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#150520 - 02/26/10 03:20 AM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: Ric]
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Suh, how bout squeezing off two tickets?
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#150545 - 02/27/10 02:49 AM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: jray]
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Suh, how bout squeezing off two tickets?


If Brumingham get to the FA Cup semis at Wembley, I'll hav a couple for sale

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#151008 - 03/07/10 03:24 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: Ric]
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so how mr man doing !!!
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#151009 - 03/07/10 03:56 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: triniman]
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so how mr man doing !!!

I made enquiries last match and I should get some feedback this Sat when Everton are in town.

I'll pass on whatever I get.

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#151158 - 03/11/10 05:41 AM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: Ric]
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Morgan needs caps for contract
Published: Thursday | March 11, 2010 0 Comments and 0 Reactions


Marvin Morgan chases the ball during a training session for the Reggae Boyz at St George's College. Looking on are Tivoli Gardens' Navion Boyd (left) and Keammar Daley. - Ricardo Makyn/Staff Photographer

Ryon Jones, Gleaner Writer

Schoolboy football sensation Marvin Morgan Jr, who left the island on February 16 for a trial with Birmingham City, will not be getting a contract with the English Premier League (EPL) club just now because he does not qualify for a work permit.

However, Morgan may be seconded to a lower division club in Spain to facilitate the process of him qualifying for a work permit.

Morgan has reportedly impressed at Birmingham, scoring three goals in as many matches with the reserve team. But the St George's College midfielder, who represented the Light Blues with distinction in his first Manning Cup season, has not been offered a contract because he will be 18 years old in the next couple of months, which will require him having to do everything for himself.

Problems

This includes applying for a work permit, which is impossible at the moment because he has not played any game for Jamaica, outside of the youth level, thus he does not have the required percentage of international caps to qualify.

"The people at Birmingham are very interested to sign me but, with me turning 18 in a couple of months, I would need to have a certain number of international caps," said Morgan.

"So they have come to a decision that they are going to send me to Spain to join a club there until I have played enough matches for my country."

He added: "I trained with the reserve team and with the academy and we played some squad games. We played against the reserve team three times and I scored in the all three games."

Morgan was called up for the Reggae Boyz training squad ahead of the January 31 meeting with Canada, but did not make the final squad.

Before leaving Jamaica, he was representing Boys' Town in the Digicel Premier League, having made his debut on February 3 against Harbour View.

Morgan who is now in Sheffield, England, where he linked up with Reggae Boy and long-time friend Oniel Thompson, with whom he trains at Barnsley Football Club, was taken aback by the differences at Birmingham.

'Nothing like I was expecting'

"It has been nothing like I was expecting, everything is faster, the youths are different from Jamaica, youths," said Morgan. "They are rough, they are fast and they do everything quick, so I had to adjust to that.

"The academy director was impressed with me and I even met with the manager, Alex McLeish, and he said he can't do anything because Jamaica is not ranked at the best position in the world, so he is going to have to take things step by step," he added.


Edited by jamatl (03/11/10 05:43 AM)

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#151170 - 03/11/10 01:04 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: jamatl]
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Now things get tricky....he can go to Spain and obtain citizenship after two years of residency or if he is good enough he can play in La Liga without counting as a non-EU players due to an agreement with CARICOM and Spain. Once he has EU citizenship or enough caps and FIFA ranking, he can return to England.

My advice to Morgan, Jr. finish high school while taking an intensive spanish course of the next 3-6 months.

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#151181 - 03/11/10 03:45 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: WORLDBALLA]
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He just has to keep knocking.....Spain could be closer......
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Spanish giants Valencia to hold coaching camp in Jamaica

Published: Thursday | March 11, 2010

Spanish Ambassador Jesús Silva (left) makes a point to Sports Minister Olivia 'Babsy' Grange (centre), while managing director of Taino Investments, Victor Salazar-Chang, looks on during the launch of the Next Generation Proballer Easter Football Camp at the Spanish Court Hotel yesterday. - Colin Hamilton/freelance photographerRyon Jones, Gleaner Writer

One of the most successful and biggest clubs in Spanish football, Valencia, will be staging it first-ever coaching camp in Jamaica - the first in the Caribbean - for players between the ages of 12 and 18, as well as coaches in Jamaica.Valencia have won six La Liga titles, seven Copa Del Rey trophies, two Fairs Cups - which was the predecessor to the UEFA Cup - one UEFA Cup, one UEFA Cup Winners' Cup, two UEFA Super Cups and two Spanish Cups.

The camp is the brainchild of Spanish national Victor Salazar-Chang, who has resided in Jamaica for 20 years and owns Taino Trade and Investment Limited. Trade and Investment Limited has entered into a three-year contract with Valencia Football Club (FC), of which an Easter Camp will be the first initiative.

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The Next Generation Proballer Easter Football Camp will feature 100 youths and 50 coaches and will run from March 28 to April 1 at Sabina Park. The camp will cater to 100 kids and will be held from 9 a.m. to 1:30 p.m.; and later in the afternoon there will be a coaches camp.

Following a press conference at the Spanish Court Hotel yesterday, Nichole Pandohie, project and communications manager for the Next Generation Proballer Easter Football Camp, explained how the participants will be selected.

"Forty young men will be selected by the Jamaica Football Federation (JFF), along with 15 young women for the JFF women's team," said Pandohie. "Claro has also fully sponsored 10 spots and will be selecting 10 players of their own, while 30 spots will be sold to make some extra money, as well as to open up the pool to players who were not being looked at by JFF.

"It started off as a commercial venture. We were going to sell all the spots in the camp, so it was going to be very expensive as we would have to fly all these people in. We then thought that if we got sponsorship, we could offer most of the spots to high potential kids. So we have been doing a selection process over the last couple of weeks," she added.

Andre Virtue, technical director for the camp, pointed out the rationale behind the camp.

We are using this as an opportunity to showcase our talent pool to Valencia as a scouting ground and ultimately to build a football academy out here," said Virtue.
"Five coaches will be coming from Valencia to conduct the coaching in the day but we realise that in order for us to really help in the development (of football), we need to coach the coaches. So there will a coaching camp in the afternoon from 3 p.m. to 8 p.m. for coaches who coach youths between the ages of 12 and 18," he added.

The coaches will have to come up with $20, 000 to be part of the camp, while it will cost the youngsters identified by the JFF $3,500 and the spots to be sold will cost $15, 000
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#151185 - 03/11/10 04:00 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: LINCOLN]
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Ric it look like I have to link you next time I pass through the West Midland. My other half is Birmingham born and bred. I have a few friend well up there. I usually go to a Villa game when I am in town. A few years back my brethren had some of the Birmingham academy coaches to come go Jamaica.
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#151196 - 03/11/10 04:45 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: assasin]
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Ites,

Let us not forget that CARICOM nationals are counted as EU-nationals in La Liga but not the lower division in Spain.

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#151199 - 03/11/10 05:36 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: assasin]
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Ric it look like I have to link you next time I pass through the West Midland. My other half is Birmingham born and bred. I have a few friend well up there. I usually go to a Villa game when I am in town. A few years back my brethren had some of the Birmingham academy coaches to come go Jamaica.


Fi real.

Just link mi on the forum. Now that the Blues safe for next season, mi easy fi find on match days at home.

Mi ask bout Marvin last match but the man dem cagey bout football matters and neva sey nuttin much.

I feel sey this whole ting wey Seaga dem set up look like it a light fire unda JFF tail !

We know sey the link with CARICOM and the EU strong from longa time while Britain still fighting the Caribbean man haaaard, mi a tell u.

Alex McLeish must really like this yute if im intend to do something for him in Spain.

Mi know sey man like Peleppa ben when we sey Jamaican football can only survive and progress if we become an 'exporting' country but mi stand by that because the local game cannot sustain progress to get the very best players to the levels they can reach and right now Jamaica suffering 'football-wise' because of that.

It only takes one match to light the fire and it look like it a light; now all the youth systems can go all out with the support to get the yutes prepped up to compete for contracts with the best of the world's schoolboys.

That's where it really starts from and a so we a sey fi the last couple of weeks.

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#151201 - 03/11/10 05:59 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: Ric]
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Now some of top schoolboy youths truly know were they stand on the worldwide scale.
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#151208 - 03/11/10 06:25 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: jamatl]
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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
http://www.bcfc.com/page/News/AcademyDetail/0,,10412~1722474,00.html

Looks like Morgan,Jr. could possibly join a team with some of the top u18 players in Europe and the Americas.



What Morgan, Jr. is discovering now is that the Birmingham City Academy has some of the u18s in Europe not just England. As John Barnes mentioned before the EPL academies are looking for top level 16 year olds.


Edited by jamatl (03/11/10 06:28 PM)

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#151230 - 03/11/10 11:46 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: jamatl]
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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
http://www.bcfc.com/page/News/AcademyDetail/0,,10412~1722474,00.html

Looks like Morgan,Jr. could possibly join a team with some of the top u18 players in Europe and the Americas.



What Morgan, Jr. is discovering now is that the Birmingham City Academy has some of the u18s in Europe not just England. As John Barnes mentioned before the EPL academies are looking for top level 16 year olds.


This is particularly the case since the new ruling coming to the EPL next season that mandates a certain percentage of the 25-player squad has to have been 'developed' in England between the ages of 18 - 21. It doesn't stipulate that they must be English-born.

I wasn't aware that Marvin was nearer 18 than 16 by the reports that were put on the forum else I could have informed the ites that he wouldn't have been able to get a direct contract, regardless of how well he did.

He is considered a full international player now, not an academy candidate. He would have had to have been in Birmingham's academy from even before he became 16 to make this year's group that was put out in this thread earlier on.

He now has to qualify as a full Jamaican professional international and the EU (continental Europe) is the next best route for him and he's at the right age now to be going to a 'feeder club' to start that process.

This belies the statement Ericdread made on another thread that claims that the best schoolboys in New Jersey are better than their Jamaican peers; that is pure bullocks but I wasn't going to argue with him about it because of the respect I have for most of his opinions.

Jamaica can and will produce youngsters of the same level of the African ballers coming out of the big clubs academies in Africa, we just have to build the system that they have.

Why has this come so late for Jamaica when the model has been there for years ?


Edited by Ric (03/11/10 11:53 PM)

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#151231 - 03/12/10 02:27 AM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: Ric]
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"It has been nothing like I was expecting, everything is faster, the youths are different from Jamaica, youths," said Morgan. "They are rough, they are fast and they do everything quick, so I had to adjust to that."


Well done!

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#151253 - 03/12/10 01:07 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: Ric]
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Ric,

You have misquoted me, but no feel no way !

This belies the statement Ericdread made on another thread that claims that the best schoolboys in New Jersey are better than their Jamaican peers; that is pure bullocks but I wasn't going to argue with him about it because of the respect I have for most of his opinions.

If you recall, I did day "technically" better, and I do stand by that. Plus I am not sure how Morgan, as an individual, says anything otherwise.

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#151271 - 03/13/10 01:30 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: ericdread]
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Ric,

You have misquoted me, but no feel no way !

This belies the statement Ericdread made on another thread that claims that the best schoolboys in New Jersey are better than their Jamaican peers; that is pure bullocks but I wasn't going to argue with him about it because of the respect I have for most of his opinions.

If you recall, I did day "technically" better, and I do stand by that. Plus I am not sure how Morgan, as an individual, says anything otherwise.





E dread

Nuff respect.

I know what you meant when u said 'technically' better but that has to do with coaching team skills mostly and the USA has pioneered modern methods to teaching 'unskillfull' players to play the game well, if you know what I mean.

Here in Europe, natural skill is still the benchmark and that's why the EPL clubs are now scouting the world for the best under 16s to get into their clubs because the most skillful players are no longer to be found in England and certainly not America but technically good players come dime a dozen now.

Marvin has to have fit the criteria Alex is lookig for if he's promised to do something for him in Spain.

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#151464 - 03/16/10 08:31 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: triniman]
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so how mr man doing !!!


Mr. Man is returning home tomorrow

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#151471 - 03/16/10 09:23 PM Re: Marvin Morgan, Jr on trial at Birmingham City FC [Re: black1]
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Looking forward to seeing "Black Messi" finish the DPL season on a impressive note.
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