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#139270 - 09/07/09 09:51 AM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 20 [Re: jt]
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How do you tie the article to Burrell? Your comment does not make sense. I would think this facility is badly needed for Utech/MVP athletes and sport teams.

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#139271 - 09/07/09 10:43 AM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 20 [Re: CARTER]
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atleast it is good to see that they are upgrading the facilities but I am not sure if this will make much of a change... it's the coaches and referees that need it most
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#139275 - 09/07/09 11:48 AM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 20 [Re: Metropolis FC]
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metropolis,

Jamaica football definately needs better facilities throughtout the island.

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#139276 - 09/07/09 11:49 AM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 20 [Re: jamatl]
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I think if UTech get a campus in Western Jamaica, it will indirectly boast football.
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#139277 - 09/07/09 11:50 AM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 20 [Re: jamatl]
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But our main focus is the contruction and maintain of the JFF/UWI academy.
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#139295 - 09/07/09 04:52 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: jamatl]
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with the FIFA Goal Project funds, he should be able to get the uwi/jff academy up and running by September 2010. This should allow the class of 2011 u20 footballers to start training there. Then we can look forward to maybe some u17 in September 2011 and then some u23 joining in January 2012.


I say Marvin Taite for TD

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#139296 - 09/07/09 05:15 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: Noel2000]
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barnes was doing work as td and I hope we have the sense to sign him as our olympic coach... tappa already has his work cut out for 2014, so it makes barnes the clear cut favorite

but better facilities with a more motivated barnes, hello 2012 london olympics... usf and rutgers are doing their part to supply us with skilled players then throw in a few locals and we might challenge mexico for that second concacaf qualifying spot
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#139309 - 09/07/09 09:32 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: Metropolis FC]
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Based on reports from my cousin at UWI, the UWI Bowl is a good quality field and stadium for August Town with excellent facilities and well maintained by the university.
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#139311 - 09/07/09 10:10 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 20 [Re: jamatl]
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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
Based on reports from my cousin at UWI, the UWI Bowl is a good quality field and stadium for August Town with excellent facilities and well maintained by the university.


So you neva hear when mi tell you seh things were already in place and whatever grandiose plans burrell was talking about should be taken with a grain of salt as alot of work had already gone into the development of the facilities on campus as part of the institutions development plan.

Some man jus nah listen iyah.

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#139312 - 09/08/09 12:42 AM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: Metropolis FC]
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Yes Carter.. I will explain myself. But allow me to remind you of the article.

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The proposed UTech facilities in Caymanas, to occupy a total 29 hectares or 79 acres, will include buildings for a faculty of sports featuring four large lecture rooms with capacity for 50 persons, a lecture theatre with capacity for 300 persons, office space for 20 administrative staff and 18 coaches, and a boarding facility with rooms for 200.

Lecture and boarding facilities will adjoin a multi-purpose sports complex including swimming and diving pools, tennis courts, football fields, running tracks, cricket fields, hockey fields, indoor squash courts, netball courts, basketball courts, volleyball courts, and a multi-purpose building for indoor sports, which will facilitate all indoor sports and include six badminton courts, table tennis, martial arts, two boxing rings and seating for 1,500 persons.

Tennis courts will include two practice courts, two game courts, and four designated for competitions, with seating for 500 persons.

The football fields will include one match field and two practice fields, with seating for 2,000 persons.

Four hundred metres of running tracks in the mega sports complex will feature an all-weather track, two grass tracks and seating for 1,000 persons.

Cricket fields will also have seating for 1,000, hockey for 500 spectators, and two indoor courts.

The indoor squash courts are planned to include two practice courts, two competition courts and two courts for doubles. Seating will be provided for 500.

Netball courts should feature two practice courts, three basketball courts and four indoor-competition courts.

The mega sports complex is also planned to include a medical facility offering physiotherapy, dental, orthopaedic and optical care.

General facilities for the mega complex will include changing rooms, storage security and a maintenance workshop for electrical, mechanical, carpentry, welding, changing rooms, rollers for the cricket pitch and rooms for administrative staff, plus parking for 2,000 vehicles.

The complex will serve for training, sports events


This complex it seems is proposed to be bigger than the UWI plan.

Both the UWI and Utech have the exact same idea. They have recognised that sport is not just recreation anymore. It is a business and a big industry. Just as music did the same.

When Shatta used to talk we ran him off the forum. Have we not realised that what is happening is what he has been saying.

UWI and Utech recognising this industry plans to invest and provide courses and opportunities for another generation. Afterall could these two establishments consider themselves serious educational facilities if they dont have the foresight to see what the future holds.

U continually try to put everything in a box. What in the article I posted suggests that Utech is for MVP?? Both establishments have plans to improve or build facilities for more than one sport. Which makes them sport centres. Not football academies or Athletics HQ's.

Therefore Burrell could have quite easily have linked himself to the Utech project if it was already approved by the government.

But more to the point the story or article should dispel the sort of talk you and jamatl keep dropping....
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But our main focus is the contruction and maintain of the JFF/UWI academy.


JFF/UWI academy??? fallacy. UWI is constructing a sports center of excellence. UWI will be maintaining. JFF is just putting monies towards it mostly fi mek some of us think the JFF is active. In the same way how the JFF is just a cheque holder now. Money passes by them now and they dont reall get to touch it. (Fifa to constructor) or (sponsor to seaga and league)

And now we have man telling us our focus should be on the UWI project as if this will bring the improvements and development we need??!!

We are getting all these certified coaches, but what of the promise to help Tappa... Maybe we should put some focus on that instaed of crying over Barnes.

Talking about focus, maybe each of us should write out where the JFF is now and where do we wish it to be two or four years from now. (the same way we plan our futures) and hold the JFF to account and stop this madness of false hope.

the focus should be on the JFF and their ability to move Jamaican Football forward.

Their is no excuse for Jamaican Football to be in debt. The worlds eyes without bauxhite and sugar cane are on Jamaica now. We now have a new product. Athleticism and sports. But with the visionless that lead, the greedy that stand in the way and the parasites that pray on every bit of Jamaican success the few that can excel thru this industry may never make it.

The facilities are much needed but aint it time we start learning that improving the facilities at home is just a step and not the only step necessary. Improving homes in the ghetto and not developing the minds and skills of the people in the area just makes it a ghetto with improved homes. Dem soon mash up again.
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#139327 - 09/08/09 09:57 AM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: jt]
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JT,

Agree with you, but it is a STEP towards progress. It will solve anything immedately but small positive steps.

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#139374 - 09/08/09 06:51 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: jamatl]
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JT you still naw mek bc sense- we need the infrasture in place then you can develop and educate the minds in the right environment.It does not matter if the JFF is a part of it, these projects will be serving Jamaica anyway. These facilties are long overdue if we want to get better or maintain our edge in sports. The university needs it if they are to start bringing in student athletes from around the globe. Rejoice our youths are finally getting top class training facility and stop hating. Look at the positve and stop worrying about dumpling thief Burrell.

Edited by CARTER (09/08/09 07:02 PM)

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#139425 - 09/09/09 03:33 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: CARTER]
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Maybe I am not making sense bcoz u yourself are confused about a few things.

It has been a long time come, some infrastructure, but when it was first highlighted that infrastructure was a necessity all were told to go jump in the sea by your hero Mr. Burrell.

Of course it does not matter if the JFF is a part of both Sports Academies. But if the JFF are going to be involved they need to come correct.

Jamaica made it to the world cup without infrastructure. Therefore the same should be possible to achieve again. Having infrastructure should enhaunce the process not become the process. Therefore Burrell and the JFF should not be bragging about a football academy as if they are helping football development.

As I said before the JFF and Mr. Burrell need to present a phylosophy/plan geared towards Jamaican football development and maybe the fans and public would come on board the wagon without persuasion. But why am I preaching to the converted. Here is your quote:
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These facilties are long overdue if we want to get better or maintain our edge in sports.


Now gwaan guh tell burrell. Yu shoulda did tell him dat from 1998 after the WC.

The positives will be actual results carter. Not infrastructure. 11 ears has passed since we were at the world cup. We have wasted 11 years. I am not worried about Burrell. I want him to move on and give someone else a chance.
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#139551 - 09/10/09 07:23 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: jt]
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JT go jump inna sea. Where were you when Blatter and Burrell broke land in Portmore for the academy and Boxjuice derailed it with is empty grassroot promises and moved everything to the Munro hills? If we do not need the infrasture for football you can say we do not need classrooms to educate people also.

Edited by CARTER (09/10/09 07:25 PM)

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#147332 - 01/07/10 07:32 AM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: CARTER]
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JFF scores Goal

BY IAN BURNETT Sport Editor

Thursday, January 07, 2010

THE FIFA Goal Bureau yesterday granted permission to the Jamaica Football Federation (JFF) for its contractor, Tank-Weld Group, to commence construction of the FIFA Goal Project on the campus of the University of the West Indies (UWI), Mona.

Construction is scheduled to begin in two weeks (Thursday, January 21), following final approval from Kingston Mayor Desmond McKenzie, which, according to JFF president Captain Horace Burrell, is expected early next week.

“I received, a few hours ago, written correspondence from the FIFA Goal Bureau in Zurich approving our Goal Project to be situated at our new location on the UWI Mona Campus. This is going to be our technical centre,” beamed Captain Burrell in an exclusive interview with the Observer last evening.

"I am heartened by this news and if this is an indication of how this year is going to be for football, then certainly I am overjoyed, because as you all know, there is no doubt in anybody’s mind that this year is going to be tough, and the fact that we are able to receive this confirmation is certainly good news thus far,” added the JFF boss, who first broke ground in Portmore, St Catherine, for the construction of the Goal Project/National Football Academy more than six years ago.

Phase One of the Goal Project will include two full-sized training fields with proper underground irrigation systems; perimeter fencing, the construction of rest rooms and changing facilities, as well as facilities for technical staff.

Tank-Weld Group won the tender from a group of three in the final stages, and Burrell has no doubts that they will get the job done on time. They are expected to provide the expertise to develop the training fields.

“The contractor is the well established company Tank-Weld Group, which we have every confidence that they will complete this project on time,” he said, adding: “Tank-Weld Group’s reputation precedes them, they are a highly professional company, so I am satisfied that the process was followed and the best contractor has been selected for the job.”

He added: “I want to express thanks to the six-member Goal Project Committee headed by former JDF chief of staff, General John Simmonds, Carvel Stewart, Leighton McKnight, Howard McIntosh, Saleem Lazarus and Rev Calvin Baker, which has worked tirelessly to see this through.”

The JFF boss also paid tribute to UWI head professor Gordon Shirley and his technical and engineering staff, which made the six-and-a-half acres available to the JFF.

“The UWI is developing a major sporting facility and this is a part of it,” noted Captain Burrell.

The grant from the FIFA Goal Bureau is US$400,000, which will be paid over directly to the contractor, and completion of the project is expected by the end of August.

Following its completion, FIFA and CONCACAF presidents Joseph ‘Sepp’ Blatter and Austin ‘Jack’ Warner, respectively, will be invited to the inauguration ceremony sometime in September.

But a livid Captain Burrell lashed out at the former Crenston Boxhill-led administration, which moved the site from Portmore to Malvern in St Elizabeth, after deeming the location unsuitable for a training centre.

That incomplete facility was later termed a “tragedy” by regional boss Warner when he viewed the facilities in 2007, prompting the JFF to seek permission from the FIFA to relocate to the UWI.

“Right now we are at the back of the line because of the tremendous bungling which took place during the former administration,” bemoaned Burrell.

“Right now this administration is committed to moving ahead rapidly to catch up with the rest of the world, many of whom have two or three Goal Projects,” claimed the JFF boss.

Now Burrell plans to apply for Goal Project Two immediately after the completion of the first phase, as no National Association can be considered for additional projects until the preceding ones have been successfully completed.

“Most countries have got two and three projects, so having spoken to FIFA, I am confident that we will obtain Goal Projects Two and Three,” he assured, adding that his administration has already done up all the drawings for phases two and three.

Goal Projects Two and Three will comprise dorms, gyms, physiotherapy facilities and parking lots.

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#147344 - 01/07/10 08:50 AM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: jamatl]
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Time for Burrell to move on and stop bringing up Boxhill.
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#147365 - 01/07/10 02:51 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: Technic]
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Well said.

The CIFA president, Jeffrey Webb will almost certainly be a guest at that opening ceremony as well.

Cayman, as a purely amateur country, already has the 5 star fields that FIFA mandates for their GOAL projects and that makes them the top facility for grounds in the CFU.

The relationship between Jamaica and Cayman is firm at FIFA level, though most Jamaican football professionals are unaware of that; the top clubs in Jamaica all played and had relationships back in the 80s and 90s when Cayman was competitive at club level and those relationships still exist.

We should see more interaction with Jamaica using Cayman's facilities along with the new Academy in the future if Burrell plays his cards the way I think he might.

Warner, Burrell and Webb runs FIFA's business for Blatter; I hope we can see the technical development and advancement on the pitch.

I can't wait to see the potential Jamaica side that's out there on the pitch rolling ball again.

Time for the real REGGAEBOYZ to come again !

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#147368 - 01/07/10 03:02 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: Ric]
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That it is very interesting, since today on KLAS, Burrell stated that our facilities will not include artifical turf fields but I think Cayman has two(2). So, if we can share national team facilities with Cayman, it would be beneficial to the CFU mafia.
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#147371 - 01/07/10 03:54 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: jamatl]
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That it is very interesting, since today on KLAS, Burrell stated that our facilities will not include artifical turf fields but I think Cayman has two(2). So, if we can sure national team facilities with Cayman, it would be beneficial to the CFU mafia.


I've only approached this from the technical and FIFA system for financial investment for GOAL facilities side of things, mate.

FIFA' investment in GOAL projects call for some percentage of facilities to have training and match pitches of FIFA grades 1 - 5 and unfortunately, the top level grade 5 pitches are of the surface we don't like but the real non-grass pitch is far advanced technology-wise to what we used to know as Astroturf.

If Jamaica's facility will not have Grade 5 pitches, then logically, Burrell will use Cayman'spitches when required or beneficial; its the system thats in place now worldwide; Jamaica is late in catching up.

They might be the 'football mafia' I agree, but they're our 'mafia' now and they still have to deal with the club sytstem in our respective countries; I don't see where the CFU associations have any monopoly on football because we're like any other footballing countries.

The football in all countries in FIFA is played by and within the clubs; leagues still hold the power in football.

If the top football clubs in Jamaica and Trinidad play this right, that balance will tip even more in the real football professionals favour; its no different in Ja and Trini just because them man so powerful in FIFA.

Let them work for us; when the clubs in CFU become as powerful and as good as they were in the 80s and 90s, we'll see real improvement again.

Defence Force- trini

Robin Hood-Surinam

Seba United-Jamaica

Violette-Haiti

Harbour View-Jamaica

Portmore-Jamaica

Joe Public-Trini


These clubs have their work cut out for them to take advantage of the CFU 'mafia' in FIFA cause is there the football must play.


The clubs have their job to do; time they start to work again


Edited by Ric (01/07/10 04:13 PM)

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#151456 - 03/16/10 05:19 PM Re: Challenge to Burrell, Get Academy running Sept. 2010.. [Re: Ric]
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Any updates????

Captain a wha gwan wid dis????? stop tief FIFA money!!!!

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