Well im not sure if Wenger would make that sort of gesture cause i dont remember him eve being in the situation, i do know he would not do it for Brown lol. They dont get along. And correction, Fergie wasn't really with him "well after the whistle". It was like 2 mins max. Hull and Newcastle games started the same time and Hull ended maybe 2 mins after if that much.

He's not talking down on small teams when he says in his opinion the Carling Cup winner should get a Euro place(not like a small team wins it anyway). Wenger is ussually very complimentary of other teams. Except a few like Stoke, Bolton, Hull. And thats because those teams injure his players regularly lol

I also feel like Chelsea have scored all their goals this weekend and come tuesday will flop against milan.

In the premier league I think they are going to draw with Portsmouth and Villa. Then the crucial game between ManU and them. Then they will try to get the FA cup after losing out in the Champions League. B the time they get to the Liverpool and wigan game players minds will be on the World Cup so Wigan will beat them again and Liverpool will be fighting for that fourth spot.

Thanks for the well wishes, they went well(missed chelsea inter cuz of them though:( )

To be honest thought, if both shawcross feet were off the ground no leg could of been broken. Studs were never shown definately. But he did hav both legs off the ground (granted the right one was barely off the ground).
back to my last point though..did you see Boatengs "tackle" vs sagna in the above pic? Brown described it as a fair tackle that "didn't let me down"....those are the things Wenger gets upset about.

I don't recall anybody fouling Fabregas at all. Even if that happened there was no justification for his loss of control. Of course I disagree that Shawcross 'jumped in like a wild man', because I think he was going for the ball. Judging challenges on injuries can be misleading - Sol Campbell was trying to play the ball when he put Kamil Zayatte out for the season last week. What about when Eboue broke John Terry's foot last season?

I know we're not going to agree but the Shawcross incident was certainly less of a deliberate attempt to hurt an opponent than Gallas's shocking attempt on Mark Davies which Wenger said was a lot of fuss about nothing. I'm not having a go at Gallas in particular because players lose it sometimes and it happens, I just think Wenger should remember it before he goes labelling other players. If for no other reason than sometime soon an Arsenal player is going to lose it and hurt an opponent again and Wenger will get it back with both barrels.