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You guys are too uptight, especially the ones living in Yankee land. MLS is a crap league but hey, any league that will give you a descent pay check (which is a problem in MLS)and exposure is an option...even T&T. I am not a fan of MLS - trying to get back the 2 hours of my life I wasted last year watching the final...but that's another discussion. Comparing DPL with MLS as with comparing MLS with EPL in any fashion is just stupid.
We all understand the importance and benefit MLS will afford a player - dont think that's lost on anyone who posts here. To make comments like that to show how informed one is tells how uninformed one really is.
Good move by Ricketts going to LA, and like I said a while back, any league that will give you a paycheck should be an option --- even if its MLS, aka "bush league" ;).
As for Dane Richards -- still not sold on him and always thought Damani Ralph was crap.
Edited by jray (12/24/0809:03 AM)
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Congrats to Ricketts, he has his flaws (like commanding his penalty are and dealing with crosses) but from what i have seen as he gets older he gets much better. I hope he learns as much as he can from the training he receives in the US coaching system. Somehow they manage to produce world class keepers consistently.
This is something we should emulate we should focus on a the young and instill not only the basics but find a method of achieving optimal results with the plethora of talent at our access.
Wouldn't it be beneficial if we had a defender's program or a goal keeping program? I know it sounds rather simplistic and it has its obvious drawbacks, but if we can specialize in certain areas i believe we can aid in the development of the whole program and the players as well.
Imagine jamaica producing world class defenders on a regular basis, think of the possible positives and spin offs. I'm not saying we should focus only on certain positions but it would hurt to have specialist coaches and trainers who can groom players from they are young. In the long term this will serve to only benefit the team.
good talk fan4 a directive haffi come from JFF weh di man dem lay out the 'plan' fi develop dis ting yah
increase in rankings alone naw guh mek it
even without a 'brick and mortar academy', some kind a (football) knowledge transfer need fi a tek place
ok, so now we pick the best teams for manning and dacosta and the best of the best and call dem all schools
what happens to these youths after the allschools game gainst T&T
if dem a di best, den wi nuh shoulda a groom dem fi national duty
here is where fan4 'specialize' or 'advanced' training come een yah now
the cream dun rise to the top scrape off the cream and get them the best youth coaching available
we a guh need a U-13 and U-15 team set up sed way like the 'manning/dacosta best of the best'
jff must can give some incentive fi get 3 coach who a read from the same 'play book' fi transfer some knowledge to dem youth yah pon a weekly basis
whenever dem meet, dem fi gi di yute dem drills weh have the same 'training objectives'
only ting now is seh the level of difficulty varies with the 3 age group
when time come fi pick the 'national' team, yuh dun have a 'core' set a youth who 'overs' the philosophy weh dem dun get introduce to from U-13
if JFF naw pree dem ting yah den a time dem a waste
Have to Disagree with Distributor...dont think MLS is Far above the T&T or DPL. Its a better league yes, but the gap has Narrowed as evidenced by the 5-0 OR 5-1 Trashing JP put on NE Revs.
What hurt JP (T&T)in the Concacaf Champions league was the lack of depth and thats what really the main Difference right now bet our Local Leagues and MLS. If Harbour View is serious about making a strong run in The Champions League, they Need to make some moves when the Transfer Window opens. Give Defender J. Taylor some more Money and resign him to shore up the Backline. If Teofore Benett is Available Sign him too. With the Brazilian Coach in charge they should make serious run in the next Concacaf Champions League.
lionpaw mi know mi and u dont see eye to eye when comes J. taylor.
those games against joe public wud have been alot different if the revs team was not so fatigued... i know the usl teams managed to overcome fatigue, but even then wud joe public have beaten those usl teams
new england has some depth but its still not nearly enough to take them all the way in the champions league superliga and mls open cup while keeping good position in the mls league standings
those games against joe public wud have been alot different if the revs team was not so fatigued... i know the usl teams managed to overcome fatigue, but even then wud joe public have beaten those usl teams
new england has some depth but its still not nearly enough to take them all the way in the champions league superliga and mls open cup while keeping good position in the mls league standings
Doesn't the T&T League start their Season before MLS. I could be wrong. Either way.. Still not buying that argument that MLS is miles ahead of the DPL OR T&T Pro League. Confidence is the Key..
Have to Disagree with Distributor...dont think MLS is Far above the T&T or DPL. Its a better league yes, but the gap has Narrowed as evidenced by the 5-0 OR 5-1 Trashing JP put on NE Revs.
that trashing came w/o matt reis, taylor twellman, michael parkhurst, steve ralston, khano smith, and chris albright. Additionally, the revs were in the middle of a stretch that was ridiculously strenuous, playing MLS games, CCL games, USOC games, and Superliga games. The CCL was their last priority, whereas it was JP's only additional priority. The MLS is FAR, FAR better than TT Pro League and millions of miles ahead of the DPL.
Have to Disagree with Distributor...dont think MLS is Far above the T&T or DPL. Its a better league yes, but the gap has Narrowed as evidenced by the 5-0 OR 5-1 Trashing JP put on NE Revs.
that trashing came w/o matt reis, taylor twellman, michael parkhurst, steve ralston, khano smith, and chris albright. Additionally, the revs were in the middle of a stretch that was ridiculously strenuous, playing MLS games, CCL games, USOC games, and Superliga games. The CCL was their last priority, whereas it was JP's only additional priority. The MLS is FAR, FAR better than TT Pro League and millions of miles ahead of the DPL.
My Yute, All the Above mentioned players that you say were missing are Ordinary..nutten special about any a dem.
Please stay far away as possible from Jamaican program. dont want you inferiorty complex disease to spread.... Done chat!
Have to Disagree with Distributor...dont think MLS is Far above the T&T or DPL. Its a better league yes, but the gap has Narrowed as evidenced by the 5-0 OR 5-1 Trashing JP put on NE Revs.
that trashing came w/o matt reis, taylor twellman, michael parkhurst, steve ralston, khano smith, and chris albright. Additionally, the revs were in the middle of a stretch that was ridiculously strenuous, playing MLS games, CCL games, USOC games, and Superliga games. The CCL was their last priority, whereas it was JP's only additional priority. The MLS is FAR, FAR better than TT Pro League and millions of miles ahead of the DPL.
My Yute, All the Above mentioned players that you say were missing are Ordinary..nutten special about any a dem.
Please stay far away as possible from Jamaican program. dont want you inferiorty complex disease to spread.... Done chat!
Those players are the best players on their team, clearly it makes a difference if they play or not. When healthy, Twellman is one of the best players in the league. Many English teams, most notably Fulham, Everton, and Preston North End, have tried hard to pick him up in the past only to be rejected by the MLS. Michael Parkhurst is going to be a fixture on the U.S. national team and just got signed by FC Nordsjælland in Denmark. Steve Ralston and Chris Albright are both part of the U.S. national team pool and Khano Smith just got picked up in the expansion draft by Seattle. These are all very good players. To address your second point. I love Jamaican football. But the DPL and TT pro league simply aren't as good as the MLS. If we help develop them they maybe can be, but right now they aren't.
Have to Disagree with Distributor...dont think MLS is Far above the T&T or DPL. Its a better league yes, but the gap has Narrowed as evidenced by the 5-0 OR 5-1 Trashing JP put on NE Revs.
that trashing came w/o matt reis, taylor twellman, michael parkhurst, steve ralston, khano smith, and chris albright. Additionally, the revs were in the middle of a stretch that was ridiculously strenuous, playing MLS games, CCL games, USOC games, and Superliga games. The CCL was their last priority, whereas it was JP's only additional priority. The MLS is FAR, FAR better than TT Pro League and millions of miles ahead of the DPL.
My Yute, All the Above mentioned players that you say were missing are Ordinary..nutten special about any a dem.
Please stay far away as possible from Jamaican program. dont want you inferiorty complex disease to spread.... Done chat!
Those players are the best players on their team, clearly it makes a difference if they play or not. When healthy, Twellman is one of the best players in the league. Many English teams, most notably Fulham, Everton, and Preston North End, have tried hard to pick him up in the past only to be rejected by the MLS. Michael Parkhurst is going to be a fixture on the U.S. national team and just got signed by FC Nordsjælland in Denmark. Steve Ralston and Chris Albright are both part of the U.S. national team pool and Khano Smith just got picked up in the expansion draft by Seattle. These are all very good players. To address your second point. I love Jamaican football. But the DPL and TT pro league simply aren't as good as the MLS. If we help develop them they maybe can be, but right now they aren't.
Fair enough.. No hard feelings....We just see things Differently.
'gong, you are just showing knowledge, which pisses off some on the site. I know that there will always be sensitivity on the site where U.S. soccer is concerned, and I am not necessarily a fan of the American team, but we must be objective. These players that you mentioned are major American players, especially Twellman. The others are all in the "picture", and acknowledging them is not about feeling inferior; it is about knowing your facts. Whether Jamaicans like it or not, Europeans scouts are all over the MLS looking for American talent, and most countries would be hard pressed to match the number of players they have who have moved to Euro leagues.
where wud all of you that say mls isn't that great place the dpl and tt pro league in terms of concacaf leagues
mexican teams are arguaby the best league based on performances mls teams can compete and regularly beat mexican league teams top dpl wud sit mid table mls tt pro league are alright but i cudnt picture joe public beating harbour view csl canadian soccer leagues are a joke and may be the worst league in the region
Good to see Ricketts get a place on Arena´s club and the respect of one of the region´s most successful International coaches. As for comparing MLS with other leagues in the region, give props where they are due if only we could get 17 year olds getting signed to big clubs like they can. We are a long way from that. Also, to say JP´s dominance over DC in 2 matches is a reflection of the overall quality of the league is nowhere near a fair comparison. I´m curious as to what comparisons you will draw from Man U´s narrow win over LDU Quito....is Ecuador´s league on par with England's? You could take a bunch of Champions League results that could tell you Denmark´s league is on par with England´s or that Turkey´s league is better than Spain´s.
not exactly because that wud be like saying chicago fire although good wud be top 4 in the epl after beating everton... but u can tell alot about the league by the top teams in it
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Originally Posted By: morefire1
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Have to Disagree with Distributor...dont think MLS is Far above the T&T or DPL. Its a better league yes, but the gap has Narrowed as evidenced by the 5-0 OR 5-1 Trashing JP put on NE Revs.
that trashing came w/o matt reis, taylor twellman, michael parkhurst, steve ralston, khano smith, and chris albright. Additionally, the revs were in the middle of a stretch that was ridiculously strenuous, playing MLS games, CCL games, USOC games, and Superliga games. The CCL was their last priority, whereas it was JP's only additional priority. The MLS is FAR, FAR better than TT Pro League and millions of miles ahead of the DPL.
My Yute, All the Above mentioned players that you say were missing are Ordinary..nutten special about any a dem.
Please stay far away as possible from Jamaican program. dont want you inferiorty complex disease to spread.... Done chat!
Those players are the best players on their team, clearly it makes a difference if they play or not. When healthy, Twellman is one of the best players in the league. Many English teams, most notably Fulham, Everton, and Preston North End, have tried hard to pick him up in the past only to be rejected by the MLS. Michael Parkhurst is going to be a fixture on the U.S. national team and just got signed by FC Nordsjælland in Denmark. Steve Ralston and Chris Albright are both part of the U.S. national team pool and Khano Smith just got picked up in the expansion draft by Seattle. These are all very good players. To address your second point. I love Jamaican football. But the DPL and TT pro league simply aren't as good as the MLS. If we help develop them they maybe can be, but right now they aren't.
This waste of space and the other shyte players you named build on the perception that MLS=Bush League...
Until the grown ups (on this board is there such a person) come back, I am outta here....the lack of football knowledge from the hurry come ups is f'ing scary
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BY KAYON RAYNOR Senior staff reporter raynork@jamaicaobserver.com Thursday, December 25, 2008
JAMAICA'S first-choice goalkeeper Donovan Ricketts will be celebrating Christmas in style after securing a contract with Major League Soccer (MLS) team, LA Galaxy, Wednesday.
"I'm feeling good because that is what I've really been working for," Ricketts told the Observer about his move to LA Galaxy, which comes approximately nine-months after his contract with English League Two side, Bradford City, ended in March.
"It just shows that hard work pays off. There was no doubt in my mind that I would've gotten something else, so it's just a matter of getting a well-deserved break after four years in England," added the goalkeeper who stands a towering six-feet-four-inches.
Ricketts played more than 100 games for Bradford City between 2005 and this year before returning to local Premier League outfit Village United.
Pending receipt of his visa and international transfer clearance, the 31-year-old will be added to the MLS team's roster, which presently owns the rights of former England captain David Beckham and once owned Ricketts' national teammate Tyrone Marshall.
Meanwhile, general manager and head coach of the LA Galaxy, Bruce Arena, believes Ricketts will bolster his team's defensive unit. "I have known Donovan for a number of years as a goalkeeper with the Jamaican national team and have always been impressed with his physical qualities.
"After a closer examination of the player, I am absolutely amazed with his abilities both on and off the field," Arena said. "It is also a position that we felt the need to improve and believe that he will be a great addition to our team and has the potential to be one of the best goalkeepers in MLS," added Arena, who joined Galaxy after leaving his post as head coach of the United States national team.
Ricketts is fully aware of the gravity of the job that awaits him at Galaxy, with the knowledge that his predecessor, Steve Cronin, gave up a league-topping 44 goals last season.
"Getting the contract is just the first part of it. I'm going there to work hard and... prove that Jamaica can produce good goalkeepers as well, so the sky is the limit," he said.
"They (MLS teams) are known to produce quality goalkeepers, so I just want to go and work with a good goalkeeper coach and see where I can improve," he added.
Terms of his contract were not disclosed by Galaxy, but it is believed that the deal will run for an initial period of two years.
Ricketts has been playing at the international level for more than 10 years, having been Jamaica's third choice goalkeeper at the France 1998 World Cup Finals. The former Jamaican captain has been the unchallenged number one goalkeeper for the Reggae Boyz for the better part of the last five years, including appearances in all of the Reggae Boyz's matches during their recent qualifying campaign for the 2010 World Cup.
Despite recording three consecutive shutouts at the end of that campaign - against Mexico, Honduras and Canada - the Reggae Boyz narrowly missed out on advancing to the final stages of the 2010 CONCACAF World Cup Qualifiers, losing out to Mexico on goal difference.
Earlier this month, he helped lead Jamaica to the 2008 Digicel Caribbean Championships where they defeated Grenada 2-0 in the final.
Have to Disagree with Distributor...dont think MLS is Far above the T&T or DPL. Its a better league yes, but the gap has Narrowed as evidenced by the 5-0 OR 5-1 Trashing JP put on NE Revs.
that trashing came w/o matt reis, taylor twellman, michael parkhurst, steve ralston, khano smith, and chris albright. Additionally, the revs were in the middle of a stretch that was ridiculously strenuous, playing MLS games, CCL games, USOC games, and Superliga games. The CCL was their last priority, whereas it was JP's only additional priority. The MLS is FAR, FAR better than TT Pro League and millions of miles ahead of the DPL.
My Yute, All the Above mentioned players that you say were missing are Ordinary..nutten special about any a dem.
Please stay far away as possible from Jamaican program. dont want you inferiorty complex disease to spread.... Done chat!
Those players are the best players on their team, clearly it makes a difference if they play or not. When healthy, Twellman is one of the best players in the league. Many English teams, most notably Fulham, Everton, and Preston North End, have tried hard to pick him up in the past only to be rejected by the MLS. Michael Parkhurst is going to be a fixture on the U.S. national team and just got signed by FC Nordsjælland in Denmark. Steve Ralston and Chris Albright are both part of the U.S. national team pool and Khano Smith just got picked up in the expansion draft by Seattle. These are all very good players. To address your second point. I love Jamaican football. But the DPL and TT pro league simply aren't as good as the MLS. If we help develop them they maybe can be, but right now they aren't.
This waste of space and the other shyte players you named build on the perception that MLS=Bush League...
Until the grown ups (on this board is there such a person) come back, I am outta here....the lack of football knowledge from the hurry come ups is f'ing scary
You don't think Twellman is one of the best players in the MLS when healthy? Look at his strike record. 99 goals in 171 games played. He's 28 years old and 5th all time in goal-scoring in the MLS. As I said earlier, since he was 23 or 24, English teams have been trying to get him consistently. You're the one showing a lack of football knowledge. If you seriously think the DPL and TT Pro League are nearly as good as the MLS, you haven't been watching. And I am a grown up, I'm 21 years old, legally allowed to do everything in the U.S. except rent a car.
Our Olympic success has shed additional spotlight on our athletes. Bruce Arena is a very experience and calculating coach who is very familiar with most of our senior players. To this end, it bodes well for Ricketts and the country as a whole. The experience he gained while in the English set up will transfer well in the USA and the they are known to produce some top flight keepers.
I'm perplex that some ites have nothing but negative things to say about the signing; but then again we're Jamaicans.
Congrats to Ricketts, he has his flaws (like commanding his penalty are and dealing with crosses) but from what i have seen as he gets older he gets much better. I hope he learns as much as he can from the training he receives in the US coaching system. Somehow they manage to produce world class keepers consistently.
This is something we should emulate we should focus on a the young and instill not only the basics but find a method of achieving optimal results with the plethora of talent at our access.
Wouldn't it be beneficial if we had a defender's program or a goal keeping program? I know it sounds rather simplistic and it has its obvious drawbacks, but if we can specialize in certain areas i believe we can aid in the development of the whole program and the players as well.
Imagine jamaica producing world class defenders on a regular basis, think of the possible positives and spin offs. I'm not saying we should focus only on certain positions but it would hurt to have specialist coaches and trainers who can groom players from they are young. In the long term this will serve to only benefit the team.
good talk fan4 a directive haffi come from JFF weh di man dem lay out the 'plan' fi develop dis ting yah
increase in rankings alone naw guh mek it
even without a 'brick and mortar academy', some kind a (football) knowledge transfer need fi a tek place
ok, so now we pick the best teams for manning and dacosta and the best of the best and call dem all schools
what happens to these youths after the allschools game gainst T&T
if dem a di best, den wi nuh shoulda a groom dem fi national duty
here is where fan4 'specialize' or 'advanced' training come een yah now
the cream dun rise to the top scrape off the cream and get them the best youth coaching available
we a guh need a U-13 and U-15 team set up sed way like the 'manning/dacosta best of the best'
jff must can give some incentive fi get 3 coach who a read from the same 'play book' fi transfer some knowledge to dem youth yah pon a weekly basis
whenever dem meet, dem fi gi di yute dem drills weh have the same 'training objectives'
only ting now is seh the level of difficulty varies with the 3 age group
when time come fi pick the 'national' team, yuh dun have a 'core' set a youth who 'overs' the philosophy weh dem dun get introduce to from U-13
if JFF naw pree dem ting yah den a time dem a waste
btw, congrats to ricketts
Straight Talk HL, we have consistently produced talented youth players but they get lost along the way and even when they do get an opportunity abroad some of them find it very hard to land the first opportunity because they often lack some basic things that foreign coaches look for.
We need to work on the basics, the tactical and technical side of our game and instill it in the younger generation, ball skills, control, dribbling and speed are all great qualities but mean nothing without good off the ball movements, man marking, vision, tactical prowess and team work,
If we produce good quality young defenders for instance and within the next four years we have 10-15 players playing in top euro leagues that must do well for out senior team. Atleast we wont be letting in alot of goals against US or Mex.
Or we can focus on midfield or Gk wherever we just need to look at the next generation and provide them with the tools to make them competitive.
