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#140835 - 09/29/09 08:26 AM Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in UK
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Ites,

Let us show some support for John Barnes as he fights for managerial success at Tranmere.

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He had a rough start to his managerial career but he needs string some wins together starting today against struggler Wycombe.


Keep the Fire burning, Mr. Barnes

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#140840 - 09/29/09 10:38 AM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in UK [Re: jamatl]
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It is really hard support failure. He needs to start getting some results to show that he knows what he is doing.
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#140841 - 09/29/09 10:59 AM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in UK [Re: Jagga]
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 Originally Posted By: Jagga
It is really hard support failure. He needs to start getting some results to show that he knows what he is doing.


You can´t argue against the results Jagga. But if that´s the way you feel, why do you support the Reggaeboyz after 3 straight failed World Cup bids? Just a consistency question nothing more.

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#140842 - 09/29/09 11:02 AM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in UK [Re: reddevil]
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Jus some upliftment for the man, in tough times.


Let us not forget that our soldier Ian "Pepe" Goodison is in the battle along with Barnes.



Upliftment bredrin!!!!!!!!!!

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#140843 - 09/29/09 11:06 AM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in UK [Re: reddevil]
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 Originally Posted By: reddevil
 Originally Posted By: Jagga
It is really hard support failure. He needs to start getting some results to show that he knows what he is doing.


You can´t argue against the results Jagga. But if that´s the way you feel, why do you support the Reggaeboyz after 3 straight failed World Cup bids? Just a consistency question nothing more.


No intent to disrespect your request, which I totally agree with and support.

Where was the overwhelming support that you are calling for now when Barnes was 'pushed' out of the Jamaica job in which he was clearly successful ?

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#140844 - 09/29/09 11:46 AM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in UK [Re: Ric]
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Good Luck to John Barnes and Tranmere as they kickoff in a few minutes.
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#140848 - 09/29/09 12:11 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in UK [Re: jamatl]
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There you go jamatl, 3 hours on your thread and basically no support. What did Barnes do be hated? When I think of a forum full of "we don´t support our own" and self-hate threads when probably the majority of us are Jamaican born and raised and now living in other countries and don´t support Barnes because "he isn´t really one of us" it makes me laugh and it disappoints me at the same time. What are we saying about ourselves and the majority of us and a big part of the J´can economy? I think I know how to get support for Barnes....let me put a call in and have a Latino can harshly criticise if that don´t get the forumites riled up and supporting him....nothing will

Edited by reddevil (09/29/09 12:13 PM)

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#140849 - 09/29/09 12:24 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: Ric]
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 Originally Posted By: Ric
 Originally Posted By: reddevil
 Originally Posted By: Jagga
It is really hard support failure. He needs to start getting some results to show that he knows what he is doing.


You can´t argue against the results Jagga. But if that´s the way you feel, why do you support the Reggaeboyz after 3 straight failed World Cup bids? Just a consistency question nothing more.


No intent to disrespect your request, which I totally agree with and support.

Where was the overwhelming support that you are calling for now when Barnes was 'pushed' out of the Jamaica job in which he was clearly successful ?


Actually, if you checked the archives you will find 1 or 2 threads filled with support, disgust and anger over that decision!
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#140850 - 09/29/09 12:24 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in UK [Re: reddevil]
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A Tranmere Rovers fan can come and make a post basically calling Barnes a "cruff" and it three plus pages long.

But a little bit a support when the man is in a struggle is hard to find.

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Big Up to John Barnes and keep the fire burning.

FYI, Tranmere leading 1-0 after 16 minutes.


Edited by jamatl (09/29/09 12:26 PM)

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#140852 - 09/29/09 12:31 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: Jagga]
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 Originally Posted By: Jagga
It is really hard support failure. He needs to start getting some results to show that he knows what he is doing.


So Jagga, I take it you have withdrawn your support for Whitmore over his failed Gold Cup performance! Not only failed, but it was miserable and yet, he still have over 96% support on this board.

GOOD LUCK TO BARNES!! Keep your head high boss! Don't let this be the end of your conquest to one day lead a decent team to success!
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#140853 - 09/29/09 12:44 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: reddevil]
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 Originally Posted By: reddevil
There you go jamatl, 3 hours on your thread and basically no support. What did Barnes do be hated? When I think of a forum full of "we don´t support our own" and self-hate threads when probably the majority of us are Jamaican born and raised and now living in other countries and don´t support Barnes because "he isn´t really one of us" it makes me laugh and it disappoints me at the same time. What are we saying about ourselves and the majority of us and a big part of the J´can economy? I think I know how to get support for Barnes....let me put a call in and have a Latino can harshly criticise if that don´t get the forumites riled up and supporting him....nothing will


The weird thing is; if I am not mistaken, almost 80% of the posters on this board are currently living overseas. Yet, many support a form of discrimination (foreign vs. local)... The same form of discrimination they will face if ever they return home to Jamaica.
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#140856 - 09/29/09 01:42 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: Big Mountain]
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Well JB´s boys managed to bag the 3 points. It´s a start.
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#140857 - 09/29/09 01:47 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: reddevil]
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Good and necessary win for Barnes and Tranmere....big up and best wishes.
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fyi, the game winning goal was scored by the Captain and former manager's son Ian Moore.

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#140863 - 09/29/09 02:28 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: Big Mountain]
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 Originally Posted By: Big Mountain
 Originally Posted By: Ric
 Originally Posted By: reddevil
 Originally Posted By: Jagga
It is really hard support failure. He needs to start getting some results to show that he knows what he is doing.


You can´t argue against the results Jagga. But if that´s the way you feel, why do you support the Reggaeboyz after 3 straight failed World Cup bids? Just a consistency question nothing more.


No intent to disrespect your request, which I totally agree with and support.

Where was the overwhelming support that you are calling for now when Barnes was 'pushed' out of the Jamaica job in which he was clearly successful ?


Actually, if you checked the archives you will find 1 or 2 threads filled with support, disgust and anger over that decision!


Those same archives will show my consistent opinion that to get rid of John Barnes when the JFF did was a diabolically bad 'football' decision and outside of the one or two posts that you have mentioned,most were supporting the decision for any other reasons than football.

I support Tappa because the failure on the football field at the GC was one of politics, not his failure as a coach given a team for political and not football reasons.

Barnes leading and Tappa assisting at the GC might have given us results to all feel happy about as the football indications were showing and Barnes heading off to what have not proven to be 'greener' pastures would still leave us with our 'feel good' factor.

Now we will never know.; big up both John Barnes and Tappa in their succesful careers as football managers/coaches ! \:D


Edited by Ric (09/29/09 02:31 PM)

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#140864 - 09/29/09 03:15 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: Ric]
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Good going Ric! Barnes bagged one today! \:\)
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#140866 - 09/29/09 03:41 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: Big Mountain]
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phew!!!
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#140868 - 09/29/09 04:17 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: jt]
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Well everybody know I partial to Coach Whitmore, so no need to discuss that.

Now as to the JB thing, I personally don't have much energy left after spending all of it on trying to not run di Boyz dem over wid mi civic, but as Walmart now have mi meds for $4 it mek it a little bit easier to continue supporting.

So, does this mean I have to support Carl Brown to? Since we not only supporting current and former Reggaeboyz but also ex-coaches? What about Laza and Rene and Oliveria (sp?) and Maxwell and...
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#140869 - 09/29/09 04:38 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: Princess]
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Ms. P,

No need to compare, contrast and politicize.....just some simple support for John Barnes and the Tranmere squad.

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#140870 - 09/29/09 04:41 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in UK [Re: reddevil]
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 Originally Posted By: reddevil
There you go jamatl, 3 hours on your thread and basically no support. What did Barnes do be hated? When I think of a forum full of "we don´t support our own" and self-hate threads when probably the majority of us are Jamaican born and raised and now living in other countries and don´t support Barnes because "he isn´t really one of us" it makes me laugh and it disappoints me at the same time. What are we saying about ourselves and the majority of us and a big part of the J´can economy? I think I know how to get support for Barnes....let me put a call in and have a Latino can harshly criticise if that don´t get the forumites riled up and supporting him....nothing will


Funny Reddevil. \:\) You lucky they don't start blaming JB's lackluster performance for the drop in tourism.

Let me put another perspective on things as I see it.

JB is a born Jacan, so I can't image anyone even contemplating that he is not one of them. Furthermore JB's father was a Colonel in the JDF willing to put his life on the line in defense of Jamaica so it is unimaginable to me that anyone knowing that could even think of JB as anything but 100% Jamaican. Sure there are Jacans who leave and distance themselves from the homeland, but even they are still 100% Jacans and don't need authentication from anyone. Those born outside I would grade on a scale based on their identification with the country, only because I would not want to impose a nationality on someone if they themself do not care for it.

Getting back to JB. You know how Jacans shamey-shamey. They feel embarrass when a Jacan fails on a world stage. What is going on with JB is not unique to him. The Boyz suffer the same fate when they are struggling, which is one of my biggest complaints. These same people who appear not to be supporting JB today would be clogging up the Tranmere's websites if Tranmere were undefeated and appear to be heading for promotion. Jacans do support Jacans, they just wait for them to be successful first, otherwise they just don't bother. If you nah succeed you on your own.

These are the same ites whose posts I read in disbelief at the thought of them accepting JB coaching their national team on a part-time basis.

JB originally was well received, maybe because most ites had the potential his football connections could reap for their individual pet projects dancing in their heads (they were planning on using him). When that didn't materialize to their satisfaction a thread was started questioning JB's worth to the programme and wondering if Tappa wasn't just as capable. Even that thread didn't come off as too negative towards JB IMHO.


Edited by pelepapa (09/29/09 04:55 PM)

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#140872 - 09/29/09 04:52 PM Re: Support for former nat'l team coach John Barnes in [Re: Ric]
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 Originally Posted By: Ric
 Originally Posted By: Big Mountain
 Originally Posted By: Ric
 Originally Posted By: reddevil
 Originally Posted By: Jagga
It is really hard support failure. He needs to start getting some results to show that he knows what he is doing.


You can´t argue against the results Jagga. But if that´s the way you feel, why do you support the Reggaeboyz after 3 straight failed World Cup bids? Just a consistency question nothing more.


No intent to disrespect your request, which I totally agree with and support.

Where was the overwhelming support that you are calling for now when Barnes was 'pushed' out of the Jamaica job in which he was clearly successful ?


Actually, if you checked the archives you will find 1 or 2 threads filled with support, disgust and anger over that decision!


Those same archives will show my consistent opinion that to get rid of John Barnes when the JFF did was a diabolically bad 'football' decision and outside of the one or two posts that you have mentioned,most were supporting the decision for any other reasons than football.

I support Tappa because the failure on the football field at the GC was one of politics, not his failure as a coach given a team for political and not football reasons.

Barnes leading and Tappa assisting at the GC might have given us results to all feel happy about as the football indications were showing and Barnes heading off to what have not proven to be 'greener' pastures would still leave us with our 'feel good' factor.

Now we will never know.; big up both John Barnes and Tappa in their succesful careers as football managers/coaches ! \:D

Ric I told you before that if JB had coached the Boyz in the GC and brought the players YOU thought he was going to bring (the locals) and finished anywhere except as champions he would've been a lot more villified than you perceive him to be currently.

From that point of view the JFF saved his behind.

Take a poll if you don't believe me.

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