Federation will have to fund airfare costs for these teams who have been in training over the past three months.
Against this background the Board discussed what it saw as inescapable options including amongst others:
Increasing ticket prices
Recommending the reduction of overseas based professionals in the squad
The need to have capacity attendance at all local games
Well we never actually lose money when we play abroad, so why can't they stop being stupid and just keep playing abroad till we can afford to play a yard.
Eventually local facilities will have to charge less in order to get business from the jff, then we can start playing at home again.
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Originally Posted By: ballhead21
Well we never actually lose money when we play abroad, so why can't they stop being stupid and just keep playing abroad till we can afford to play a yard.
Eventually local facilities will have to charge less in order to get business from the jff, then we can start playing at home again.
u cannot xpect to do well in world cup qualifying and only play overseas we have to play at home (National stadium/Independence park) also .
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NO one is suggesting neglecting playing at home but currently it is not feasible to play at home and we are 4 years away from the next world cup.
Also time and time again we have proven that we are a grea team at home but usually play poor away from home so we need to brush up on that aspect of our games as well.
"u cannot xpect to do well in **or even make it to" the world cup qualifying and only play * at home* we have to play *away* also .
All I am saying is that money wise it is wise to play some overseas ball and make some money on the side than play at home and lose money we dont have.
We are a good home team we need to replicate that abroad also
All I am saying is that money wise it is wise to play some overseas ball and make some money on the side than play at home and lose money we dont have.
We are a good home team we need to replicate that abroad also
The article said the JFF is dependent on profits made on home games to finance away games, therefore I don't know how you can say you make money playing overseas. In essence, if you ah lose money at home you ah lose more abroad.
My purpose for posting this article is to hopefully blow the myth once and for all that it was Simoes choice to select the players why JA did not make the hex. It was clearly a directive from the JFF committee that they would have to limit the number of players from abroad because of cost. That was after the 2nd game. How was Jamaica going to survive the entire qualifiers if after the 2nd game they had blown their budget? How long mi a try direct unnu to the money issue yet still everybody ah demand more wasteful friendlies...Ah so unnu budget unnu home finances? Even when JA can mek some money during this WC season people still a call fi the team go waste money playing non-WC bound teams. Straight up! if unnu naw play WC-bound teams and collect some match fee unnu might as well shut down the programme til after WC.
Captain is doing a good Job , better than Boxhill who could'nt find us games .
Metro,
Games is what most likely cost the Boyz from going to SA. Are you still going to insist on calling for games for games sake?
Lets look at it. Burrell came into the job making big declarations about playing games and playing the best players at all times. He played 3 friendlies in early 2008 and played the best players, because he promised. He started the qualifiers with 2 games against Bahamas and played the best players in the 2 blow-outs, again because he promised. Ja ran out of funds and he had to resort to the local ballers to try and take him over the finish line, of course they couldn't and didn't. Without his declarations he could have played the local ballers in the 3 friendlies plus in the 2 games against Bahamas saving money to be able to feature the foreign based players in the 'real' qualifiers. The team would've gotten results, the waggonists would've flooded the stadium, the part of the kit deal that benefitted JA would've kicked in and the team would be heading to SA. Then again without the declarations Burrell might not have regained the presidency. What a dilemma.
Interesting take. But what I find most interesting is if you're going to fly fewer UK based players in for qualifiers why bring in and start Deon Burton. Did he pay his own ticket? If so did he do so on a condition he would start against Canada for example? What would cost have to do with flying him and Shelton over and then starting Burton??? That has to be Simoes doing and King, Nosworthy and other aside, I feel just one move - Burton over Shelton likely cost us 2 points in Canada because Burton was just a step or two too slow on more than one half chance that could have become a goal.
It is long time now that Jamaica's coffers are running on empty. I never felt like they ever had sufficient funds to survive a full tournament. I always have this sneaky feeling that if JA stayed long enough in a tournament they probably would have to quit without being eliminated, due to lack of funds. I don't think JA is capable of doing well in any tournament that requires them playing more than 4 games. I am waiting for the day to see what a financially stable JA can do in a tournament. That is why most of my posts concentrate on the financial aspect of the programme.
Reddevil not to dwell on the pass but it is ridiculous to pin our financial issues on player selection and us not making the WC.It is a problem when our budget depends on how well we do in qualifying. The coach new Burton and he is a proven scorer having seen the game I would have like to see Shelton come on a little earlier but it is done and over. The problem stems because we have no tradition in football therefore the sponsors are not committed and we have done very little in developing our football so revenue can be generated from player transfers and merchandise. I always thought we are trying to spread the little resources over too many areas and get very little success.
The captain job was to make JFF a better and more profitable organization itz not happening. The JFF is the same way as it was before he came. He should stop putting blame on Boxhill he was the one whom made it hard for Boxhill and now he is working with a free hand no need to look over his shoulder
The captain job was to make JFF a better and more profitable organization itz not happening. The JFF is the same way as it was before he came. He should stop putting blame on Boxhill he was the one whom made it hard for Boxhill and now he is working with a free hand no need to look over his shoulder
objective enough for you jray
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agreed intelligent and profitable milestones....
(i.e. one friendly per month may be intelligent but definately not profitable)
Some milestones to strive for:
1. Get a more marketable KIT deal 2. Focus on three(3) competition, u21 CAC games, u19 games and Digicel cup preparation. 3. Get the academy/training center running (w/FIFA grant) 4. Completed UWI mini-stadium (w/FIFA grant) 5. Play international friendlies at UWI (5000-2000 people)
time will tell maybe we need to have milestones... like our ranking should be above 30s in two years which i think is possible
Oh dear how sad! What you have said is soooo obvious but it hasn't been done. How sad it is that we are suggesting something that so elementary. How can a Federation president come in and just blah blah his way through everything? It SHOULD be a basic rule that any president comes in with an action plan with these goals/milestones and a chronogram that is public knowledge and be evaluated and held accountable according to how much of it is achieved or how close in dates he achieved each goal. This should be based on what he can achieve with present resources so previous administations can never be an excuse. Very basic but when yuh running a patty shop.....oh well...
