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#150566 - 02/27/10 09:54 AM Stoke - Gunners
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Commentators having a love fest with Fuller - pretty much a man crush...

1 love Stoke.
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#150567 - 02/27/10 10:20 AM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: jray]
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yeah I said it in a different thread as well. 'slippery like soap' lol. Doesn't sound right in jail terms but hey...
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#150568 - 02/27/10 11:00 AM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: alfinite]
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I feel it :(. Hope Ramsey can recover
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#150570 - 02/27/10 11:49 AM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: alfinite]
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Prayers out to Ramsey...speedy recovery...
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#150576 - 02/27/10 04:37 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: jray]
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ouch.... It did sour the game but funny enugh I felt it for Shawcross aw well coz he aint really a dirty player and a good defender as well...

It wasn't even a dirty tackle, it just that Ramsey's foot was stuck in the ground when shawcross swung after the ball...

But for me the handshake between Terry and Bridge was the big thing of the day.
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#150578 - 02/27/10 04:41 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: jt]
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 Originally Posted By: jt
ouch.... It did sour the game but funny enugh I felt it for Shawcross aw well coz he aint really a dirty player and a good defender as well...

It wasn't even a dirty tackle, it just that Ramsey's foot was stuck in the ground when shawcross swung after the ball...

But for me the handshake between Terry and Bridge was the big thing of the day.



It was unfortunate that the JT/Bridge incident happened in front of the kid - see the pic. But whats Bridge's problem? Isnt the girl his ex-? Or did JT tek her way fran him?



Edited by ericdread (02/27/10 04:43 PM)

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#150583 - 02/27/10 05:24 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: ericdread]
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 Originally Posted By: ericdread
 Originally Posted By: jt
ouch.... It did sour the game but funny enugh I felt it for Shawcross aw well coz he aint really a dirty player and a good defender as well...

It wasn't even a dirty tackle, it just that Ramsey's foot was stuck in the ground when shawcross swung after the ball...

But for me the handshake between Terry and Bridge was the big thing of the day.



It was unfortunate that the JT/Bridge incident happened in front of the kid - see the pic. But whats Bridge's problem? Isnt the girl his ex-? Or did JT tek her way fran him?



Its not that she was his ex....how would you feel if ur 'best friend' did go make your baby madda pregnant behind ur back afta unna break up and have fi hav an abortion to hide the deed ?

No yard man caan tell me sey im wouldn't ben fi dat; if dis was ordinary yard 'mix up' ting, maybe even nuff box an kick put on pon de gal an nuff gun butt inna bwoy face !!

Memba sey, every man is human an hav the same feelings.

Craig Bellamy is a bwoy weh fi im mout nu join no church an im come out plain today an sey a just so John Terry stay an every man inna de football circle done know dat aredy; Wayne Bridge had every reason to belive sey JT at least wuuda did respect dem friendship.

Wid yu madda as a tief and u fadda as a drug dealer, wha more can u expect; the chip neva fall far from the block nuh !!

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#150589 - 02/27/10 07:10 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: jt]
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Don't agree with you on that JT. The handshake or lack there of was pretty funny between City and Chelsea but the Ramsey story pretty much killed that one. If you see headlines in England its all Ramsey.

On another note, funny thing though is SWP isn't rated by English fans at all. I've been reading message boards and he's not even in the 22-man squad. Damn shame.

He'll be in the English squad next week.
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#150590 - 02/27/10 07:32 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: alfinite]
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 Originally Posted By: alfinite
Don't agree with you on that JT. The handshake or lack there of was pretty funny between City and Chelsea but the Ramsey story pretty much killed that one. If you see headlines in England its all Ramsey.

On another note, funny thing though is SWP isn't rated by English fans at all. I've been reading message boards and he's not even in the 22-man squad. Damn shame.

He'll be in the English squad next week.


A real pity and tragedy for Aaron Ramsey; Sky never replay the tackle and mi glad sey mi miss it, mi bredren shield im eye so mi know sey it did terrible.

Aaron Lennon is the best right winger in England and when im fit, every guy have to tek back seat, is Capello's bwoy dat !

Problem with SWP is that his final ball lacking in end product and consistency, same with Theo Walcott and most of the pretenders to that position.

'Old bwoy' Beckham can still tun ova dem likkle yute ya wen it come to a final ball that creates something special.

Look for Lennon to start in S. Africa.

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#150591 - 02/27/10 08:01 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: Ric]
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 Originally Posted By: Ric
 Originally Posted By: ericdread
 Originally Posted By: jt
ouch.... It did sour the game but funny enugh I felt it for Shawcross aw well coz he aint really a dirty player and a good defender as well...

It wasn't even a dirty tackle, it just that Ramsey's foot was stuck in the ground when shawcross swung after the ball...

But for me the handshake between Terry and Bridge was the big thing of the day.



It was unfortunate that the JT/Bridge incident happened in front of the kid - see the pic. But whats Bridge's problem? Isnt the girl his ex-? Or did JT tek her way fran him?



Its not that she was his ex....how would you feel if ur 'best friend' did go make your baby madda pregnant behind ur back afta unna break up and have fi hav an abortion to hide the deed ?

No yard man caan tell me sey im wouldn't ben fi dat; if dis was ordinary yard 'mix up' ting, maybe even nuff box an kick put on pon de gal an nuff gun butt inna bwoy face !!

Memba sey, every man is human an hav the same feelings.

Craig Bellamy is a bwoy weh fi im mout nu join no church an im come out plain today an sey a just so John Terry stay an every man inna de football circle done know dat aredy; Wayne Bridge had every reason to belive sey JT at least wuuda did respect dem friendship.

Wid yu madda as a tief and u fadda as a drug dealer, wha more can u expect; the chip neva fall far from the block nuh !!


Ok, I never got the full story. But even wid brethren sometimes,
man and woman business can be tricky.

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#150597 - 02/28/10 03:14 AM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: ericdread]
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http://goal.com/en-us/news/86/italy/2010...n-terrys-affair

Phalanx Prophecy: Italy Responds To John Terry's Affair Lightheartedly
There's only one proper response to the glitz of celebrity drama -- parody. Italy dealt with the visiting John Terry in a lighthearted manner this week, Zac Lee Rigg explains, before previewing the weekend Serie A action.
By Zac Lee Rigg
Feb 26, 2010 1:18:00 PM

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Though his team lost and Diego Milito make him look like a bit like a turnstile, John Terry just may have enjoyed his trip to Italy this week.

Unlike the nearly puritan press of the USA and England, in Italy, well, nobody cares about affairs. Or at least there is less moral outrage towards them.

This is a country boasting a prime minister, AC Milan president Silvio Berlusconi, who made his fortune as a media tycoon, capitalizing on sleazy and glitzy television programming. He also frequently (and less than convincingly) denies affairs with underage girls and stints with prostitutes. In his latest election, he divorced his wife after she publicly condemned his legion of models-turned-politicians in the parliament.

Salon.com used the phrase “Berlusconi's empire of boobs.”

Needless to say, Terry's infidelity looks like child's play (pun intended) in comparison. Hell, Wayne Bridge and his partner had already split up by the time the Chelsea captain got around to tasting the goods. That's hardly worth a blurb in Gazzetta dello Sport even if Terry were Italian.

But since the English are blowing their lids (bad pun intended) over it, Italy noticed, and dealt with it using the lack of regard such a trivial and sensationalized story deserves.

'Le Iene' (translation: hyenas), a television program, waited outside Chelsea's team hotel on Thursday along with throngs of fans looking for pictures and autographs. When Terry made his way through to the bus, the host of the program gave the 29-year-old a condom. At first Terry tried to ignore him, but he came back and accepted the gift with a chuckle.



Since the affair, I can't recall once seeing Terry smile, even when he's scored game winners. Instead, his face looks frozen in a determined scowl. But in light of the playful prank, he cracked a grin of genuine appreciation.

The incident may leave Terry more motivated than ever to overcome Internazionale in the Champions League, if only to leave England for a few days in the quarterfinal round.

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#150603 - 02/28/10 05:38 AM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: Ric]
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So Ric, would u include SWP in the squad period? Better yet, do you think Cappello will include him for the world cup?
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#150941 - 03/05/10 12:02 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: alfinite]
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Still hot after the Shawcross-Ramsey issue. Wenger has not backed down from his comments. He said he didn't want to hear how nice Shawcross is and that it's Arsenal against the World that everyone comes out to kick the Funners. In other words, he has accused Shawcross of malice and intent to hurt Ramsey. Let me say I have not seen the incident but if Jt and many other Funners fans recognise it was an accident that says a lot to me. Yet Arsene "I didn't see it (when his players do it)" Wenger still can't understand why he has had to defend himself in the press. Here is a take from Sky Sports Chris Kamara in response to one of the fans who believes Wenger.

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My name is Meshack and I am an Arsenal fan. What happened to Aaron Ramsey is totally unacceptable in a game of football. Football was meant to be played and enjoyed, not a physical battle. The Premier League should look into such tackles and come out with serious punishments for any player involved. I think this is the only way players can avoid this kind of tackle. You can't keep breaking people's legs. PLEASEEEEEEEEEE look into it critically. Thanks to SKY SPORTS. Meshack Omonkalo



KAMMY SAYS: I looked at this incident closely on Sunday. I didn't want to see the leg break, but I wanted to see what actually happened so I slowed down the video. We couldn't show it on Goals on Sunday - and you can't really see it in real time - but it wasn't actually a tackle. Shawcross was trying to kick the ball away but Ramsey nicked the ball and the Stoke defender's foot landed on top of his. If it was a high challenge or if there was any intent then I would condemn Shawcross straight away, but it wasn't like that. It's an unfortunate accident, the likes of which have been happening for years. If you get the chance to see the footage slowed down, Meshack, I'm sure you'll see that.

I know a lot of pundits say that if you get stuck into Arsenal then they're not the same team. I don't see anything wrong with teams showing competitiveness and trying to get tight to Arsenal, as long as they don't go over the boundaries. When this sort of situation comes up people say this it's unacceptable and accuse teams of trying to break the legs of Arsenal players. In fact, this was just an accident.

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#150943 - 03/05/10 12:12 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: reddevil]
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It's sad for Ramsey. But in the end maybe Arsenal need to re-learn how to get tough as they were in the days of Adams, Keown, Winterburn, Dixon, Parlour and Vieira when they did the kicking and elbowing. Football is a multifaceted game it's cerebral, skillful and physical and Arsenal lost that toughness aspect once they lost Vieira that's why they are sitting ducks when other teams go out there and overpower them. It's a sport, it's competition your opponent is out there to get a result for itself and use whatever its best resources and strategies are to get that result and send its fans home happy. They are not there to play into your hands.
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#150957 - 03/05/10 06:22 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: reddevil]
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Umm no it has nothing to do with re-learning how to be tough. They have showed many times this season they are ready for a fight and willing to step up in physical games.
Its all about having wild over physical teams. Ive been saying since Stoke got promoted they are a terribly wild rugby side that will break legs. And sadly i have been proven right. Shawcross hasn now broken two legs. How long till ppl realise he IS exactly that type of player.
Nothing about Stoke is remotely interesting and good to watch, sucks there play results in enough points to survive.


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#150991 - 03/07/10 05:36 AM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: jagunner]
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Arsenal "fans" are just as deluded as their Manager. Stoke is not an OVER physical side nor are they a "terribly wild rugby side". Shawcross was trying to kick the ball when Ramsey nicked in just before him and poked it away and ended up with him being caught. It was terribly unfortunate but it was NOT a result of over physical play.
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#150993 - 03/07/10 06:24 AM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: Technic]
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Arsenal "fans" ? whats with the quotations?
Stoke is an over physical side. If is not a rugby side is a american football side. They hav a quarter back so is prolly american football ye. Ye ye bla bla shawcross didnt mean to break Ramsey foot,no one said he did, not even Wenger. It was still wild. and it is the USSUALL thing for a stoke player. That team is worse than the Bolton team under Allardyce. It really does suck that their pathetic "football" keeps them in the league.

Shawcross is a leg breaker. he has broken two legs now. how much more will be break before he retires?

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#150998 - 03/07/10 12:14 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: jagunner]
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It is funny how some of us have seemed to accept dirty tough and rough play as part of the beautiful game.

Not sure if this is the case because England is the centre of football at the moment with the most popular premier league at the moment, thus their brand of football seems tasty but yes we know its a contact sport but is this just for the mens division or are kids allowed this contact as well??

Would you mind someone roughing up your child because its a contact sport??

As Wenger said, would the spanish or their press accept it being said U have to rough up Barcelona to beat them??

Are some of us mistaking wrestling, american football and rugby as the beautiful game.

I argue that those that value a dirty, rough and tough game are those that dont know how to play. They are those that are incompetent at the artistry of the game. They are those that are not appreciative of real football.

Of course we all accept Arsenal have lost the physical edge to their game and yes it is known playing Arsenal rough affects the Gunners but to then accept rough and hard play as a tactic ?? Are we not in danger of teaching our youth the wrong characteristics of football??

Or is it proof that a game of football without rough and hard tackles would see Arsenal unstoppable???

Attacking football is about skill, dribbling, passing, running, positioning and scoring and defensive football is the same running, and positioning, space marking, man marking, blocking, talking and communicating and prevent scoring. In both parts of football tackling and possession works but no one talks about dirty play. Thats the bit we accept when all else fails..........
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#151010 - 03/07/10 04:32 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: jt]
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Again, Shawcross tackle was not a result of rough or over physical play but Ramsey being very unfortunate. He was trying to kick the ball when Ramsey nicked in and poked the ball away. You will see in every angle that Shawcross's studs were down, his foot was not high or over the ball. What is so hard to understand about that?
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#151015 - 03/07/10 08:20 PM Re: Stoke - Gunners [Re: jt]
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It is funny how some of us have seemed to accept dirty tough and rough play as part of the beautiful game.

Not sure if this is the case because England is the centre of football at the moment with the most popular premier league at the moment, thus their brand of football seems tasty but yes we know its a contact sport but is this just for the mens division or are kids allowed this contact as well??

Would you mind someone roughing up your child because its a contact sport??

As Wenger said, would the spanish or their press accept it being said U have to rough up Barcelona to beat them??

Are some of us mistaking wrestling, american football and rugby as the beautiful game.

I argue that those that value a dirty, rough and tough game are those that dont know how to play. They are those that are incompetent at the artistry of the game. They are those that are not appreciative of real football.

Of course we all accept Arsenal have lost the physical edge to their game and yes it is known playing Arsenal rough affects the Gunners but to then accept rough and hard play as a tactic ?? Are we not in danger of teaching our youth the wrong characteristics of football??

Or is it proof that a game of football without rough and hard tackles would see Arsenal unstoppable???

Attacking football is about skill, dribbling, passing, running, positioning and scoring and defensive football is the same running, and positioning, space marking, man marking, blocking, talking and communicating and prevent scoring. In both parts of football tackling and possession works but no one talks about dirty play. Thats the bit we accept when all else fails..........



Jt, I'm not sure anyone is defending dirty play. We are talking physical play the same type of game Arsenal used to play to perfection it's just that Wenger never saw it when they did it. We are talking going into tackles hard bouncing people off the ball fairly but when you have midgets like Arsenal you will lose out on those 50-50 plays where strength counts. It's something Jamaica uses and you same one will defend it. Anyway it's kinda funny to see your moral speech about men kicking and roughing up men when you defended Marlon King making light of his beating down a woman. Talk to your kids about that! You have a daughter Jt?


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