Registered: 03/25/01
Posts: 15629
Loc: Miramar, FL, USA
Offline
Karl,
Thank you for the assistance......It will interesting to see the developments and fees for the mini-stadium use. Also will hold 3000 or up to 8,000 because another FIFA venue is needed on the island.
Some of those photos posted are outdated they show from 2006. Its 2009, the field parallel to the pool has undergone some development, more importantly the field parallel to the tennis court has been significantly improved and is one of the top facilities in KSAFA and is where august town currently plays their games, which is already a mini stadium.
If its just a case of improvements and additions to the current infrastructure of the campus so as to add these programs with the aim of sports development then I do not see much of a hindrance or delay in the implementation of the uwi plan/center of excellence.Such a plan can be incorporated without too much delay as UWI has been noted for their record of finishing development plans on schedule. Believe me rarely do you see such attention to project deadlines involving construction companies in jamaica. that's depending on who will be organizing the bidding/ construction/ implementation aspect of the project, because if the JFF are the ones who will decide who the contractors are then i wouldn't hold out too much hope.
My question is why build a facility in the middle of nowhere and now have no intention of using it? all they did was waste the grant that fifa gave us in the first place.
Well it seems I got it wrong. Jamatl was correct about blueprints in 2008, but with Fifa only giving $400,000 for a phase of the project that is estimated to cost 2.5mil. and overhaul a 12.5mil cost with the UWI contributing the rest.
Is this going to be the JFF Football Academy or the UWI Sports Centre of Excellence.
Maybe I am far from understanding the idea Jamatl but I cant see how this Centre of Excellence compares to Cuba and Costa Rica.
The UWI is as it suggests, the University of the West Indies. The Centre of Excellence would want to attract the best scholars from around the world. The UWI dont build bcoz they want to teach. They build bcoz they can charge and make money from teaching. Plus they have to make back the monies they are using to build.
It cannot possibly be a residential setting for the JFF unless they build separate dorms for JFF purposes only, therefore this can only amount to a training facility with sleepover potential. Maybe my metal shipping container idea may come in useful now.
_________________________
They make the world so hard
Registered: 03/25/01
Posts: 15629
Loc: Miramar, FL, USA
Offline
Fan4life,
This was my exact thoughts with August Town's promotion back to the DPL, they should have a high quality stadium for their matches.
This is the politrickal part, appease KSAFA, so they will not create any direct competition/issues for sponsorship or the Presidents position. The money part is now the UWI can offer a world recognized sports degree working with top level athletes and as another ite stated UWI does not joke around.
Part of the FIFA is to construct living facilities for specifically for the JFF use. I will be in the area in October for should have more information. I have seen the facility in Costa Rica, Brazil, USA and Belgium and they all have educational faciliities closeby which allows for student/player exchanges.
What if the captin seeing the delicate financial straits the JFF is in he would get a nod head from zurich and divert some or if things get worse, all of the academy funds, to shore up and stabilize the corporation and let the academy freeze some more and then return next year or 2011 and get more funds, again
of course the press release would blame it on the contractor or any fitting scapegoat heh heh
_________________________
One possible reason why things are not going according to plans is there never was a plan
Registered: 03/25/01
Posts: 15629
Loc: Miramar, FL, USA
Offline
I think the Captain realizes that since 2010 is an election year for JFF, he must get at least one tangible objective completed.
He invested in the senior team, nothing. He invested in the u20 team, nothing. So he along with the technical staff have finally realized that several of our senior and youth national team players and coaches are lacking technical completeness, which is hindering the progress of the national teams. The coaches and players are both foreign and local based, so focused effort is need because a miracle will not happen overnight.
Jt you such an idiot with nothing positive to contribute. The project is a combined effort between the JFF and UWI. The FIFA funds will resurface the fields and build the housing and as fanlife mentioned there are certain things in place already. Please tell us what an academy is? Wether it is 100% owned by the JFF or not it does not matter because Jamaica need that development for our young players. This is not about pleasing you boss.The PLAYERS are getting a modern facilty where they can learn football and get an education. You cannot see that.
I think the Captain realizes that since 2010 is an election year for JFF, he must get at least one tangible objective completed.
He invested in the senior team, nothing. He invested in the u20 team, nothing. So he along with the technical have finally realized that several of our senior and youth national team players and coaches are lacking technical completeness, which is hindering the progress of the national teams. The coaches and players are both foreign and local based, so focused effort is need because a miracle will not happen overnight.
He invested in the senior and u20 teams? Really? It's more like he has some making up to do after making decisions that led to the failure of both teams.
The only thing Burrell realized is that some of us have disclosed his M.O. of trying to appease the fans by announcing a friendly everytime he messes up so he came up with another gimmick. Someone told him that the academy is becoming a topic of conversation on the forums so he tries to get out in front of it. Just another gimmick.
It is my opinion that this academy is a wrong idea anyway. The academy should come after certain things are in place, not before. I don't see anything in place to justify building an academy at this time. If this academy is real it is going to become an albatross around the neck of the JFF due to fans illogical expectations. Illogical expectation is probably the biggest reason why the programme has being in the wilderness since 1998.
If the JFF can't afford the current system how are they going to magically afford a system that includes room, board, continuous training and possibly education for a bunch of youngsters from which you will be lucky to yield a special player in a decade? Where is the funds coming from? and what is the real purpose?
The JFF comes in like a guy who is pressured by his woman (the fans)into leasing an expensive V12 Benz but she failed to factor in the insurance and gas requirements that comes with such a car. The guy might be aware on the expenses, but in an attempt to please his woman he relents. When the car ends up sitting in the driveway she turns around and nags him everyday because she can't understand why he won't take her for a spin in the new ride. He might even lose her over it. In trying to appease the fans Burrell might end up losing what he appears to cherish most.
What if the captin seeing the delicate financial straits the JFF is in he would get a nod head from zurich and divert some or if things get worse, all of the academy funds, to shore up and stabilize the corporation and let the academy freeze some more and then return next year or 2011 and get more funds, again
of course the press release would blame it on the contractor or any fitting scapegoat heh heh
That is the only thing that makes sense to me and that's exactly what I would do with the funds.
The only problem is I don't trust Burrell to spend it on shoring up anything but his image. That appears to be his only motivation as far as the reggaeboyz are concern.
Remember seh he has an image boosting tour of South Africa to pay for.
Pelapopo is the next ass on this thread. I thought you were Costa Rican. The money will be paid directly to the contractor so Burrell has no access and we will finally have that academy.The next step would be to get sponsorship of all sorts. Pele- I always wonder why you try to plant negativity on the reggae boyz forum?
People you of to creep before you can walk.
Coaches are getting certified. Referees are getting trained. Academy is in the pipelne.
All this can only be good for the longrun regardless of who is incharge.
Pelapopo is the next ass on this thread. I thought you were Costa Rican. The money will be paid directly to the contractor so Burrell has no access and we will finally have that academy.The next step would be to get sponsorship of all sorts. Pele- I always wonder why you try to plant negativity on the reggae boyz forum?
People you of to creep before you can walk.
Coaches are getting certified. Referees are getting trained. Academy is in the pipelne.
All this can only be good for the longrun regardless of who is incharge.
What do you mean by I am the next ass on this thread you thought I was CRican?
So wah CRicans can't be asses too?
Mi no even mention nuttin bout the FIFA money. Even though I can make it interesting by asking you who are the contractor. Paid directly to contractors can mean many things, but that's not even an issue.
Sponsorship of all sorts ah? Build it and they will come ah?
What exactly are these sponsors sponsoring again? Youth training sessions?
Coaches are getting certified. Referees are getting trained. Academy is in the pipelne.
All this can only be good for the longrun regardless of who is incharge.
But you ah advocate walking before you creep.
You affi build an academy around a foundation, an academy cannot be the foundation around which you build. Especially with people talking about housing and training kids.
Where do you go from there once you build the academy?
What many people are advocating the academy should be used for is not feasible with the JFF financial situation and Burrell should know that.
Burrell should also know his people better than I do and if he does he should know that the thing better set right before he even breaks ground on this academy because one thing I noticed about Jacans is that they are not easily satisfied once they envision success and the demands will start poring in to use the academy for everything under the sun without any consideration for cost, affordability or even logic. Every success is an opportunity for more demands to Jamaicans. How many Jacans were a little disappointed that Bolt didn't break another record in his latest race?
That was my point about the albatross. He might think he is getting a reprieve by throwing up an academy but his biggest headache might come after it is completed.
I don't know why Burrell thought he lost the presidency previously, but he sure came back with the intention not to let it happen to him again.
I guess he realized that real leadership is hazardous to longevity and legacy building in Jamaica. It is quite apparent the man is running his office based on the whims of the fans.
Pelepapa you still did not convince we dont need a top tier facilty to house and train our top prospect for the future. What is the other option to getting our best players playing together on quality surfaces and getting an education.
What is it with the negativity when there is progress?
This is not about Burrell this about the kids who want a career in football. Did you know once the facility is in place then it is easier to go and seek a partnership with a top European club or seek local sponsorship in the form of food supplies etc.
is this a residency program or a day training camp sort of thing
is this going to be more like a general caribbean academy or more of a jff academy
the negativity comes from the fact that a residency program is only good for 13 - 17 year olds because it is preparing them for the pro life... then once they hit 17 the goal of residency changes to move them to a pro team like Arsenal or Inter or Parma or West Ham's u16 academy... a day training camp sort of place can't do that as effectively
_________________________
Vegas will always be Vegas. That won’t change. Las Vegas will be the market of markets for MLS.
Pelepapa you still did not convince we dont need a top tier facilty to house and train our top prospect for the future. What is the other option to getting our best players playing together on quality surfaces and getting an education.
What is it with the negativity when there is progress?
Remenber the old proverbs. "Not everything that glitters is gold".
If you pull the emotional string pon mi how can I say the kids don't deserve the best. That would be very callous of me wouldn't it? If you want to have a serious conversation then leave the emotion comments on the sideline. How can I not want the best for the kids? If it is up to me each kid, not just the talented ones, would have their own little academy in their backyard staffed with the best equipments and tutors.
But if you look at it from the point of view that the academy is a tool for the betterment of Jamaican football then it doesn't make much sense at this point. There are many more things that need to be done before an academy becomes necessary. I would divert the money if I could to ensure those things are in place. With the right things in place an academy is not even necessary, but without the right things in place an academy for academy sake becomes useless.
An academy should compliment a system, it should not be the system.
You didn't answer my question...What exactly would these expected sponsors be sponsoring?
Did Burrell provide a blueprint how he intends to fund the operation of the academy?
With a currently broke JFF is FIFA going to be providing operational funds for the academy as well? If so, then full speed ahead and Burrell for another term.
