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#150335 - 02/22/10 09:11 AM
Book of Jeremiah – New Archaeological Discovery
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Noel2000
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Book of Jeremiah – New Archaeological Discovery. The British Museum yesterday hailed a discovery within a modest clay tablet in its collection as a breakthrough for biblical archaeology – dramatic proof of the accuracy of the Old Testament.
The cuneiform inscription in a tablet dating from 595BC has been deciphered for the first time – revealing a reference to an official at the court of Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, that proves the historical existence of a figure mentioned in the Book of Jeremiah.
This is rare evidence in a nonbiblical source of a real person, other than kings, featured in the Bible. The tablet names a Babylonian officer called Nebo-Sarsekim, who according to Jeremiah 39 was present in 587BC when Nebuchadnezzar “marched against Jerusalem with his whole army and laid siege to it”.
The cuneiform inscription records how Nebo-Sarsekim lavished a gift of gold on the Temple of Esangila in the fabled city of Babylon, where, at least in folk tradition, Nebuchadnezzar is credited with building the Hanging Gardens, one of the Seven Wonders of the World. British Museum staff are excited by the discovery. Irving Finkel, assistant keeper in the Department of the Middle East, said: “A mundane commercial transaction takes its place as a primary witness to one of the turning points in Old Testament history. This is a tablet that deserves to be famous.”
The discovery was made by Michael Jursa, associate professor at the University of Vienna, on a routine research trip to the museum. “It’s very exciting and very surprising,” he said. “Finding something like this tablet, where we see a person mentioned in the Bible making an everyday payment to the temple in Babylon and quoting the exact date, is quite extraordinary.”
Since 1991, Dr Jursa has been visiting the museum to study a collection of more than 100,000 inscribed tablets – the world’s largest holdings. Although they are examined by international scholars daily, reading and piecing together fragments is painstaking work and more than half are yet to be published.
Cuneiform is the oldest known form of writing. During its 3,000-year history it was used to write about 15 languages including Babylonian, Assyrian, Hittite and Urartian. A wedged instrument – usually a cut reed – was used to press the signs into clay. This gave the writing system its name, “cuneiform”, or wedge-shaped.
There are only a small number of scholars worldwide who can read cuneiform script. One of them is Dr Jursa, who told The Times yesterday that the British Museum tablet was so well preserved that it took him just a couple of minutes to decipher.
This one – which is 2.13 inches (5.5cm) wide – was acquired by the British Museum in 1920. Dr Jursa said: “But no one realised the connection. They didn’t really read it.”
It was unearthed from the ancient city of Sippar, where there was a huge sun temple, just over a mile from modern-day Baghdad. It was part of a large temple archive excavated for the British Museum in the 1870s.
Dr Jursa, who made the discovery while conducting research into officials at the Babylonian court, said that the tablet recorded Nebo-Sarsekim’s gift of gold to the temple – a gift so large that it would be comparable in value today to the cost of a large townhouse.
On hearing of the discovery yesterday, Geza Vermes, the eminent emeritus professor of Jewish studies at the University of Oxford, said that such a discovery revealed that “the Biblical story is not altogether invented”. He added: “This will be interesting for religious people as much as historians.”
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#150364 - 02/23/10 03:11 AM
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Where have YOU been hibernating?
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#150376 - 02/23/10 09:36 AM
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Come on Tman, slodiers don't hibernate a soldier has to be vigilant at all times.
Tman, explain this to me:
Is Allah the Name of God?
Allah is the name of the only God in Islam. Allah is a pre-Islamic name coming from the compound Arabic word Al-ilah which means the God, which is derived from al (the) ilah (deity).
The Arabic name for “God” is the word “Al-ilah.” It is a generic title for whatever god was considered the highest god. Different Arab tribes used “Allah” to refer to its personal high god. “Allah” was being worshipped at the Kaa’ba in Mecca by Arabs prior to the time of Mohammed. It was formerly the name of the chief god among the numerous idols (360) in the Kaaba in Mecca before Mohammed made them into monotheists. Historians have shown that the moon god called “Hubal” was the god to whom Arabs prayed at the Kaa’ba and they used the name “Allah” when they prayed.
Today a Muslim is one who submits to the God Allah.
Islam means submission to (Allah), but originally it meant that strength which characterized a desert warrior who, even when faced with impossible odds, would fight to the death for his tribe. (Dr. M. Baravmann, The Spiritual Background of Early Islam, E. J. Brill, Leiden, 1972)
Many believe the word “Allah” was derived from the mid- eastern word “el” which in Ugaritic, Caananite and Hebrew can mean a true or false God. This is not the case, “The source of this (Allah) goes back to pre-Muslim times. Allah is not a common name meaning “God” (or a “god”), and the Muslim must use another word or form if he wishes to indicate any other than his own peculiar deity.” (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics (ed. Hastings), I:326.)
According to the Encyclopedia of Religion, Allah corresponded to the Babylonian god Baal, and Arabs knew of him long before Mohammed worshipped him as the supreme God.
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#150399 - 02/24/10 04:45 AM
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Allah is not the "name" of God. Allah has 99 names, or attributes, as described in the Qur'an, Most Merciful, Wise, Compassionate etc, etc. Allah is the Arabic word that means the Supreme Being. Its the same word used by pre-Islamic Arabs to describe God. That does not mean Muslims are worshiping the false gods or pre-Islamic Arabia. That is faulty reasoning. It just means they are using the same word "Allah" to indicate the Creator. Clear?
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#150414 - 02/24/10 08:38 AM
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Allah is not the "name" of God. Allah has 99 names, or attributes, as described in the Qur'an, Most Merciful, Wise, Compassionate etc, etc. Allah is the Arabic word that means the Supreme Being. Its the same word used by pre-Islamic Arabs to describe God. That does not mean Muslims are worshiping the false gods or pre-Islamic Arabia. That is faulty reasoning. It just means they are using the same word "Allah" to indicate the Creator. Clear?
Tman, thanks for the clarification.
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#150415 - 02/24/10 08:46 AM
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Exactly! The Jews don't have a name for God either...they sometime refer to God by his attributes eg. Elohim (God), El (mighty one), El Shaddai (almighty God), Adonai (master), El Elyon (most high God), Avinu (our Father), etc. are not names but titles, highlighting different aspects of YHWH, and the various roles which He has. Ehyeh asher ehyeh is the sole response given to Moses when he asks for God's name (Exodus 3:14). Although it is generally rendered in English as "I am that I am," better renderings might be "I will be what I will be" or "I will be who I will be", or even "I will be because I will be." Other renderings include: “I WILL BE THAT I WILL BE”; “I Will Become whatsoever I please” or "I am The Being."
I belive that God doesn't have a name. The tendency to give a name to God is to compare him to Humans or make Him equivalent to the Gods of the polytheistic religions. Among the Abrahamic faiths,the aim of zealots to say that their religion is the one true religion and God's name is this or that is to totally miss God and yeild to the human need for power.
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#150419 - 02/24/10 10:05 AM
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gizmo,
greetings in the mighty name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior and soon coming King.
It is factual that God has many attributes, but he also has a personal name. Lets look at some Bible references:
Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore My people shall know My name; therefore in that day I am the one who is speaking, 'Here I am.'"
Exodus 6 vs 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Psalm 68:4 Sing to God, sing praises to His name; Lift up a song for Him who rides through the deserts, Whose name is the LORD, and exult before Him.
Psalm 83:18 That they may know that You alone, whose name is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth.
Jeremiah 16:21 "Therefore behold, I am going to make them know-- This time I will make them know My power and My might; And they shall know that My name is the LORD."
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#150427 - 02/24/10 12:34 PM
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The word Jehovah is derived from the Tetragrammaton YHWH which in translation some pronounce as Jehovah. Some people translate it to Yahweh which means "He Brings Into Existence Whatever Exists." The Jews diliberately created the Tetragrammaton to prevent people from taking the lord's name in vain. Some people assert that God told his name to Moses, however, as I pointed out above most scholar acknowledge that Ehyeh asher ehyeh is generally rendered in English as "I am that I am" or "I am The Being."
If you're saying that God's name is Jesus, at best that argument means that God manifested himself as Jesus during that period for the purpose of providing the world with a messiah. I know that Jesus wasn't parying to himself while he was on earth and that he was a practising Jew who said he did not come to change the laws of Moses.
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#150440 - 02/24/10 03:02 PM
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If you're saying that God's name is Jesus, at best that argument means that God manifested himself as Jesus during that period for the purpose of providing the world with a messiah. I know that Jesus wasn't parying to himself while he was on earth and that he was a practising Jew who said he did not come to change the laws of Moses. [/quote]
I am not saying that God's name is Jesus, I am saying that Jesus Christ is God Almighty manifested in the flesh.
JESUS DEMONSTRATED HIS DIVINITY BY HIS RESURRECTION. The Resurrection is vitally important for many reasons: (1) Jesus kept his promise to rise from the dead, so we can believe he will keep all his other promises. (2) The Resurrection ensures that the ruler of God’s eternal kingdom will be the living Christ, not just an idea, hope, or dream. (3) Christ’s resurrection gives us the assurance that we also will be resurrected. (4) The power of God that brought Christ’s body back from the dead is available to us to bring our morally and spiritually dead selves back to life so that we can change and grow (1 Corinthians 15:12-19). (5) The Resurrection provides the substance of the church’s witness to the world. We do not merely tell lessons from the life of a good teacher; we proclaim the reality of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. BIBLE READING: Philippians 2:1-11 KEY BIBLE VERSE: Because of this, God raised him up to the heights of heaven and gave him a name that is above every other name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:9-11)
gizmo, now reflect back to Psalm 83:18 That they may know that You alone, whose name is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth.
The Psalmist is saying God is the only one whose name is the Lord. Philippians 2:9-11 says: Jesus Christ is Lord.
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#150446 - 02/24/10 04:09 PM
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absolute nonsense
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#150448 - 02/24/10 04:22 PM
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I didn't expect anything from a pig, but a grunt. What is your basis Trini for such assertion and what are you refering to?
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#150451 - 02/24/10 04:38 PM
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I didn't expect anything from a pig, but a grunt. What is your basis Trini for such assertion and what are you refering to? drape him up yes noel , I was a roman catholic priest for 13 years until ah got married , i have'nt been to church since .
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#150466 - 02/25/10 06:02 AM
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Noel get back in your hole, no where in the Bible or in the Quran does Jesus tells you that he is a Christian or a Jew, Jesus knew nothing of Christianity, and he was certainly not a Jew, stop living a lie, stop listen to those Hog eating, foot shuffleing, hankerchif head Negro's and may be you can start thinging for your self in stead of quoteing, leave Revrend Pig foot and the die and go to heaven in Jesus name alone.
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#150467 - 02/25/10 06:11 AM
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A six day old child, meaning they have only been on the earth for six thousand years, discovers a room that the parent built and now come to claim it, give me a break, the Phony so called wana be Jews, macquerading as the people of God, there is a verse in the Holy Quran that says and i am just paraphaseing, When an unrightous man brings you news, look into it carefuly before you take it and hurt people.
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#150490 - 02/25/10 11:53 AM
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Noel get back in your hole, no where in the Bible or in the Quran does Jesus tells you that he is a Christian or a Jew, Jesus knew nothing of Christianity, and he was certainly not a Jew, stop living a lie, stop listen to those Hog eating, foot shuffleing, hankerchif head Negro's and may be you can start thinging for your self in stead of quoteing, leave Revrend Pig foot and the die and go to heaven in Jesus name alone.
Marklon, you are one confused individual. Are you going to spend the rest of your life on earth being: a black man, a religious fanatic? why dont you just spend the rest of your life on earth as a man of God and do his will?
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#150508 - 02/25/10 04:39 PM
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You have some nerve calling somebody confused, and yes i am an Original Asaiatic Black Man, and speaking the truth with courage does not make one a fanatic, Jesus said if any man would hurt a child a mill stone should be tied around his neck and he be tossed in the ocean, and one more thing about being black, there is two very important principles in life, accept your own and be yourself.
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#150511 - 02/25/10 07:56 PM
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[quote=Marklon]You have some nerve calling somebody confused, and yes i am an Original Asaiatic Black Man.
Marklon, did God create you in his image or did he create you as a Black Man?
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#150514 - 02/25/10 09:00 PM
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Hey Noel...its all about belief and you are entitled to your belief. You get criticized because your arguments are almost always circular because you quote the very thing you're trying to prove in order to prove your assertion. I think that I am guilty of it too sometimes.
I grew up in the church and still believe that Christ is God's son. However, the older I got is the more I realized that Jesus prayed to God while he was on earth. I know about the concept of the trinity, but even using that concept, Jesus praying to himself, answering himself and receiving his own blessing when he's baptized by John...how do you explain that even from the perspective of one who has faith.
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#150517 - 02/26/10 01:13 AM
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I am a direct decendant of god, David the PSLAMIST said dont you know that ye are all GOds decendants of the most high God, let go of the white mans made up religion, i love Jesus but i am not a fool my Christian Brother.
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