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#149942 - 02/14/10 12:33 PM Bolton v JA (Bibi Gardner Testimonial Game summer 2011)
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#149953 - 02/14/10 04:26 PM Re: Bolton v JA (Bibi Gardner Testimonial Game summer 2011) [Re: metro]
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Does this mean that this is the last time that Bibi will play for Bolton... I hope not he is just 31 he still has a good 4 years left in him
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#149954 - 02/14/10 04:32 PM Re: Bolton v JA (Bibi Gardner Testimonial Game summer 2011) [Re: Jamaicanyouth]
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 Originally Posted By: Jamaicanyouth
Does this mean that this is the last time that Bibi will play for Bolton... I hope not he is just 31 he still has a good 4 years left in him


no JY , they are just giving him a Match to show respect .
Bibi will continue to play at Bolton .
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#149969 - 02/15/10 09:45 AM Re: Bolton v JA (Bibi Gardner Testimonial Game summer 2011) [Re: metro]
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They better Owen Coyle must kno that bibi has been a soldier at the club....Jack Wilshire and Stuart Holden are great players but Bibi is the boss
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#149970 - 02/15/10 11:04 AM Re: Bolton v JA (Bibi Gardner Testimonial Game summer 2011) [Re: Jamaicanyouth]
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This is a match i'd travel to England to see...
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#151605 - 03/19/10 10:11 AM Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: metro]
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 Originally Posted By: metro
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Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone !
A plus for the Jamaica v Bolton game next summer.
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#151609 - 03/19/10 02:19 PM Re: Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: metro]
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To be honest, this may be a good time for Bibi to move on and start a new adventure. Coyle has said if Bolton stay up he hopes to take Wilshere back on loan (makes sense for all parties that wilshere does stay). If this happens i dont see Bibi getting consistent starts there. A new move could rejuvinate his career.
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#151621 - 03/19/10 08:30 PM Re: Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: jagunner]
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Well done Mr Ricardo Gardner lovely idea
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#151628 - 03/20/10 09:04 AM Re: Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: my2cents]
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Bibi again did not make the bench today, and I think that it is now obvious that he has no future at Bolton. Coyle has given him little time or respect since taking over and, god forbid, even Megson treated Bibi better. This is a pathetic way to treat the club's second longest serving player, and someone who has been a major contributor to Bolton's success over the years . I am starting to agree with Pat Dolan that Coyle is a mediocrity who has been the beneficiary of undeserved breaks.
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#151629 - 03/20/10 09:05 AM Re: Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: distributor1]
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aww come on man, you need to earn your place. It shouldn't be given to you. Lets be honest, there are better players infront of Bibi.
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#151630 - 03/20/10 10:06 AM Re: Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: jagunner]
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Bibi's had a fantastic career in the EPL but his time as a top performer is over, you can only play at your peak for so long.

He can see out his contract, get his testimonial next year and look for pasutres greener to wind down his career.

He would make a fantastic contact for Jamaican football interests to open up the doors for Jamaica's young talent to get a foothold in English football earlier, in line with their counterpart players of comparable age from here and around the globe.

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#151632 - 03/20/10 10:33 AM Re: Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: jagunner]
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 Originally Posted By: jagunner
aww come on man, you need to earn your place. It shouldn't be given to you. Lets be honest, there are better players infront of Bibi.


Is Tamir Cohen better than Bibi? Mark Davies? Samuel Ricketts? I could go on. This is not a matter of earning a place; rather, it is a matter of a manager who does not rank him. Bibi is getting older, and though he might not be the player that he was a few years ago, he is still better than a number of Bolton's players. I think that you are selling him short. Elmander, who has been an expensive failure at Bolton, is still playing, and yet he is not better than Mustapha Riga who sits on the bench, when he get on it.

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#151634 - 03/20/10 10:51 AM Re: Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: distributor1]
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 Originally Posted By: distributor1
 Originally Posted By: jagunner
aww come on man, you need to earn your place. It shouldn't be given to you. Lets be honest, there are better players infront of Bibi.


Is Tamir Cohen better than Bibi? Mark Davies? Samuel Ricketts? I could go on. This is not a matter of earning a place; rather, it is a matter of a manager who does not rank him. Bibi is getting older, and though he might not be the player that he was a few years ago, he is still better than a number of Bolton's players. I think that you are selling him short. Elmander, who has been an expensive failure at Bolton, is still playing, and yet he is not better than Mustapha Riga who sits on the bench, when he get on it.


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There is one little but very important factor that we all choose to discount as much as we are allowed to but it has to be taken into account at some time or another, even though we want to believe that the world is an 'even and equal' place; sorry, it isn't.

Why do think Ricardo Gardner has played 10 years in the EPL and never had a major transfer offer or request ?

Why do you think he's put his head down, played his football and earned his money without looking or hoping to 'milk' anything more out of his career as other, far lessor players have done?

Because he knows that he's been lucky to have found a club and manager in Big Sam who was going to give a JAMAICAN footballer a chance that many others wouldn't have simply because he is Jamaican and for no other reason than that.

His time of chance has now come to an end and he knows that; time to take his winnings and walk away now with his pride intact.

If you lived here, you would know what we face on a daily basis.

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#151656 - 03/20/10 11:17 PM Re: Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: Ric]
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Can't wrong Coyle. Bibi deh deh a jog pon the people dem pitch just like in the Gold Cup. Also made quite a few defensive errors.

Anyhow, big him up, he gave good service to club and country. Might be time to move down a league.

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#151657 - 03/21/10 03:19 AM Re: Bolton Wanderers are out of the relegation zone [Re: Shavar]
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MLS would grab him in an instant;slower pace, less frantic and more technical football than the Championship and nearer to Jamaica.

Tailor made for him now.

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#151658 - 03/21/10 04:29 AM Re: Bolton v JA (Bibi Gardner Testimonial Game summer 2 [Re: metro]
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Well fi everyone on here that didn't know...Bibi never signed to Bolton as a defender...Bibi always a play the wing fi Jamaica...You need to understand how hard it is to play left back that joins in the attack...And Bibi do it pretty well...If there were better players on Bolton ahead of Bibi then don't you think that they would have a better record....Shut gardner big ball them man deh use to cut people out dem skin an all score from corner kick...31 still young and mi did seh him shuda leave Bolton long time....Let di play him real position...
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#151708 - 03/22/10 07:27 AM Re: Bolton v JA (Bibi Gardner Testimonial Game summer 2 [Re: dallio]
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Big Sam never give Bibi a chance, Bibi was at Bolton before Big Sam come round. What has been ideal is that for the last 10+ years both the player and club has benefited from the arrangement. Things and time changes, BWFC now have a manager who wants younger players and has a playing style that doesn't include Bibi. This is surprising since the bibi fits this style(always boggled how Matt Taylor & Tamir Cohen gets selected week after week).

Fact is we don't know what goes on at these clubs, but we love our players and think they should always be playing. I dont see Bibi rocking the boat, no bust-ups or transfer requests. Personally I think he'll serve a few other clubs in UK very well, Newcastle being my primary pick.

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