Jt it is 35 degrees outside. I am having more fun drinking this Red Stripe than responding to you acting like a hard to please young lady.
Nutten nuh wrong Carter if you want to play hard to please. I always thought you were female anyway, not sure bout the lady bit. But girls do normally get hot and bothered and get excited with the heat. Nuh worri. Gwaan drink yu red stripe. I didn't really expect an answer from you anyway.
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Quite a few professionals, who due to their exceptional talent were offered scholarships to train at UWI for free.
Would you care to elaborate??
I thought anyone who went to UNIVERSITY bcoz of their sporting qualities went to get a degree to help them otherwise from the sport that gave them the scholarship??
I also thought scholarships were offered bcoz u could give back to the school/establishment.
How exactly are the footballers going to be helped by going to the UWI/JFF academy? And who is going to pay for it? And what are the reggeaboys going to give back to the UWI?
Is Jamaica going to be represented by the UWI football team instead of the reggeaboys??
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Thursday, September 02, 2010
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GOVERNMENT is forking out $36 million for the shelved Jamaica Football Federation (JFF) Academy in Malvern, St Elizabeth, which will be transformed into a "special" school for students with behavioural problems.
Information minister Daryl Vaz confirmed the sale figure for the three-acre property at yesterday's post-Cabinet press briefing at Jamaica House.
"This facility is neccesary to address problems of violence and other antisocial behaviours among students," said Vaz.
Last week, Education Minister Andrew Holness confirmed negotiations were underway with the JFF and offered that the special education facility would be opened by next January.
"We've identified a new property owned by the JFF, which they were to develop for training purposes, but will no longer be using, so we've engaged them in a purchase arrangement and Cabinet has approved this," Holness said.
The Malvern property, situated close to Munro College, was selected by the Crenston Boxhill-led JFF in 2005 to house a FIFA-financed training camp for local footballers.
But returning president Captain Horace Burrell tossed out the idea and placed the property for sale on the open market when he regained office in 2007.
While Government's $36 million is below the JFF's $45 million asking price, the injection of funds is timely for a cash-starved organisation which was forced to downsize its technical programmes and other critical areas of operations in order to stay afloat.
Burrell, in 2003, first broke ground for a Football Academy to be sited in Portmore, St Catherine, but was booted from office and the FIFA funds used by Boxhill to start construction on the Malvern property.
In January, the JFF broke ground for its Football Academy for the third time at the Mona Campus of the University of the West Indies (UWI), with the first phase of the project expected to be completed by September 30.
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Quite a few professionals, who due to their exceptional talent were offered scholarships to train at UWI for free.
Would you care to elaborate??
I thought anyone who went to UNIVERSITY bcoz of their sporting qualities went to get a degree to help them otherwise from the sport that gave them the scholarship??
I also thought scholarships were offered bcoz u could give back to the school/establishment.
How exactly are the footballers going to be helped by going to the UWI/JFF academy? And who is going to pay for it? And what are the reggeaboys going to give back to the UWI?
Is Jamaica going to be represented by the UWI football team instead of the reggeaboys??
jt, when I stated professionals that includes (doctors,lawyers,engineers,businessmen,nurses,dentists and educators and now even athletes)
Some athletes also remain in sports by study sports management, sports science and even sports psychology.....hmmmm
Well, a world famous athlete named Bolt who did not attend UWI but trained there, recently had a track donated in his name to the Unversity.....hmmmmm
Perhaps, some of our future professional footballers MIGHT do the same.
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ok, we should aim to build whatever is financially appropriate that allows the JFF to properly prepare our national teams to compete against teams such USA,Mexico,Canada,Costa Rica, Honduras, Trinidad, etc....
jt=madman- Not sure what he wants for our football. Basic common sense tells you need proper training facilities to develop your game to compete internationally. jt tell us what we need so we can beat the best.
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BY SEAN A WILLIAMS Assistant Sports Editor
Friday, September 03, 2010
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THE FIFA Goal Project underway on lands at the Mona Campus of the University of the West Indies (UWI) is being done at great "self-sacrifice" to the Jamaica Football Federation (JFF), suggested a top official.
The US$400,000 that was made available to erect Phase One of the project was actually money diverted from the annual FIFA subvention of US$250,000 which is paid to all member associations.
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"What this means is that the money for 2010 was debited from our accounts and instead paid directly to contractors Tank-Weld Limited," JFF president Captain Horace Burrell explained.
This was said to be a "special arrangement" with FIFA as the JFF's anxiety grew in getting their first Goal Project off the ground after two failed attempts to construct an academy/training centre.
Under Burrell's stewardship, ground was first broken in 2003 at a site in Portmore, St Catherine, but was later abandoned by the new Crenston Boxhill administration who deemed it unsuitable for a football academy.
The new JFF team then acquired a three-acre spread of land in the hilly interior community of Malvern in St Elizabeth and started construction of a dormitory-type facility after the FIFA Goal Bureau remitted the money to kick off the project.
Uncompleted and the funds exhausted, the work stalled. In 2007 when Burrell returned to the helm of the JFF for a second stint, he toured the facility with FIFA vice-president Austin 'Jack' Warner, with the latter expressing "grave disappointment" with the location of the site and the state of the development.
Warner's intervention led to FIFA ordering that the project be discontinued and that the property -- with three incomplete main buildings -- be sold.
The Malvern property was put on the open market in early 2008 at an asking price of J$45 million, but it proved a hard sell until Government last week announced it had purchased it for the Ministry of Education to be used as a "special school" for problematic students.
"We were instructed by FIFA to dispose of it before the UWI project could start, but we were able to work something out with FIFA," Burrell said.
The FIFA subvention of US$250,000 (about $22 million) is crucial to the operations of a cash-strapped and heavily-indebted JFF said to be in the red of about $100 million, but the local football body decided to make the sacrifice as they are in a desperate bid to make up ground on a number of other small footballing nations who are on their second and third Goal Project.
Set to be completed by September 30 after work started in April, Phase One of the six-acre UWI project will include a "first-class" training field, changing room facilities for players, referees' quarters, equipment room and temporary security fencing.
At the completion of Phase One, Burrell said his administration will immediately apply for Phase Two, which is expected to have an additional floor to the existing structure. This will house an office for the technical staff, a presentation room, a kitchenette and a second playing field.
And as the development continues with the aim of having a total technical training centre similar to what obtains in big football-playing nations, the JFF plans to apply for Phase Three, which will have a perimeter wall and floodlights. Phase Four, which is expected to follow closely, will consist of dormitories.
"The FIFA works hand in hand with the national associations, so once you complete one phase they're ready to assist with another...
"They will not approve another phase until the previous one is completed and we intend to keep rolling, having been beset by problems in the past," Burrell explained.
jt=madman- Not sure what he wants for our football. Basic common sense tells you need proper training facilities to develop your game to compete internationally. jt tell us what we need so we can beat the best.
Sticks and stones Carter.. I have made much more attempt than u, and on numerous ocasions at what will improve Jamaican Football.
So are you now admitting that U nor Burrell possessed basic common sense? Are you gus just realising that to develop your game a football team will need proper training facilities let alone to compete internationally.
So are u saying Jamaica cannot compete bcoz they dont have this facility at UWI??
And whilst you ponder a response, allow me to remind you that Jamaica had already qualified for a world cup long b4 wi hooked up with UWI. Jamaica has won the Carribean Champs and done well in even the Concacaf Gold Cup?
There was no problem with training then it seems. Are you saying the reggeaboys are not being trained properly??
I would just like to know how an irrigated field with buildings for the referee's to change will help with training the reggeaboys??
As it stands phase one of this project is only the first stage of creating a mini stadium. By phase four we will realise it is merely a hotel/ dormitory to host national teams for preparation to tournaments. And also create funds with the mini stadium.
Brainbox carter. How exactly did the Reggeaboyz cope b4 phase one of the UWI, Fifa goal project??
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JT, please don't think I'm taking sides because I'm not. But I've been following this back and forth between yourself and Carter and I can't say that I know for sure what your position is.
At least Carter has expressed the opinion that he believes the JFF/UWI project would be beneficial to us.
You may not realize it, but you're making Carter look better and better as the discussion progresses. Is that your intent?
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Yes Jamatl. Do your part for the propaganda effort. Repeating the same info in the media constantly will soon brainwash someone.
So was the direct payment to Tank Weld surity for Fifa that the third set of money would not go AWOL?? Or was it a way of the JFF to provide accountability to the fans ?
When was Warner's visit to Malvern upgraded to surveyor of site?? And how is it that an outsider allbeit Jack Warner, the concacaf fifa rep can unilaterally condemn a project and why??
What was wrong with malvern?
Here's a point for you brainbox Carter. Two men decide to build a facility for football. One builds in a remote place starting with dormitories. The other starts on a campus but starts with changing rooms and referee and equipment with securit fencing within a secured environment. Which one is more geared to being an academy?? Which man had more of an intention to create an academy
does anyone remember how much Malvern was bought for?? It's unfortunate the JFF staff reporter forgot to give us that information.
I cannot wait until phase five. Maybe someone will remember to place a gym somewhere. And possibly a medical quarters. But mostly some Classrooms. Mi nuh know how yu can have academy without classrooms.
No doubt when we get to phase six, burrell would have added one of his restaurants and grill. Helicopter pad and an office alongside the press room.
But lets give more thought to phase two. Regardless if Burrell intends to build a mini stadium/ hotel and football tournament preparation house cause lets keep it real, this is just Shoreditch moved to Mona what is the point of having a kitchenette?? Wouldn't a proper dining area/presentation hall for big groups plus a proper big kitchen. Footballer's want to eat a big food these days.
Regardless if Burrell has a clue what he is doing, building a concept that allows the JFF to rent out rooms for other establishments to have meetings or conferences. A concept that allows use of the classrooms when not in use. A concept that also helps medical staff, sport administartors, trainee referee's and coaches alike. A concept that allows for the inclusion of the obrians of Jamaica and keeps track of them.
A concept that invites the best of the Manning/Dacosta Cup hopefuls for summer camp or even primary school kids.
Carter, Ah wha yu really now bout football other than two teams kicking a ball?? Jamatl. Stop spread propoganda pon the dread bout him have forty leg ina him head. Gwaan guh duh yu own research of what a football academy is about and what you think the Jamaican people expect from Sir Burrell. Dont you think the Jamaican people deserve more.
And nuh bada feel say mi rate Boxhill either but at least he was genuine about building an academy.
Some of unuh forget unuh used to play ball when ou were younger.
Here we are talking about an Academy and some man are happy Burrell has concentrated the first phase on referee's quarters, changing rooms and perimeter fence.
Any reggeaboy going up to mona fi use the training facility must know before hand. Wha, dem cant wear the shorts underneat dem skirt... Ah wha dis?? A fashion house we ah run or academy??
Please, someone just put Senor burrell out of his misery and suggest we call it the Horace Burrell Stadium. Coz this is more about legacy and portfolio rather than football development.
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stop bait up Carter, carver. Mind yu mek him guh chat more rubbish.
As I said b4 Carver. Sligoville Chinese Stadium, Trelawny Stadium. The National Stadium at Mountain View, Sabina park, and even this project at UWI will always be good for Sport. Jamaican Sports does need infrastructure.
But come on. If yu ah bring ah car just bring it. Stop tell wi bout mercedes benz when its actually a smart car. (smart car is a car built by Mercedes that seats two people and no boot space and is the same length as a motor bike.) Why the hype??
This is just another football field with the addition of accommodation to house everyone whilst preparing for tournaments/games. It will never be an academy. Burrell, Carter and Jamatl's attempt to attach themselves with this JFF/UWI Fifa sanctioned academy project is just another smoke screen.
If I am building something great then I will have no need to make it sound sweeter by showing that others did badly. What would burrell have built in Portmore. What was so wrong with Malvern.
Could we not argue that Burrell messed up with the Portmore fiasco. But alas Burrell cover's himself in glory again making out like Boxhill messed up his plans. kissteet.
Then u have the puppets coming on the forum trying fi sell wi insurance policy and timeshare.
It is just too easy and too simple to shout out non supporter or hater or anti burrelist. Rubbish that. Gold will always be gold. platinum will always be platinum. u nuh haffi try hard fi sell something good. everyone will buy it.
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Ok, JT, so you do like the idea of the academy, you just don't like how they're going about it; like building a kitchenette instead of a full blown kitchen with dining area and so on and so forth.
Well, the "FIFA Goal Bureau" reps were in Jamaica recently to inspect the project and they were reportedly satisfied with things so far. Are you saying that you'd do a better job of building the academy than these presumed experts?
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jt- Even if this project turn out to be a training centre we still cannot complain because the national teams have nowhere concrete to train and live during preparations for games. Just having a training facility for our players will show some structure for our football and eventually improve aspects of our game. We all know to host players year round is going to cost money and that is where a sponsor comes in. It is a win regardless. Hopefully you will watch a game for once and stop the bad vibes on the forum.
So me watching a game affects building the academy how??
And again you are talking crap. The National teams have always had training facilities. That is why the always meet up b4 games. they have alwas had somewhere to stay. And regardless of the quality of those facilities they managed to get to the WC in 98.
So making an issue that somehow with these new facilities it will get us better prepared is rubbish. we have done it before hence we should be able to do it again with the same equipment.
The equipment and facilities are the only thing that has remained constant. It's the personnel that has not remmained constant and as such I suggest that is wh Jamaica has not made it back to the WC.
Now if Burrell did use the WC98 money and invest in infrastructure instead of New Offices for himself then I would have at least have nuff respect but to wait 12 years later and then suddenly make out like he has found the cure.
Teams like Japan were on the same level as Jamaica in 98. Compare now.
For Carter and Jamatl to talk like the JFF/UWI project will suddenly project us forward to success... PLEASE. SUCCESS is made of sterner stuff.
But just to correct you carver, I am not in favour of this psuedo Academy. But yes I am and have always been in favour of an academy.
And yes Carver. I am saying I would have done a better job than the fifa delegates and Burrell. They are not experts on academies. They just want to make sure the project is good and the money accounted for and spent wisely.
Not all Fifa Goal projects are academies.. As long as the project is connected to Football and you and the delegates are on the same page everything curry.
Fifa didn't even know they owned an office in New Kgn. till Boxhill try sell it. TFifa probably dont even know the intracacies of the UWI/JFF connection.. An academy on the cheap.
Me woulda do it pon the cheap to... Yes we can play down the importance of canteen instead of kitchenette. But that academy could have generated money for the JFF. To do so, it possibly would/ could accommodate more than 10 teams in one go.. Kitchenette cant feed and accommodate staff and one team properly. It look like Jamaican's only think big when it come to their house and bank balance.
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FIFA president Joseph 'Sepp' Blatter will visit Jamaica on Sunday to inaugurate the new JFF Technical Centre sited at the University of the West Indies, Mona.
The confirmed visit of football's most powerful man ends months of speculation whether or not the Swiss native would be on hand to officially commission the facility into operation.