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#11311 - 04/13/02 03:02 PM
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cat_dup1
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Went to witness for myself the genius of 'The honourable Mr. Lowe'. Rushden lost 2-0 to Kidderminster, and deservedly so but are still likely to make the Div. 3 play-offs.
Rushden were awful, the game in general was awful and Onandi Lowe was even worse again.
He was given man-of-the-match but God only knows why! (HL, don't know if you were there but in a FA Cup match at Bradford in '96, Sasa Curcic played the game of his life and we won 4-1 or something and they gave motm to Wayne Jacobs, it was like that!!).
Man-of-the-match, for falling over, trying to beat too many men with quite obvoiusly too little talent and making himself look ridiculous with worst attempted shot i've ever seen from 6 yards out. I hope this was just a really bad day for him, because if that's how he performs for Jamaica it's no wonder you didn't qualify for the World Cup!
I know it must have been a bad day, the whole team really didn't perform and he's done well to score as many as he has, but the fans i spoke to weren't massively impressed (kind of like Bolton were with Ricketts last year in a 'could try harder' kind of a way). He did though receive the local newspaper's player of the month award on the pitch before the game.
I know some of you will agree and some of you won't, and i am judging him on one game, on a bad day for the whole team, but from some of the comments i've read, i honestly don't believe he's made a mistake starting his career in England at this level.
Cat >^..^<
Disclaimer: My views are to be taken with this in mind;
I have not watched 3rd division football for about 3 years ie. i'd forgotton how bad it actually was!
I've seen a couple of bottom of the table 2nd division games and expected it to be of similar standard - it wasn't (Bury for the Div. 3 chamionship next season assuming they're still with us!).
I normally watch Premiership football and i thought Bolton struggled to string a few passes together!
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#11313 - 04/13/02 05:30 PM
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Hey, you were at the game and if that's your honest views then we would not have it any other way. Bigman (Nandi) everyone entitled to a bad day. Keep yuh head up and continue to run de place.
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#11314 - 04/13/02 05:53 PM
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Cat stop being such a Hater. FYI Lowe is a more talented player than Gardner and Johnson so if they can play in the EPL so can he. Dont even mention Ricketts who he is also better than. You obviously don't know much about football.
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#11316 - 04/13/02 06:45 PM
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Just one of them bad game for the Honourable One. Actually, the whole team was crappy. No service for the Honourable One from the Diamonds' midfielders. They will shake it off thought.
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#11317 - 04/13/02 06:46 PM
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Thank you Cat,it was your honest opinion and i believe every word of it.
Don't mind Yardman, he's just in transition....from waggonist to wanabee..
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#11318 - 04/13/02 06:52 PM
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Yardman need fi calm down. Cat ignore him as he definately is the man who knows little. most obsurd thing I have read thus far. Lowe is a goalscorer but Bibi and Johnson out of his league in more than one way. Them a bigger baller fi him.
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#11319 - 04/13/02 07:11 PM
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U notice the trend... Whenever Lowe has a bad game, its bcoz he gets no service from the midfield...
Maybe him naw get no service bcoz the midfield cant cope...so go back and help.. thats why its a team sport... Maybe dropping back wouldn't give him a goal but it possibly could help in stopping the opposition from scoring...
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#11320 - 04/13/02 09:57 PM
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I am not sure I get this. Di man supposedly had a bad day yet he was named "Man of the match". Sounds like the people who called the game saw it differently than >^..^
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#11321 - 04/14/02 02:43 AM
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A bad day?? Give me a break!! This is the typical Lowe we have been bickering about all along. This is a perfect description of the "dishonourable one". This is his game...day in...day out...no changes...no improvement...just stagnant.
"Man-of-the-match, for falling over, trying to beat too many men with quite obvoiusly too little talent and making himself look ridiculous with worst attempted shot i've ever seen from 6 yards out. I hope this was just a really bad day for him, because if that's how he performs for Jamaica it's no wonder you didn't qualify for the World Cup!"
My hats off to you Cat! You could not have summed it up better. I can still see people living in the dungeon searching for a flashlight.
My God! When will we learn to give up?
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#11322 - 04/14/02 09:43 AM
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Mountain, I am simply wondering why he was named "Man of the match" by those that called the game. They cleary saw it differently.
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#11323 - 04/14/02 10:04 AM
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Cat...much respect to you.
This is how I like to hear a big man talk. Speak the TRUTH. Speak as you see it without bias or water comming out of both corners of your mouth.
I told you all that this man is nothing but MEDIOCRE, here today and gone tomorrow. Did I not told you all not to start getting emotionally worked up ? I ask the question again. What is new about Lowe ? NOTHING.
Please stop fooling yourselves gentlemen. Anyone that compares Lowe with Ricardo "Bibi" Gardener, SURELY NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR HEAD EXAMINED.
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#11324 - 04/14/02 10:19 AM
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But even if the man is "here tody and gone tomorrow" at least he was here. Can't say the same for many of our other players.
Everyone biggin' up cat for the report; I am too. I just asking one question, why was he named man of the match? that's all.
[This message has been edited by ddread (edited 04-14-2002).]
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#11325 - 04/14/02 12:11 PM
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The man-of-the-match award is given by the match-sponsers for the day. It has to be a home player, even when there were quite blatently better performances from away players.
The company my Dad worked for when i was younger occasionally sponsered Bolton games and a motm would have to be picked - at aged 9 i was picking this award, i'd watched lots of football but would just pick my favourite player, not necessarily the one who'd played well that day.
It's quite possible the sponsers picking this award hadn't watched Diamonds before and were picking a player they knew of. There were many ironic cheers from the Rushden regulars around when it was announced! The Kidderminster fans had also picked him out for special attention, cheering whenever he touched the ball - it usually benefitted them more.
Forgot to mention Paul Hall also played yesterday and was one of the Rushden players who looked reasonably good, he's lost some of his pace but is still very skillful and set up a couple of chances.
Yardman! Many of the other regulars on the list have either questioned or defended my judgement but you are seriously deluded!! Granted i have only see the man Lowe play once, but i'd hazard a guess that Bibi has more talent in his little toe than Lowe has in his entire body. But hey, everyone's entitled to their own opinion!
'FYI', Rushden was my 46th game of the season, with at least 1 match from all English pro-leagues, competitions and even an international game, i've seen a lot of football and very little to rival Lowe's incompetant performance - but maybe i was expecting too much.
Cat >^..^<
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#11326 - 04/14/02 12:33 PM
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Oh. See. Where I come from man of the match is only given to the player who performed the best but apparently not so over there.
Can't say much about Lowe's performance at that game. I was not there but I am sure it was horrible.
If bibi has more talent in his little toe than Lowe has in his entire body then Bibi must have a real talented little toe. Too bad he was not able to show us during quals, we might have qualified. Imagine, Onandi Lowe and Bibi's little toe. Who could stop us?
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#11327 - 04/14/02 01:30 PM
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Ddread, the reason why I welcomed Cat's views and perspective of Lowe's performance is because she is more of a neutral player on the Lowe issue. Maybe since most of us are too emotional on the issue, we should welcome more independent views.
Therefore, I am calling on Herb-Luva, Cat, Boltonbilly, Jack Hullcity and other non-Jamaicans to visit some of these Rushden & Diamond games and give us your TRUE and unbiased perspective on Lowe's performances. Bear in mind that the goals may be there; however, we are looking at his overall performance at this level.
P.S - Don't worry about the cost, just send the bill to Ddread & P'Dart. heh...heh
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#11328 - 04/14/02 03:22 PM
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I am wondering if Bibi and JJ think Onandi is a good player 
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#11329 - 04/14/02 03:33 PM
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BigMount, I welcome the views too. But the debate is not really whether or not Lowe will master the English leagues. It is simply about dispelling the absurd claim and Lowe blows that Nandi is the reason we did not qualify.
I hear JahB even blaming Lowe for us losing to El Salvador. The reason he gave was that Lowe got a red card in the previous game and was not able to play; that cost us the game. If you can claim that "Lowe not playing cost us games" then we are saying the same thing. We have no team without Lowe.
The other one that is in question is the notion that you can't come from D3 to the EPL. Bolton draft JJ from CravenA to EPL. I think the CravenA league is a few knotches below D3 but what do I know.
[This message has been edited by ddread (edited 04-14-2002).]
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#11330 - 04/14/02 04:43 PM
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I was going to stay out of this thing till man an man start call up mi name.
DDread, how comes when the topic relates to Lowe yuh see thing only one way?
Here is one of your arguments:
If we played the teams we played in second round without them having the benefit of knowing that we only had a single threat in Nandi we would have qualified on Lowe's back. We walked through the first round on the back of Onandi Lowe. Up until that point I think we had won no more than 3 games in almost 3 years. Nandi went up front and we could not lose.
So based on your argument, with Nandi in the game we stood a much better chance to win. Is it therefore consistent with your theory that if Nandi had kept his cool in the Honduras game, we would more than likely have won the next game gainst El salvador.
So how come yuh waan condemn mi because of my statement. Yes we had no team without Lowe because the coach foolishly set it up that way. That has been our argument the whole time. Drop Lowe and develop a team that was less dependent on one player, a player who was petulant and who hurt the morale of the team.
Big Mountain, it is almost hopeless to get man an man round here to see that being able to "Bruk and Shif", (to borrow one of Dart's terms), is the least of what makes one a complete player. I will say again that I wish Nandi the best and hope that he will evolve into a complete player so that he can do the best for his family and his country.
Peace
[This message has been edited by Jah B (edited 04-14-2002).]
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