why would wenger make such a gesture when the english managers (old boys club) stick together and go down the pub or their private quarters and link anyways.
Thats exactly how the English team used to get pick. Now they have a foreign manager who nuh link wid dem and the results are going englands way they are all lost. Make the english manager ever start lose and see what happen.
Wenger has no problem with no club. Wenger just does believe that his players are targets for rough and dirty play which you confuse for players that stand up.
The other day the english press was making a big deal about Arsenal's game but it obvious that they were allowed to play at not physically abused.
Kicking up a player is not the same as not allowing them space to move or pass or run..
To make out like wenger has nothing personal against the other clubs is wrong. Wenger is just another foreigner in a country that makes it known u r a foreigner at every opportunity they get.
Its like everyone quick to put down Wenger. B4 Wenger players used to be at the pub, and up to all sorts. Ah wenger change the way how football is ran and how they train and view football in England.
Dont hate on Wenger.
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Well im not sure if Wenger would make that sort of gesture cause i dont remember him eve being in the situation, i do know he would not do it for Brown lol. They dont get along. And correction, Fergie wasn't really with him "well after the whistle". It was like 2 mins max. Hull and Newcastle games started the same time and Hull ended maybe 2 mins after if that much.
He's not talking down on small teams when he says in his opinion the Carling Cup winner should get a Euro place(not like a small team wins it anyway). Wenger is ussually very complimentary of other teams. Except a few like Stoke, Bolton, Hull. And thats because those teams injure his players regularly lol
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Sol Campbell is disgraceful, what kind of tackle was that on Zayatte? He should be banned!!! How can you go in so hard on him, I know he didn't mean to injure him but that was reckless!
Sol Campbell is disgraceful, what kind of tackle was that on Zayatte? He should be banned!!! How can you go in so hard on him, I know he didn't mean to injure him but that was reckless!
Dear oh dear, did Sol hit someone hard in the match today ??
I thought that Arsenal didn't play that way and that all other teams are out to 'get' them.
My oh my, our Sol must not have been told then LOL.!
Seriously, I'm no Arsenal fan but Id like to see them win it this season over ManU and Chelsea both for the football they play and to break up the monotony of ManU winning it again.
Sol's challenge was the perfect example of a 50-50. Zayatte and Sol go in hard but fair. Sol kicks the ball and Zayatte kicks sol. Zayatte gets injured.
Sol's challenge was the perfect example of a 50-50. Zayatte and Sol go in hard but fair. Sol kicks the ball and Zayatte kicks sol. Zayatte gets injured.
On another note, I was watching the match on SportsMax and heard the commentators arguing over whether Campbell should have been carded. According to one of them, the fact that a free kick was awarded means the ref had seen the tackle as a foul, and that he should have been carded. Having already received a first half yellow card, he would have been sent off. I guess it has to do with the ref seeing Campbell play the ball first. I remember that on first glance I thought he did not play the ball - have to watch a replay later to see for sure.
I got to see the tackle on Match of The Day just now.
Sol is sliding in from 10 - 15 yards while the Hull player is still on his feet so its not 50/50; Sol has a further distance to travel to get to the ball and he does.
Normally, in today's P ££$$%%£ y EPL that's a foul but technically, its a challenge that the defender has a right to make and the ref calls a normal foul with no added penalties.
The ref got it right; the only rule change that's needed is to give the referee back the total right of discretion to make the calls as he sees them.
Arsenal have no right to demonise Ryan Shawcross because if Zabi's foot had been grounded as Aaron's was, Sol's tackle could have broken Zabi's leg as well, even though he got the ball.
Liam Ridgewell should have been sent off outright for the tackle on McArthy, the linesman and the $$%%£ corner flag against Wigan and that's the general consensus of us who work the dugouts at Birmingham who are fair-minded but to the rest, 'he got the ball'.
Come on guys, we all see our own players with 'rose-tinted glasses' and Landycakes got away with trying to break Ridgewell's ankle with a stamp today that was totally justified for that box in the face up at their place.
You have to remember, the ref is in the middle of a 'war' on the pitch and we have to give them credit when they do get it right.
Like I've said, 'shit happens' on the football pitch.
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Dear oh dear, did Sol hit someone hard in the match today ??
I thought that Arsenal didn't play that way and that all other teams are out to 'get' them.
My oh my, our Sol must not have been told then LOL.!
Seriously, I'm no Arsenal fan but Id like to see them win it this season over ManU and Chelsea both for the football they play and to break up the monotony of ManU winning it again.
Thank you Ric, I think you understood exactly my point, shit happens in football, so stop demonizing Shawcross.
I figured it was sarcasm. And seems i was right. But if your tryna make a comparison between shawcross "tackle" and campbells tackle, there exists none.
I figured it was sarcasm. And seems i was right. But if your tryna make a comparison between shawcross "tackle" and campbells tackle, there exists none.
Not getting involved in an argument between u an Technic but my question to you is; why not ?
Sol Campbell was blown for a foul for a tackle that could easily have injured the player as badly as Shawcross's did.
He ended up kicking the lad 5 feet up into the air; if the player's feet had been grounded. a broken ankle was easily the result of that tackle.
If there is any comparison, that is where it lies, imo and the result of going one way or another is pure luck.
Theres no similarity becuz Sol Campbell slide in 100% fairly with no over agression had both feet on the floor made 100 contact with the ball and then Zayatte who also went in fairly kicked sol and went flying.
Where as shawcross lunged in, with both feet of the ground, swung wildly and went 5 inches over the ball into the middle of ramseys leg.
I dont see the similarity. Shawcross should watch Sol's tackle and learn a thing or two about how to properly execute a tackle.
Theres no similarity becuz Sol Campbell slide in 100% fairly with no over agression had both feet on the floor made 100 contact with the ball and then Zayatte who also went in fairly kicked sol and went flying.
Where as shawcross lunged in, with both feet of the ground, swung wildly and went 5 inches over the ball into the middle of ramseys leg.
I dont see the similarity. Shawcross should watch Sol's tackle and learn a thing or two about how to properly execute a tackle.
Obviously you must have been watching another game and another tackle. If the referee had adjudged Sol's tackle to be 100% fair, he would not have blown a foul for it so in that respect, both tackles were fouls according to the match official.
I've completely excluded from the issue any debate by the scribes (media commentators) as to whether Sol should have been second-yellow carded and sent off for the foul as that is totally irrelevant.
The match officials decision on the tackle is the only important decision here, not our personal opinions on whether it was a good tackle, fair tackle, dirty tackle, or otherwise.
The referee blew a foul for the tackle and that makes it as illegal a tackle as Shawcross's was.
I was gonna say the same as jagunner but since he has said it.
I also feel like Chelsea have scored all their goals this weekend and come tuesday will flop against milan.
In the premier league I think they are going to draw with Portsmouth and Villa. Then the crucial game between ManU and them. Then they will try to get the FA cup after losing out in the Champions League. B the time they get to the Liverpool and wigan game players minds will be on the World Cup so Wigan will beat them again and Liverpool will be fighting for that fourth spot.
For ManU they have hurdles like Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and Spurs. But these hard games I feel will keep them focused. The wont want Man City to beat them. They will not make Chelsea beat them.. Well I think Chelsea is crap anyway and overhyped and overated. And it will be a hard game the Liverpool game and Spurs will try their best to keep that fourth spot... How you mean. Champions League next year. ( Thats the Omen why I feel Arsenal wont win the league coz good things dont happen at the same time for the two North London Clubs)....
For Arsenal.. They say an easy run in but I say naw. West Ham, Wolves and Wigan are fighting for survival. Birmingham wants european challenge. Then they have the North London Derby and Adebayor. They can do it but they can slip up as well. And with the Champions League as the main dream mi nuh sure if they will stay injury free in the league much less fi challenge in the Champions League. Ever notice how Arsenal loves the champions League.. Thats bcoz they are allowed to and the teams involved play football..
I think Chelsea will falter. U cant count ManU out and Arsenal will either win the CL and PL together or lose them both together.
And Mark Hughes will get the last laugh at Man City. Liverpool will bid the french manager farewell. And Spurs will be the decider.
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Nope i watched the game. IT wasn't a foul and the ref giving them a free kick was just one of many TERRIBLE decisions he made (if u watched the match im sure u heard the commentators wondering why such a good tackle was being punished with a foul.) It wasnt a yellow card, it wasnt a foul. simple. Sol shud of got sent off for the pen altho it was offside and it wasnt a pen in the first place, but since the ref did call a foul Sol by letter of the law shud of been sent off aswell for being the last man.(another one of the refs bad decisions) Not to mention Boateng goin up to Bendtner from behind and putting his hand in his face and poking him in the eye(thats allowed now?). And then Boateng wild studs showing high tackle on sagna's KNEE when the ball was NOWHERE near him
and ppl wonder why Wenger complains about the stokes hulls and boltons.
