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#124829 - 03/07/09 06:40 AM
JamaicaU20s v. El Salvador U20s
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jamatl
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We definately need to play for a win in this match. Based on the Jamaica Observer report, it appear that Sappleton was a bit fatigued and lacked match fitness. It was not surprising after watching him last week.
Mental toughness and team unity is needed.
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#124831 - 03/07/09 07:06 AM
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We definately need to play for a win in this match. Based on the Jamaica Observer report, it appear that Sappleton was a bit fatigued and lacked match fitness. It was not surprising after watching him last week.
Mental toughness and team unity is needed.
So why did they start Him over Adlam. Why not start Adlam and bring Sappleton off the Bench. Is a partially fit Sappleton better than a fully fit Adlam???
dem have to go fo broke now against Salvador. I say Start Davian Thorpe in the Middle and then push J R Doyley or Shelton up front with Adlam and Orgil bring on Sappleton last 25-30 min.
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#124832 - 03/07/09 08:01 AM
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maybe we could play with 3 attackers or put adlam on a wing
but what dismantled us against the us was not pace man for man, but the actual speed of play... now that we were exposed to it, we'll be better for slower teams
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#124834 - 03/07/09 12:11 PM
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This article paints a different Pic from what was hearing on the Board yesterday. Seems Jam was taking it to the US and they were counter attacking. I thought jam was just blown off the Pitch by US. Whats the real story?
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Howard Walker @ U-20 World Cup Qualifiers in Trinidad & Tobago
Saturday, March 07, 2009
BLACK ROCK, Tobago - Jamaica Under-20s suffered a setback in their World Cup aspirations, crashing 0-3 to the United States of America (USA) in their Group A CONCACAF qualifying match at the Dwight Yorke Stadium last night.
A Perica Marosevic sixth-minute strike gave the group favourites the lead before Dilaver Onka doubled the advantage in the 77th minute with Jamaica pressing for the equaliser. Substitute William Schuler killed off the game, nodding home from a corner kick in the 83rd minute.
Jamaica's Andre Campbell (right) comes under pressure from Daniel Cruz of the US during last night's Group A CONCACAF Under-20 World Cup qualifying game at the Dwight Yorke Stadium. Jamaica lost 0-3. (Photo: El Diario)
The USA jumped to the top of the standings with three points with both Honduras and El Salvador on one point after battling to a 2-2 draw in the curtain raiser.
Jamaica, who play El Salvador on Sunday, are at the bottom of the table without a point, despite dominating the match throughout, but fell to the US counter attacking style, especially in the second half.
In front a small gathering, striker Dever Orgill was up to old tricks again, stamping American defender Gale Agbossoumonde and receiving a yellow card in the second minute of play.
Four minutes later, Marosevic gave the USA the lead after latching onto a headed pass, swivelled and tucked his shot wide of the hapless Andre Blake in goal.
It wasn't the start Jamaica were looking for, but they will have to play catch-up and it hurt them in the end as they pressed and chased the game.
Jamaica responded immediately with Reneil Sappleton latching onto a Shamar Shelton pass, but kicking straight at the goalkeeper from the edge of the box. He could have done better with Orgill begging for the ball on a two-on-two situation.
The Jamaicans settled nicely and bossed the majority of the possession of the ball, but couldn't find the equaliser. Orgill, Evan Taylor, Keithy Simpson and Romario Campbell dominated, but the Americans stood firm at the back.
The half ended in favour of the Americans, but they were barely hanging on under tremendous pressure from the young Reggae Boyz.
Five minutes in the second half, coach Donovan Duckie brought on Alanzo Adlam and Davion Thorpe for the Sappleton, who looked jet-lagged and the ineffective Shamar Shelton.
In the 70th minute Adlam set up Orgill inside the box, but his shot was deflected for a corner.
Seven minutes later the US struck on the counter as Onka slotted home a right-sided cross. Schuler then made the points safe converting from a corner.
In the curtain raiser, Honduras and El Salvador battled to a 2-2 draw. Honduras led twice, as Roger Rojas gave them the lead in the 66th minute before Mark Blanco equalised in the 77th. Jose Valladares restored the advantage in the 81st, but El Salvador refused to die and Andreas Flores earned a draw in the 89th minute.
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#124836 - 03/07/09 12:44 PM
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What time does the Game kick off tomorrow?
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#124838 - 03/07/09 01:00 PM
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Any internet video or local tv stions bringing di game live???
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#124844 - 03/07/09 01:46 PM
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the way Rongen described it, it would seem like after the first goal we came at them hard until they scored the second goal on a counter attack... then we just gave up and it became a landslide
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#124846 - 03/07/09 01:53 PM
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Morefire1 how can you listen to people who were not at the game or heard live commentary.
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#124849 - 03/07/09 02:39 PM
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Morefire1 how can you listen to people who were not at the game or heard live commentary.
Carter, i man really dont have choice but read what the ites post. I guess its a case of the blind leading the blind iya
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#124850 - 03/07/09 02:41 PM
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Is this a typo or miss print taken from Jam observer:
Jamaica, who play El Salvador on Sunday, are at the bottom of the table without a point, despite dominating the match throughout, but fell to the US counter attacking style, especially in the second half.
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#124851 - 03/07/09 02:48 PM
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Rongen says that the us were up against the ropes himself for a bit, until they got the second goal... just listen to the studio 90 interview
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#124853 - 03/07/09 02:51 PM
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menamejrgong
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look at the stats... we got dominated.
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#124854 - 03/07/09 02:51 PM
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its right on the main page under the title picture... its the link that says Studio 90 has reactions and more, for the date of may 7, 2009
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#124855 - 03/07/09 03:13 PM
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both Rongen and Bully Schuler reference it... but Rongen states "I saw them play 3 times this year, I made an effort to go to Jamaica, go to St. Vincent to see them play in some prelim qualifying games I was very aware of the strength of this team, they had some skill up front some good players that have played for their senior side already like the captain... going up one nothing helped us, I thought that jamaica took over the game for awhile and threatened us on a few occasions, obviously the second goal turned the tide again in our favor."
when Billy Schuler says "they had a little play but I think we kind of controlled the game in all and then we got two more goals and put the dagger in them ..."
then Rongen again states, "as a whole we could still do a little bit better in our defensive efforts I think we needed to posses the ball a little bit more which didn't happen in the latter stages of the first half and the early stages of the second half..."
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#124873 - 03/07/09 08:14 PM
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Once again we dominated but didn't score.
US controlled the game(outcome) by not allowing us to score. If they don't score, you don't lose.
They also controlled by also getting the early goal. He as well as the Canadian coach already alluded to Jamaica's strengths - meaning:they are not going to run up and down with us all day long(but read:can't).
Appears we are incapable of breaking down a packed team defence and are susceptible to the early goal.
At the end of the day, we gave up an early goal. That is when we lost because the defence was supposed to be main strength. That is how you get into a game.
If they don't score, you don't lose.
More accurate shots suggest better execution........
We can do better!
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#124886 - 03/08/09 05:08 AM
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Young Boyz seek rebound against El Salvador
Sunday, March 08, 2009
Black Rock, Tobago - Jamaica's Under-20 footballers turn their attention to El Salvador in a crucial Group A encounter at the Dwight Yorke Stadium today at 3:00 pm local time, knowing that anything other than a win is unacceptable.
After suffering a humiliating 0-3 loss to the USA on Friday, it's now down to two matches which they have to win as they continue their quest for a spot in the FIFA World Cup set for Egypt in September.
Group favourites USA lead the table with three points while Honduras and El Salvador are on one each after playing to a 2-2 draw. Jamaica are pointless and today's game is simply a 'must win' situation.
Head coach Donovan Duckie insists the team is focused and ready for battle.
"The guys are upbeat; they know that it is a do or die situation. It's like a final, so we will have to be ready and be up to the task. The guys responded well in training. They are ready and focused," he said.
"We made some mistakes in the first game and we don't want to make them again," Duckie added. "We spoke about them (and) the guys understand exactly what is expected of them... The morale of the team is intact, the spirit is very good."
The young Boyz worked out at the Montgomery Field, approximately 10 minutes drive from the hotel, and for majority of the training session, concentrated on finishing.
There will be three changes to the starting team which lost to the USA. Left back Christopher Banner makes a welcome return from injury and will replace Andre Campbell, who will be shifted to midfield, replacing Shamar Shelton.
Davion Thorpe regains his place ahead of John Ross Doyley in midfield, while the diminutive Alanzo Adlam returns ahead of Reneil Sappleton up front.
Andre Darby will again marshall a backline including Keithy Simpson and Leaughn Williams. Evan Taylor, Thorpe, Romario Campbell and Andre Campbell will be in midfield, with the Dever Orgill teaming with striker Adlam.
In the feature encounter, the USA will play Honduras and the Jamaicans will be hoping for a US win to set up a showdown with Honduras
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#124893 - 03/08/09 06:19 AM
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Again, we are not looking at the full picture as to why we lost to the USA. We have a good team, we played well, we didn't score and we gave up three goals.
The game is not only played on the field anymore. When Thomas Rongen watched us play three times he also video taped each game. Why? So he could study each player in different situations and to determine how best to approach us and break us down. The game started long before our players hit the pitch.
I remember the Jamaican coach saying this is the best prepared team..rah rah rah, but how prepared was he when it comes to knowing Rongens team?
Until our coaches start using technology to our advantage and stop thinking that it is up to the players then we will always lose. We must start sending representatives to video tape our opponents over a period of different games, and study each player on the team and the team as a whole, only then can we give our players the advantage they need to win in the big events.
Edited by Jagga (03/08/09 06:19 AM)
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#124896 - 03/08/09 07:06 AM
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I believe the lineup changes for this match will be key. I think bringing Doyley, Shelton and Sappleton off the bench is better. Also, we will need to sub Orgill before he gets his second yellow of the tournament. Also, the engine of Thorpe and Taylor has been very successful.
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#124899 - 03/08/09 07:42 AM
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menamejrgong
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when di game start?
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#124901 - 03/08/09 07:58 AM
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jamatl
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The match starts at 5:00 PM Trinidad time, 4:00 PM Jamaica time and which as of today 5:00 PM US East Coast time.
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