Tman you're double standard is astonishing. When you attack Noel's point of view, his faith based defense of his views are insufficient. However, when it comes to Islam you either ignore factual allegations or rely on some faith based reason why some factual allegation against the Koran should be summarily dismissed. All these organized religions have tampered with the words of God. Although I have lost my faith in the organized religions, it seems to me that the Torah probably best preserves the word of God. I am not impressed by the attitudes of many of the people who called themselves "Jews" of today, but I am espcially wary of the proselytizing religions and the acts of evil committed by religious zealots in the name of God.